Just a rant about SIL who refuses to mask up or get the vaccine.

[Ferrets are Cool]

My wife who is recovering from Stage 4 Lymphoma, sent a last resort text to her son today. She begged him to get vaccinated so that she would not lose him to Covid. He lives in Florida...nuff said.

He flat out refused.

It is one of the most selfish acts that I have ever experienced. He is worrying his mother to no end. She is so afraid that she will never see her son again. Just fucking selfish. I am so angry with him and will all the others that refuse the vaccine for NO fucking reason.

Rant over here, but still angry as HELL.

[onecaliberal]

1. Words fail.

[hlthe2b]

2. I can't blame you. Ignorance is usually forgivable. WILLFUL IGNORANCE is not.

I hope that she (or you both) have made it inescapably clear that he is not to "drop in" nor plan a visit until such time that he has been fully vaccinated AND agrees to wear a mask.

Until then, zoom calls, I guess if there is a relationship to be had.

[Ferrets are Cool]

3. There will be NO visits

and that is breaking her heart. And not a damned thing I can do but comfort her.

[SheltieLover]

4. So sorry, Ferret

[Ferrets are Cool]

6. Thank you so much and thank goodness for a place where we can rant

[SheltieLover]

8. Yw!

I totally agree! Rant away! We are here for you!

Dies her son know he is potentially risking his mother's health by causing such intense stress?

[bluedevil4]

5. As a mother of

a son that just breaks my heart. I’m so sorry to hear this especially where his mom is so sick. What’s wrong with people? I don’t know what the big deal is. From the way I understood this vaccination we didn’t just whip it up over night. I’m just sorry 🤦‍♀️

[Ferrets are Cool]

7. Thank you.

FREEDUMB

[SheltieLover]

9. I've read that the mRNA vaxes were in the making for 10 yrs

And that's why they were cranked out so quickly.

Ty to researchers with foresight!

[bluedevil4]

11. I heard something

along those lines. I think it was for SARS? Every doctor I talked to was very comfortable with this vaccine because they understood what went into it.

[Ms. Toad]

15. mRNA is new, in the sense that this is the first ue outside of clinical trials.

But they have been working on it for vaccines since the original SARS virus. They had it almost ready to go when the virus vanished.

It's also in stage 3 trials for cancer treatment.

[GB_RN]

18. Pretty Much. BioNTech (Pfizer) Was Working On Theirs As...

A melanoma vaccine first and changed gears to COVID when the pandemic came around, after realizing the potential to quickly get a vaccine ready with their tech.

I’d heard all this in an NPR report on the founders of the company some months back.

[Silver Gaia]

22. Yes!

My hubby's oncologist told us about this a few years ago when hubby was being treated for melanoma (successfully). He was very excited about it, explained how it worked in detail with drawings to illustrate, and even emailed me links to articles about it. He did this to give us hope that even if hubby's melanoma came back, THIS was in the works.

So, when I heard about the mRNA vaccines, I immediately made the connection to this work, and also read how it was just a matter of shifting gears. This knowledge gave me great faith in the mRNA vaccines. I wish the CDC and the media had done a better job of explaining this at the beginning (I use it whenever I talk to anyone about it), but I know that fucking TRUMP was why that did not happen.

[jmbar2]

10. This is so cruel

Antivax ignorance seems to have such a powerful hold over people. He is being disrespectful of his mother, IMO. Please extend to her the support of this board during her ongoing battle.

I saw your post right after reading a story in our small town weekly newspaper about a Covid outbreak in one of the main nursing homes in the area. The staff were trying to sound optimistic, like they had it all under control. The residents were 66% vaccinated, but were confined to their rooms to limit the spread.

The kicker was that only 35% of the staff were vaccinated. I could scream! Why are they allowed to work around vulnerable people?! The residents are paying the price for unvaccinated workers.

[Rebl2]

13. My parents

are in a nursing home and some of the nurses who are vaccinated are getting Covid again, so of course they are locked down again and have been for a couple of weeks. None of our local news stations are talking about it or the newspaper. They talked about it all the time last year.

[jmbar2]

16. How very stressful for residents and their families

Poor dears have become prisoners of this horrible disease. Sending you and yours heartfelt compassion!

[Ferrets are Cool]

41. Thank you so much for your support.

[Demovictory9]

12. 😥😢

[No Vested Interest]

14. Sorry to report a similar situation going on in my family.

I'm broken-hearted over this.

[Ferrets are Cool]

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[Bristlecone]

17. Even if he believes that BS, he could just tell her ok

Whether he gets it or not. Instead, he has to grandstand that bullshit. Sorry to hear about this.

[More_Cowbell]

19. You'd think he would do it just for her peace of mind

Fighting cancer has a mental component too.

I'll be sending her good (vaccinated) thoughts.

[Ferrets are Cool]

43. I know, right?

I just don't get it. Thank you for your thoughts.

[SergeStorms]

20. You have every right to be angry, Ferret.

You'd think that living in the eye of the COVID storm would enlighten him, but I guess not.

Some people just can't be saved from their own ignorance, no matter how hard others try.

You and your wife have done the best that can be expected of anyone. I've had members of my own family I've had to cut off contact with. Maybe someday down the road things can be repaired, but then again, maybe not.

Your conscience is clear. Your SIL's....... not so much.

[Richard58]

21. I totally get it.

My girlfriend has a 28 yr old daughter who is 8 months pregnant and refuses to get the vaccine even though she has had ample opportunity to do so. She thinks Covid is no big deal and no worse than the flu. Her idiot boyfriend--whom she lives with--is a hardcore Trumper and thinks the danger of the Covid virus is way overblown and that nobody needs to get a vaccine--or even wear a mask! My girlfriend is worried sick about her daughter. (Everyone else in her family is totally vaccinated.) It pisses me off that her daughter is so unsympathetic to her mother's concerns. She has pleaded with her to get the vaccine but she just laughs it off and says her mother is "being a sheep."
I really can't stand these anti-vaxxers. They ignore all medical and scientific advice and prefer to believe Fox News or Infowars! I'd like to slap her daughter upside the head and say, "What the hell is wrong with you? Get the damn vaccine! Think about your unborn child for Christ's sake!" But I obviously won't. And if she does get sick and die or loses the baby my girlfriend will be heartbroken. Why risk it? We are a country filled with imbeciles.

[Tree Lady]

26. I know the feeling my older grandkids 22 & 24 won't get it

My grand daughter because she was pregnant and now nursing but her husband won't either so its more than that, and they voted for Joe so its not a Trumper thing.

My grandson and girlfriend because they are afraid what the shot will do to them in the future. There is so much misinformation about it that these kids firmly believe what they do despite me, their mom my daughter telling them it is safe.

I worry for my grandson because he has had blood problems in the past where he had to get transfusions.

They all work in the public so are at risk. She just went back to work and has the baby in daycare and even though lady only watches 3 kids, that is 3 families that could give it. The sitter is careful keeps a separate area per child and no kids touch other toys or play together but she will come in contact with parents daily.

[Ferrets are Cool]

44. It all sounds so very familiar.

[LiberalArkie]

23. You can't talk to these people. They are the same as drunks who like to drive on the highways.

They run off the road and kill either themselves and their kids or other people. Then the family has the gaul to ask others to pay for hospital bills, funeral etc. And still not caring about the innocents they killed.

I have no more fucks to give about the non-vaxxers. They have no problem about spreading to others, we should not care about them.

[sybylla]

24. I hear you. May I join your rant?

My parents are vaxed, but refuse to mask up to see their 6mo great-grandson. They, of course, watch too much Fux Snooze and even told me, when I brought up the Delta var. that it's less strong than the original and my jaw just fell.

So, my elderly parents chose to not visit my grandson rather than put a mask on for 15 effing minutes. W. T. A. F.

[MLAA]

25. Holy moly, choosing not wearing a mask to not seeing their great grandson says a lot.

Before I opened this thread I was considering sending my trumper-vax-idiot a text. I stopped communicating with him a year ago. He lives in South Florida and was thinking about texting: just texting to say final goodbye as I hear Delta variant is killing non vaccinated like crazy.

[sybylla]

55. Aw, dang.

That would be tempting.

[Tree Lady]

27. It took until today for me to talk my husband into wearing a mask again

we are both vaccinated. What I did was every few days read to him from our local covid site how the cases were getting more and more and hospital and deaths. Then the governor few days ago told everyone including vaccinated to wear masks inside. We live in Oregon but in a red city and vaccination rate is lower than other counties.

He finally got it so don't give up. I literally for weeks told him information and he refused but today told me he would start wearing it again.

[sybylla]

56. I am lucky in this regard.

My SO and my kids never stopped masking. They have to mask for work and we live in a part of Wisconsin full of anti-vax trumpers. We just don't trust anyone and don't want to take it home to the unvaxed kiddos.

[Tree Lady]

62. Peer pressure gets to my hubby

I have no problem being only one wearing a mask, he feels embarrassed which is stupid when its your life on the line.

I had to go to AAA office today to get passport pics done, just a renewal not traveling now, I was only person wearing mask until pic taken, including everyone that worked there inside office.

[Ferrets are Cool]

45. Just wow

[sybylla]

58. Exactly. Who does that?

I heard this from my daughter, but today my mom texted me that they weren't going to stop to see great-grandbaby because they were going to see too many people and would wait until COVID settles down a little more. It's a bit of hopped-up BS. But I'm not calling her on it. They are respecting daughter's wishes even if they are doing so passive-aggressively. I'll take it.

[Meowmee]

59. Wow

Hard to believe

[niyad]

28. I am so very sorry to hear this, Ferret. Sending vibes for healing and strength for you

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and your wife, and a stiletto-heeled kick in the posterior for that selfish jerk.

Rant away, your DU family is here for you.

[Ferrets are Cool]

46. Thank you so much Niyad

[Skittles]

29. sometimes I think family is very overrated

you have my sympathy

[DFW]

33. Not always

I'm very cool with mine. But it's luck of the draw, just like anything else.

The worst is when people you really care for, and consider rational and reasonable, get this hair up their ass, and embrace some totally irrational, useless, and downright dangerous propaganda fantasy being promoted for no other reason than that it opposes things that Democrats are for (like health and survival). They're all so "pro-life" until they show their true "pro-death" colors.

[Grasswire2]

50. My adult son and his partner are a case study of a different kind.

They are into this popular "clean eating" fad diet. Don't put anything into your body that might ail you. It's an eating disorder, really.

And so they repudiate the vaccine. She's a high-anxiety person, to boot.

I know their chances of staying well amid Covid are slim to none. I haven't seen him for five years -- they live on opposite coast. I won't be able to say goodbye when the Delta hits them. It's heartbreaking for a mother to contemplate her child in misery without her hand on the brow, her words of comfort.

Okay, I'm crying a little now.

[DFW]

51. I'm so sorry to hear that. The powerlessness must hurt the most

No matter HOW much you want to make things better, your own child wants no part of it, and will shut you off if you try.

We have a daughter living on another continent, but we are in close touch (have even spent the last 4 weeks together in her country of residence), and pretty much on the same wavelength. We brought her up to have an open mind and think for herself, and she married someone with the same views. The other one, who lives nearer to us, isn't married, but lives with her partner of choice, who also shares her/our views. They now have two daughters of their own who are, as of this year, now both U.S. citizens. In 17 years, two more voting Texas Democrats. I guess we just got lucky.

[LanternWaste]

57. I think 'sometimes' already implicitly encompasses 'not always'

[maxsolomon]

30. The danger is to HER from HIM.

I cannot imagine refusing a vaccine when I might lose my mom to cancer - because I did lose my mom to cancer.

[Ferrets are Cool]

47. I know, right?

[TlalocW]

31. I just learned that one of my co-workers

Is just now getting the vaccine because her brother died of it. Apparently she didn't want to be "experimented on." I took this job in a small office (seven people) adjacent to the health care industry because before all the shit hit the fan, I stopped my business because I could have been a super-spreade. It boggles the mind.

TlalocW

[Dan]

32. Leave your estate to someone that cares...

[ancianita]

34. I feel you. I live here in Florida.

Just know that we get it. Stay righteous. Totally with you about NO visits.
I've lost friends over their shockingly twisted decision.
Sooner or later, the variant will teach your SIL the hard way.

[Warpy]

35. Until and unless his job is tied to it, there's nothing you can do

except take a deep breath and wait. Covid is still not an efficient killer and even the dunces among us have a decent chance of survival.

It's just that when it goes bad, it goes really, really bad.

I hope he beats the odds. Right now, there is nothing you can do except tell him you hope he has burial insurance.

[FakeNoose]

36. Serious suggestion: offer him money to get vaccinated

It's a disgusting thought (to some of us) but offer him $100 to get the shots. He might suddenly realize how stupid he has been about it, and maybe he'll agree to do it. If he takes the money, well so what? It comes out of his inheritance anyway, but you don't have to tell him that.

[COL Mustard]

38. Dammit. I Got My Shots For Nothin'

I’m going back to the pharmacy for a new set of shots. I need some Benjamins!!!!!

[paleotn]

37. "Just fucking selfish" That sums it up perfectly.

And for everyone who refuses to take precautions. They are just fucking selfish.

[Ferrets are Cool]

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[COL Mustard]

39. Ferrets, I'm Sorry You're Going Through That

I hope your SIL will get his head out of his ass so he can see his Mom.

[Ferrets are Cool]

40. I want to thank everyone for your overwhelming support.

It is quite breathtaking and the thing that makes you all so special. Thank you.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

49. I am so sorry.

Everyone I know, and I think everyone I'm related to is vaccinated.

Although, come to think of it, there's one I need to ask. A month or so ago a niece was going to stop by to see me on her way to another city. She cancelled the trip for work obligations. It just occurred to me I will need to ask her if she's vaccinated if the trip is rescheduled.

I could play the "I had a serious heart attack in December card", although that can't compare to stage 4 lymphoma. My one son is a scientist, an astronomer actually, but deadly serious about science. Lucky me.

[SarcasticSatyr]

52. You did what you could, now let it go and protect yourself ...

You just can't force people to do the right thing ... a friend of mine's father is the same way, she and her mother got vaccinated, but her father refuses.

[Woodwizard]

53. Dealing with that with my daughter.

She works with a bunch of zombies that wont get vaccinated and no amount of scientific information I give beats the loony conspiracy shit. I am beyond pissed off I am not making excuses for her she is an idiot at this point. These assholes are going to keep us in uncertainty for god knows how long or worse breed a strain that bypasses us vaccinated.

[Ferrets are Cool]

54. I am so sorry

[Tink41]

60. First, I'm sorry!

Second, does he not understand his Mother's compromised position? Does he not know how weak her immune system is? Let alone
stress like that is not good for Lymphoma. My Mother passed years ago from Non-Hodgkins. It was because of her, I willingly quarantined, wear a mask, and got my vaccine. God forbid I took a bed when others like her might need one. Heartless he is.

[Ferrets are Cool]

63. He just doesn't care

And they used to be so very, very close. She still harbors that love, but evidently he does not.

[Nevilledog]

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