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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:38 AM Jul 2021

I fear the last 4 years have corrupted the House and Senate and politics in general.

Politicians have seen that there are no consequences to lying and stealing. Why should they not get in the game?

I believe this may affect Democrats and Republicans alike. Our entire political system may have been corrupted?

They will all begin to look for the quick buck. They will challenge the laws, knowing that they can deny and lie and probably escape any punishment.

I was reading about 3 GOP members yesterday that had failed to report on some sort of stock transactions. It did not seem like a big deal to them evidently?

I fear these types of deals with our elected officials may become commonplace. Not that we haven't had corruption in the past, but there now seems to be a license to steal and to break the laws without hesitancy.

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I fear the last 4 years have corrupted the House and Senate and politics in general. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2021 OP
Yes, and it's quickly spreading around the world Walleye Jul 2021 #1
Corruption in government has always happened for many many years. Claustrum Jul 2021 #5
Yes we have always thought if we just expose the corruption they will be stopped. Walleye Jul 2021 #25
I think the Dubya years laid the foundation, planted the seeds NewHendoLib Jul 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #9
I always felt during the W years like we were being tested, to see how much they could get away with Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #21
Much longer than four years. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #3
I think that it happen years before that. At least on the GOP side it is an oligarchy. CentralMass Jul 2021 #4
TFG games everything through the courts. Sue and stall tactics. spanone Jul 2021 #6
This is what happens when you "look forward, not back." Dustlawyer Jul 2021 #7
+1 leftstreet Jul 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #12
The fact that the wealthy and powerful are above the law is a symptom of the control the Dustlawyer Jul 2021 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #17
Probably more like 40 years. evolves Jul 2021 #10
The true start date for the decline was Jerry2144 Jul 2021 #11
Bothsiderism is not valid. We see all Reptilians doing it; very little on our side. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #13
THIS. TY. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2021 #15
I agree with you, if you are going to make sweeping statements like that Bev54 Jul 2021 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Bev54 Jul 2021 #22
I believe this actually goes all the way back to Ronnie Raygun. Now, some will say ... Brother Mythos Jul 2021 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #18
Yes, supply-side economics, Reaganomics, Trickle-down economics, whatever you want to call ... Brother Mythos Jul 2021 #24
More like the last 40 years Dave says Jul 2021 #19
August 5th 1981-The Day the Music Died flotsam2 Jul 2021 #26
There's no both sides to it. Elessar Zappa Jul 2021 #23
Sorry, I view this post as a ' they all suck' Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #27

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
5. Corruption in government has always happened for many many years.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jul 2021

They are just not even hiding it at this point. Trump made doing everything bad in the open cool/ok.

I was watching the news the other day and they did a news segment on PPP fraud. And they interviewed some people for comments. I cringed hard when I heard one person claiming they don't trust the federal government because of situations like that. But republicans were the ones reasonable for the loopholes in the PPP program. Democrats did everything to fight for more transparency and check on the PPP loans and the republicans were the ones rejecting any of the oversight on the loans.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
4. I think that it happen years before that. At least on the GOP side it is an oligarchy.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:45 AM
Jul 2021

There are clearly very wealthy power broker buying politicians and calling all the shots. McConnel is their tool and Lindsey Graham is their butt sniffer.

spanone

(135,827 posts)
6. TFG games everything through the courts. Sue and stall tactics.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:47 AM
Jul 2021

He knew there were no real consequences to nixon, bu$h 1, reagan or bu$h 2

He took it all to another level and the con party followed him without question.




Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
7. This is what happens when you "look forward, not back."
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:48 AM
Jul 2021

No Wall Streeters went to prison, or were even indicted, for the 2008 crash. Corporations pay fines but the decision makers not even investigated. No war crimes, no perjury, nothing. Powerful people in this country are above the law and they know it.

Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #7)

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
16. The fact that the wealthy and powerful are above the law is a symptom of the control the
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:01 PM
Jul 2021

Big Donors and corporations have over our politics and media. The donations control government and their advertising dollars control the media. Nothing will appreciably change until we address these two root causes of most of our problems.

Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #16)

Jerry2144

(2,099 posts)
11. The true start date for the decline was
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jul 2021

October 7, 1996 when truth died in TV News or 1988 when Noxious Gas Bag (may he continue to rot in hell) went national on the radio. This was when things started to go really bad.

Bev54

(10,048 posts)
20. I agree with you, if you are going to make sweeping statements like that
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:37 PM
Jul 2021

back it up with proof. Are there isolated cases, for sure. The republicans on the other hand only have isolated cases of integrity.

Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #13)

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
14. I believe this actually goes all the way back to Ronnie Raygun. Now, some will say ...
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:00 PM
Jul 2021

it goes all the way back to Nixon. But, the Republicans of Nixon's era forced him to resign from office because of Watergate.

Ronnie Raygun, however, lied and lied and lied, and oversaw scandal after scandal, including Iran–Contra, but the Republicans of his era idolized him. And, Republicans today still do.

Response to Brother Mythos (Reply #14)

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
24. Yes, supply-side economics, Reaganomics, Trickle-down economics, whatever you want to call ...
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:41 PM
Jul 2021

that particular grift, is still giving Republicans, and their plutocrat funders, multiple orgasms to this very day.

Not a single Nobel Prize winning economist of the RayGun era would give that grift any credibility, but it made no difference.

Dave says

(4,616 posts)
19. More like the last 40 years
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:09 PM
Jul 2021

The Reagan presidency was the beginning of the end of the widely shared American Dream. So much changed, then, that was/is negative for main street America. Now, if you were/are part of the 1%, it's been one continuous party since.

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
23. There's no both sides to it.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:40 PM
Jul 2021

It’s solely the Republican side of the aisle that has corrupted politics.

Demsrule86

(68,553 posts)
27. Sorry, I view this post as a ' they all suck'
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 02:32 PM
Jul 2021

Post. And I do not agree… why would you bash our party like this?

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