Lalapolooza In Chicago - A Super Spreader?.....

[global1]

Have we not learned anything over the last year since this pandemic started?

Come-on people - we weren't born yesterday.

They say they are taking all these precautions in Chicago to protect the crowd.

Yes there will be the majority of the attendees doing what they should to protect themselves and others - BUT - we know that there will also be a substantial percentage of those attendees that will cheat the system.

Fake proof of vaccination cards are available in the Chicago Area. You can bet there will be a number of attendees that will be using those.

Also - the planners have no control as to what people do once they make it into the venue. A portion of those that walked into the venue with masks - will take them off once they are inside. There is no way for them to police the use of masks.

Holding this event - knowing what we know as to what is going on around the country with the spread of this 'delta variant' is just irresponsible.

I like Mayor Lightfoot - but she made a mistake by not cancelling or postponing this event.

This is all about money and greed. The planners of this event will say anything and risk anything to make sure that they maximize their profit.

I'm really surprised that many of the entertainers scheduled to appear at this event haven't cancelled their appearances.

This is an accident waiting to happen. I'm just amazed that we haven't learned anything over this last year about how this pandemic works.

Watch in the weeks to come - the cases, hospitalizations and deaths go up in the Chicago Area. It is so predictable.

Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda!!!

[PortTack]

1. They ar requiring vaccine passports to enter

[global1]

2. Fake Passports Are Rampant And Available In The Chicago Area....

Just like fake ID"s to get into a bar.

Again - it's going to be a portion of bad actors that are going to spoil it for others.

People are always looking for ways around the system.

Time will tell.

Let's see how Chicago does a couple of weeks after this event.

[former9thward]

3. Vaccine passports from who?

[global1]

11. Those Are The Cards They Give You When You Get Vaccinated.....

I've read where stacks of them have been stolen and are being sold out there.

All a person has to do is write in some numbers, dates and names on these blank cards and they have a pretty good representation of an authentic one.

One of the TV stations in town has flagged the fact that they are available - and a person using or selling can get fined or jailed.

Here's a google link for more info:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fake+vaccine+cards%2C+penalties+for+use&source=hp&ei=DdECYYaTK9_Q0PEP69OW0As&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYQLfHT8pSNNDvk5D0EnD7u4AbCJFjsyK&oq=fake+vaccine+cards%2C+penalties+for+use&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQghEKABOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToFCAAQgAQ6DgguEIAEELEDEMcBEKMCOhEILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARCjAjoICAAQgAQQsQM6CwguEIAEEMcBEKMCOggILhCABBCxAzoFCAAQsQM6DggAEIAEELEDEIMBEMcDOgcIABDHAxANOggIIRAWEB0QHjoHCCEQChCgAToFCCEQqwJQkQRYhWxgwHhoA3AAeACAAWqIAfESkgEEMzguMpgBAKABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwjGzZ3T04jyAhVfKDQIHeupBboQ4dUDCAk&uact=5

Now when you have 100,000 people converging on an event venue - how are they going to monitor the illegal use of these fake cards.

[former9thward]

13. The cards are so simple and black and white that anyone can fake them,

Word processing software and a xerox machine and you are in business.

[hurple]

4. Just a few things to point out...

1. Lollapalooza is outdoors, is it not? That will help. A bit.
2. Bands will not cancel because they have been a year and a half without their biggest source of income, playing live. Believe it or not a band can show up, stay in their bus, or dressing rooms, and have minimal, or no, contact with anyone at the venue who is not part of their bubble already. The bands are actually, likely, the safest people there. And most will leave it to the public whether they want to risk their health to see the show.

Otherwise, you are correct.

[greenjar_01]

20. OP didn't mention the other huge festival going on in Chicago this weekend, Fiesta del Sol

in Pilsen.

[greenjar_01]

5. It'll be fine

I'm going to Pitchfork in September, can't wait.

[Phoenix61]

7. If by fine you mean a super spreader event

on par with Sturgis I completely agree.

[Calculating]

6. It's time to start getting back to normal

People need to get vaccinated or suffer the consequences, this is almost a darwinism thing at this point. Open everything and stop protecting the vaccine holdouts.

[Phoenix61]

8. And the people who can't get vaccinated?

They are stuck in quarantine forever?

[Calculating]

9. Idk

Should society mask and social distance forever? Covid is literally never going away, it's gonna be one of the endemic cold viruses in the future.

[Phoenix61]

14. Source for the never going away theory please. nt

[Calculating]

18. common sense

How do we ever completely get rid of COVID? Even if we come out with a new Delta variant vaccine tomorrow we'll still have 1/3 of the country not taking it and they'll breed new variants.

[Phoenix61]

19. Eventually every employer will require it

as will lots of private businesses. There will be some hold outs but not enough to be a problem. The same way there are some who aren’t vaccinated against polio but we don’t have outbreaks of it here.

[Ace Rothstein]

12. I agree but just wish kids had the option to get vaccinated before we open.

[spanone]

10. money over everything

[ProfessorGAC]

15. My Wife Shares Your Opinion

She just said an hour ago that she thinks there'll be a spike following the festival.
I had forgotten about it, so never considered the risk until my wife mentioned it.
Now, I see your post too.

[IcyPeas]

16. people are just fed up. I understand that. I hope they will all make funky fancy facemasks to

wear with their festival outfits.

I'm well past outdoor concert festival age. I can't imagine being a young person living through this pandemic. I understand their desire to go out and have fun and hear music.

I will just continue to wear a mask for many more months.

[Sympthsical]

17. I would stand way in the back

Grant/Millennium Parks are pretty big. I've been to Lollapalooza several times back in the day. You don't have to smoosh in to enjoy the music. There's plenty of space on the periphery.

Now when Obama won in Grant Park in 2008. That was smooshing crowd only. Also great fun. Especially after. Downtown streets were packed in every direction. I stood on a statue and took pictures. I'll have to dig them out someday.

[greenjar_01]

21. These crowds will be functionally equivalent to BLM protest crowds last summer

Outdoors, many masked, largely in the same age groups. The two main differences will be 1) that large numbers will also be vaccinated, and 2) that Delta is somewhat more easily transmitted.