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Someone needs to explain socialism to Stefanik (Original Post) Nevilledog Jul 2021 OP
Logic is not her strong suit. zuul Jul 2021 #1
As a Libertarian Taker, she's just trying to out stupid Greene & Boebert to capture attention. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #22
It's not that they don't know what socialism is. Claustrum Jul 2021 #2
If stupid were fire... House of Roberts Jul 2021 #3
Plan G is medigap. Claire Oh Nette Jul 2021 #17
That's my problem. House of Roberts Jul 2021 #20
WHat's best for her may not be best for you. Claire Oh Nette Jul 2021 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2021 #4
My God. How does this happen? She's grown and hasn't... brush Jul 2021 #5
She's a conservative. They have their own bonkers dialect. JHB Jul 2021 #8
Republicanese DFW Jul 2021 #9
Conservativedumbassese JHB Jul 2021 #10
Calvinball-Yeah! What you said! N/T flotsam2 Jul 2021 #19
Box of rocks Bristlecone Jul 2021 #6
No, what she needs is to be told to speak English... JHB Jul 2021 #7
Irony is officially dead... Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #11
I don't know whether to laugh or cry. My head actually jerked when I read that. Biophilic Jul 2021 #12
Right wing thinking in a nutshell... Caliman73 Jul 2021 #15
i enjoyed this response: barbtries Jul 2021 #13
She knows what it means. She's just a liar. Caliman73 Jul 2021 #14
Harvard has already seen what a piece of muck this person is by kicking her out of alwaysinasnit Jul 2021 #16
She knows it's bullshit tenderfoot Jul 2021 #18
AOC has the best comeback (twitter) IcyPeas Jul 2021 #23
I disagree bluecollar2 Jul 2021 #24

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
22. As a Libertarian Taker, she's just trying to out stupid Greene & Boebert to capture attention.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jul 2021

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I think she was quiet for a while to let her last idiocy blow over.

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Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
2. It's not that they don't know what socialism is.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:53 AM
Jul 2021

It's just that twisting the meaning of the word fits their agenda and they do it to everything. Words and facts have no real meaning to republicans anymore. They just make it to fit their agenda as they see fit.

House of Roberts

(5,162 posts)
3. If stupid were fire...
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 11:55 AM
Jul 2021

Stefanik would have immolated long ago.

I guess she would argue that Medicare requires seniors to remain dependent on the Capitalist system of healthcare until we die. I start Medicare September 1st, and I am enrolled in Part A and Part B, because the guy that enrolled me in Social Security also enrolled me in those. I am at a loss, however, to differentiate between Medicare Advantage plans and 'Medigap' plans, to avoid giving my Part A and B money to the for-profit death merchants.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
17. Plan G is medigap.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 01:35 PM
Jul 2021

Medicare Advantage is NOT medicare, but a private insurer's alternative to medicare--they administer for you.

My husband has a Plan G. He's a math guy, ran the numbers, it was the best deal for him. Get Plan G, he said....

Plan G rates are set at age of attainment--I am fortunate to have medicare in my early 50s because I was unfortunate enough to have two heart attacks and CHF before 50. Plan G rates for me were exorbitant. They assume since I'm younger, I'm much sicker.

Medicare Advantage proved to be the best deal for me.

You'll have to, and I hate to even use this phrase anymore, do the research and price things out based on your typical medical needs + what ifs.



House of Roberts

(5,162 posts)
20. That's my problem.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 03:05 PM
Jul 2021
You'll have to, and I hate to even use this phrase anymore, do the research and price things out based on your typical medical needs + what ifs.


Doing the research is way above my pay grade. I didn't even know it was called Plan G.

My ex is convinced her best deal is Medicare Advantage. I can't get any help from her because, no matter what I get, it isn't going to be MA, and she doesn't see the pitfalls of it.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

brush

(53,743 posts)
5. My God. How does this happen? She's grown and hasn't...
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jul 2021

grasped the concept of socialism yet. And she's an elected representative sitting in a leadership position in the House.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
8. She's a conservative. They have their own bonkers dialect.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:16 PM
Jul 2021

It uses the same words as conventional English, but has Calvinball rules about definitions.

DFW

(54,300 posts)
9. Republicanese
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:18 PM
Jul 2021

They have their own vocabulary, grammar and spelling rules.

It can be very confusing if all you know is English.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
10. Conservativedumbassese
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:22 PM
Jul 2021

A.k.a. wingnutese, crackpotese, foamspeak, fundyspeak, RushNewtbabble, etc.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
7. No, what she needs is to be told to speak English...
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:14 PM
Jul 2021

...not conservativedumbassese.

Medicare and Medicare fall under the wildly-expansive conservativese definition of "socialist".

Biophilic

(3,631 posts)
12. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. My head actually jerked when I read that.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:29 PM
Jul 2021

Sometimes, ok actually a lot of the time, I simply can't keep up with RW thinking.

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
15. Right wing thinking in a nutshell...
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:54 PM
Jul 2021

This is what you need to know about right wing thinking.

Right wingers have a very simple agenda. "Put my group into power"

Everything else is very fluid. They will use any means to "put my group into power". How they define "my group" is fluid, although there are some definite ranges. The group should be "White" predominantly male, and Christian (preferably Protestant), straight, etc...

Right wingers claim to be "rational" but they operate almost exclusively on emotion and symbolism likely because their ideology is irrational and based on false assumptions.

Basically you can expect a right winger to say almost anything within a framework. They do not care about contradiction, fallacious thinking, hypocrisy, etc... because the ends justify the means.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
13. i enjoyed this response:
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:30 PM
Jul 2021



That's an aggressive, bordering on belligerent, level of stupidity she's displaying. Top form really.

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
14. She knows what it means. She's just a liar.
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 12:32 PM
Jul 2021

Greene and Boebert, Gohmert and Biggs are likely too stupid to actually know what socialism is. They just repeat the buzzwords.

Stefanik is smarter. One of her Democratic colleagues, who I think went to school with her, was talking about how her transformation into a right wing hack was surprising because she used to show a level of intelligence that would have precluded the stupid rhetoric she is using now. He called her craven, I believe.

IcyPeas

(21,841 posts)
23. AOC has the best comeback (twitter)
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 03:43 PM
Jul 2021
Totally agree.

In fact, to further protect Medicare from socialism, let’s strengthen it to include dental, vision, hearing, & mental healthcare and then allow all Americans to enjoy its benefits.

Trust me, Medicare for All is the #1 thing you can do to own the socialists.





bluecollar2

(3,622 posts)
24. I disagree
Fri Jul 30, 2021, 04:28 PM
Jul 2021

She appears to be digging pretty well. Maybe we could chip in to hand her another shovel when the present one becomes completely unservicesble...

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