Canary in the Coal Mine

[SheltieLover]

’CANARY IN COALMINE’ mega outbreak. Many large public events in Massachusetts town in early July led to 469 #COVID19 casesRightwards arrow 74% in **fully vaccinated**; 90% sampled #DeltaVariant. *Viral loads similar* in fully vaccinated vs unvaccinated. CDC worried

https://mobile.twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1421179048936488962

Dr. Ding is a Harvard epidemiologist who has been well ahead of the curve on delta.

Stay safe, All! 😷

[PortTack]

1. Yes, stay safe!

[SheltieLover]

2. Ty, You too!

😷

[Iheartsocialism]

3. Forced vaccines now

If these idiot antivaxxers would be forced to get the shot, none of these outbreaks would be happening. I would be happy to hold down my trumper neighbor while he gets it on his porch, laughing at him the whole time.

[leftstreet]

5. You're willing to assault someone? Sounds weird n/t

[Iheartsocialism]

6. Adults are in power

If the trumpsters insist on behaving like children that won't eat their broccoli, who should be the adults in the room? They aren't only killing themselves

[leftstreet]

7. lol

[Iheartsocialism]

9. Please

Explain your reasons for being so dismissive. I don't see what's so funny about public health.

[canetoad]

20. I'll see your LOL

And raise you a

[Iheartsocialism]

22. People are dying

Because of the antivax trumpers. Why do you think that is funny? I don't see how somebody can laugh at this situation. Just horrible.

[kentuck]

27. "Adults" should hold people down and give them a vaccine??

Really?

[Treefrog]

21. Oh good lord.

[RussBLib]

4. this is one of those times

when public safety outweighs individual rights

no one has the right to make others sick

[LisaL]

8. There were vaccinated people making other vaccinated people sick.

Just because you are vaccinated, doesn't mean you can go to large parties and expect not to get infected.

[NutmegYankee]

10. During previous vaccine studies some people tested positive without symptoms.

This might be the same scenario on steroids. The disease isn’t breaking out, or is mild, but they carry lots of virus in the nose than can be spread.

To be perfectly honest, part of me thinks we (vaccinated) shouldn’t mask to protect the unvaccinated. They couldn’t give a damn about us, so why should we do so for them?

[sir pball]

11. Honestly, your last paragraph is where I'm at right now.

We the vaxxed have a 90+% less chance of getting seriously ill, let alone dying, but we can catch and transmit the virus just as easily?

[Iheartsocialism]

12. A few

Intrepid volunteers could show up at a few rep rallies and really turn the odds in our favor. I like your thinking

[sir pball]

16. I'd do it.

Quite seriously, I'd accept the risk. Unfortunately I don't know anyone positive, nor are there any vulnerable events near me...

And no, I'm not a terribly nice person

[Iheartsocialism]

17. Where

Is the risk? The worst part of it would be having to sit through their lies and dodge the dip bottles

[sir pball]

24. It's still a non-negligible chance of death

But within my risk envelope; if I'll take the chance on thrill sports like skydiving or bungee jumping just for fun, it's certainly worth it for a greater cause like this.

[RussBLib]

13. some of the "breakthrough" cases have died

....and it appears that number is increasing, so I would not recommend you go around maskless, even if you have been vaccinated.

[RussBLib]

14. agreed

Just because you are vaccinated, doesn't mean you can go to large parties and expect not to get infected.

And we have a family retirement party to attend tomorrow evening. No one who did not get vaccinated was invited, but we will mask up anyway.

[Iheartsocialism]

15. People

Have been charged with assault for spitting on cops while having the AIDS virus. I think there is precedent for doing the same for those who refuse to get vaccinated or wear a mask and spread covid

[leftstreet]

18. Your posts make DU look stupid

You want to assault the nonvaxxed, you want to deliberately infect the nonvaxxed

...and you want the DU community to appear to support that

[Iheartsocialism]

19. Hmmm

Your concern is noted.

[kentuck]

26. Do you really love socialism?

As your name suggests?

[kentuck]

31. Your responses raise a question.

What kind of "socialism"?

[marble falls]

23. We can always look on the bright side of it ...

... there will a lot fewer of them. Whether it's a good thing or a bad one, it is true.

[marble falls]

32. I've seriously considered a cutoff date, and shipping anything left to the third world at no cost.

[kentuck]

25. What does it mean?

Is the vaccine losing its efficacy?

If they carry the same viral load, but the only difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated is that the vaccinated are better prepared to fight the virus because of their vaccine, is that not a good argument for the vaccine?

If it keeps you from going to the hospital and keeps you from dying, then it has done an effective job.

It is disturbing that both vaccinated and unvaccinated can carry the viral loads and spread it to others.

The mask is about the only defense we have at this time.

I would like to see the Biden Administration make an effort to get masks to every household in America, the N95 types.

[LisaL]

33. It's believed to be due to delta variant.

Delta variant is producing 1,000 fold higher viral load compared to previous variants.
So both vaccinated and unvaccinated who are infected have high viral loads.