The Democratic Establishment Is Going All Out To Beat Nina Turner

[LetMyPeopleVote]

I am not a fan of the Just Us Democrats and Nina Turner. I am glad that the party is going to take a strong stand when the Just Us Democrats target a real democrat. We are seeing this conflict in the OH 11

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Moderate Democratic groups, donors and even some Republicans are flooding Ohio’s 11th Congressional District with millions of dollars in a bid to elect Shontel Brown and defeat progressive favorite Nina Turner in Tuesday’s special primary election.

House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.), along with Democratic Reps. Joyce Beatty (Ohio), Gregory Meeks (N.Y.) and Bennie Thompson (Miss.), are headlining a get-out-the-vote event for Brown this weekend as well. ....

The goal of Brown’s establishment allies, however, is not merely to stop Turner. By defeating Turner, a staunch ally of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and critic of Democratic Party leaders, these moderates also hope to send a shot across the bow to the nascent activist left ― a signal that they are ramping up efforts to limit the left’s influence in Congress.

“Establishment Dems have largely slept through a lot of primary challenges or a lot of these races where the Justice Democrats have played,” said a moderate Democratic strategist uninvolved in the race, who asked for anonymity for professional reasons. “They’re not going to do that anymore.” ....

But as her critics have grown more willing to remind voters, she is also someone who publicly entertained an offer to serve as Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein’s running mate in 2016, and who, in 2020, likened the choice between President Donald Trump and Biden to deciding between a “bowl of shit” and “half” of that bowl.....

“People who vote in the Democratic primary tend to be voters who are proud to be Democrats and prioritize Democratic unity,” said Cass, a partner at Slingshot Strategies in Manhattan. “If your words can be twisted and painted in a way that makes it look like you are antithetical to that ― which Nina Turner is not, but people she has pissed off perceive that to be the case ― I don’t think Democratic voters like that.”

I get the Just US Democrats emails and you can see that the Just Us Democrats are desperate to raise more money to stick it to corporate democrats. I find these emails to be very funny

[elleng]

1. The Democratic establishment is pissing me off;

not the first time.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

2. I really do not want a third party person in this seat who will be blocking Joe Biden

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[Cha]

10. Why? They're go;ing all out to defeat this..

Sanders Campaign Co-Chair Nina Turner Rips Biden: Choosing Between Him and Trump is Like Eating From a ‘Bowl of Sh*t’

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213815901

And, here's Establishment Martha Fudge's Mom Supporting Shontel Brow!!

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215586985

[Demsrule86]

14. They are doing their job to elect Democrats. No reason to vote for Nina Turner. She is not a

Democrat and it is a primary. Sure she gets my vote in a
general election...hope she is not our candidate though. I voted for Shontel this morning.

[aeromanKC]

3. Establishment Dem or Jill Stein Dem?

Not even a close call!! Go Shontel!!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

5. A vote for Jill stein was a vote for TFG

[leftstreet]

4. Fair play. Manchin/Sinema block Democrats from the right

no reason not to have some balance from the left

[Demsrule86]

15. Manchin and Sinema are Democrats... like them or not. And they come from red states.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

6. The Just Us Democrats claim that the race is rigged

This sounds like TFG playbook

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[LiberalFighter]

25. Wasn't that the same excuse used in the 2020 Democratic Primaries?

[dsc]

29. They have the same definition of rigged as trump

Black people voted and our candidate lost

[rogue emissary]

33. +1

[betsuni]

35. +1

[LetMyPeopleVote]

41. Yes

They use the same claim over and over agin.

[LowerManhattanite]

7. Let's pray we get an ACTUAL Dem in there!

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[msfiddlestix]

8. GOOD. Very Glad to Read/Hear it.

Go Dem Establishment!

Get the job done!

[Happy Hoosier]

9. Well, duh. She's not a democrat. NT

[Demsrule86]

11. I voted for Shontel Brown in the primary this morning.

[OnDoutside]

18. Well done !

[Hortensis]

21. Hi, Dems. I envy you. Our slate's always all far right, no GOOD choice.

Imo, people who want to act out should do it themselves, in privacy as appropriate for deniability. Not elect surrogates to disrupt government for them.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

12. In close Ohio special election, Jewish vote could determine outcome

The Jewish vote may prove to be decisive

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“This election is going to be close, and Jewish voters — whose turnout numbers are relatively high — may determine the outcome of the race,” said Halie Soifer, chief executive of the Jewish Democratic Council of America.

Turner is supported by Sanders; Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts; progressive members of Congress known as The Squad; and the local chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America.

Brown is backed by former presidential nominee Hillary Clinton; Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the House Majority Whip; Rep. Joyce Beatty from Ohio who chairs the Congressional Black Caucus; and a number of Jewish and pro-Israel groups including the Jewish Democratic Council of America, Democratic Majority for Israel, Pro Israel America and NORPAC.

Pro-Israel support for Brown
The 11th District has the largest population of Jewish residents in the state, which is estimated at 5% of the electorate. While both of the leading candidates are Black and domestic politics has largely dominated the race, their stances on Israel have become a contentious issue as the Brown campaign and groups supporting her try to mobilize the Jewish community.

This could be good news for Shontel

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[Behind the Aegis]

20. And this will bite us in the ass...

...bet on it! Especially when...er, I mean, if, Brown wins.

[Hortensis]

22. Don't get it. Only with antisemites, surely? Who else is going to

make anything of it, and of those who notice even remember by Friday?

[Behind the Aegis]

23. You'd be surprised. But yes, I am speaking of anti-Semites and their enablers.

The groundwork is being laid, or rather, has been laid.

[George II]

31. There are a lot more Anti-Semites than many think, even in our own Democratic Party. Sad.

[Behind the Aegis]

36. Don't I know it!

Though, I will say I have it constantly "'splained" to me how anti-Semitism doesn't really exist on the left and we Jews really don't understand what anti-Semitism is and isn't.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

43. @ShontelMBrown thanks "my Jewish brothers and sisters"

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[Rustyeye77]

34. BTA...yep

When in doubt..blame the ***s

[LetMyPeopleVote]

42. The Jewish vote made the difference in #Ohio11 in support of @ShontelMBrown .

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[Behind the Aegis]

38. Just thought I would add...

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[Hortensis]

45. The ADL denounced her "raging."

I just wasn't paying enough attention, but of course a dirty anti-Democratic Party crowd whose public SOP is vicious lies and attacks are of course going to have a lot of nasty stuff wrong with them. It's a given.

Flush.

[NurseJackie]

13. Kick!

[Demsrule86]

16. I voted for Shontel this morning! So did hubs.

[Nixie]

26. That's wonderful!

Vote for Democrats !

[Sympthsical]

17. Oooh, we have an Establishment now!

I was told for years there was no such thing.

How's things at the office anyway? Lots of work on this.

[Nixie]

24. Haha, Turner took the Clinton's help the first

time she ran. No name calling then, but now that’s all she has. The only reason she won before was because of the Clinton’s name.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

27. I am the email list for the Justice Democrats or according to their podcast "just Us" Dems

These emails are so sad and bad that they are funny. According to this sad but funny emails, establishment and corporate democrats are against the Just US candidates. I may break down and go listen to official podcast of this group which is called “Just Us”.

According to these sad but funny emails, I need to give these people money to run against good real Democratic candidates.

[George II]

30. Their latest email had two pre-emptive excuses why Turner will lose. Exact words from the email:

Here’s what she's up against:

✅ Endorsements from Hillary Clinton and their corporate donor dollars.


✅ And a rigged campaign finance system that has allowed special interest groups and corporate SuperPacs to drown out the voices of Ohio voters in this race.

Even as late as a day before the Primary they're trashing Hillary Clinton!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

32. I was amused by that email

I actually got essentially the same email on Sunday and again today. They are running out of material and excuses

[LetMyPeopleVote]

37. For this thread

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

44. This is Joe Biden's Party Now

The Democratic Party is Joe's party

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This is Joe Biden's party now. That was the indisputable message sent after Cuyahoga County Councilwoman Shontel Brown defeated former Ohio state senator Nina Turner in the Democratic primary to succeed Marcia Fudge. The special election to fill the seat in Ohio's 11th Congressional District will be held in a few months, but the outcome is already known, given that it is one of the bluest districts in the country.

This race was once thought to be a slam dunk for Turner, given that she began with a commanding 35 point lead and strong name recognition. Turner cemented herself as a progressive, anti-establishment firebrand over the past several years as a fierce backer of Senator Bernie Sanders' 2016 and 2020 Presidential runs. She refused to back Hillary Clinton's presidential bid once she became the Democratic nominee, and last year compared voting for Joe Biden to eating a bowl of excrement.....

While progressives have had some success during Donald Trump's tenure, the political winds are now blowing in a different direction. A recent AP poll found that 92 percent of Democrats approve of Biden's work as President. That means it is going to be difficult for progressives who brand themselves as anti-Biden or anti-establishment to win.

This point was implicitly acknowledged by the pro-Sanders group Our Revolution when their executive director rebranded them as "pragmatic progressives" who were willing to work with President Biden's more moderate agenda rather than flatly oppose it. You can see this also in other recent progressive losses in high profile races, such as the runoff election in Louisiana's 2nd district, or the Virginia gubernatorial and New York mayoral primaries. Centrist candidate Eric Adams, now the Democratic nominee for mayor of New York, went as far as to call himself the "Biden of Brooklyn."....

While the race between Brown and Turner might not be the biggest of the year, it is nevertheless important because it is emblematic of how internal Democratic dynamics will play out during the Biden years. Turner showed us that even a well funded anti-establishment candidate with name recognition and endorsements can lose in this Democratic environment.

[Sympthsical]

46. Is there a reason you're spamming articles at me days after the fact?

Very strange. I'm a big Biden fan and often note it, so this is even stranger. Didn't read it though. I don't read when people spam at me.

I only spent $80 at Costco yesterday. Pretty pumped. It was my once a month shop for staples, and I thought it was going to cost a small fortune. But fortunately, nearly everything I needed was on sale. A big thing of coffee was only $7.50.

So I was pretty pleased with that. $5 Fridays at Safeway today, so I'm going to roll on into that after gym. They have pork ribs on sale, and I discovered a keto BBQ sauce recipe I really want to try. We finally, finally just replaced the propane tank for our grill, so I figured give that a whirl.

Have a lovely weekend!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

47. You claimed that there was no establishment which post was wrong in every way

There is an establishment inside the Democratic Party and right now Joe Biden, Speaker Pelosi, Majority leader Schumer and Whip Clyburn are that establishment

[OnDoutside]

19. Update

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@brent_peabody

Turnout in Cuyahoga County is 11%

But turnout is a lot higher in Shontel Brown's strongholds (where local officials have endorsed her):

Beachwood: 23%
Shaker Heights: 19%
Cleveland Heights: 18%
Cleveland's Ward 1: 15%

5 hours to go, but I'd rather be Brown #OH11

[themaguffin]

28. GOOD

[LetMyPeopleVote]

39. These headlines make me smile

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

40. Nina Turner's loss in Ohio means Biden doesn't need to keep caving to the left

This race has some interesting implications. AOC and the squad demanded that OH11 voters send Nina Turner to bolster their power to block President Biden's plans

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Shontel's victory over Nina and the Squad is important in that it gives Joe Biden more flexibility

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That’s what makes Shontel Brown’s upset victory on Tuesday in an Ohio special election so refreshing. She beat Nina Turner, the epitome of smashmouth-style liberalism, in a Democratic primary to fill the House seat vacated by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Marcia L. Fudge.

Brown prevailed by embracing President Biden — and celebrating his brand of incrementalism. “This is about making progress, and sometimes that takes compromise,” she said during her victory speech in a Cleveland suburb. “Because when you demand all or nothing, usually you end up with nothing.”....

Biden has to be attentive to the left, given Democrats’ slim House majority. But Tuesday’s results suggest he doesn’t need to contort himself to placate the party’s progressive wing — as he’s doing with the extension of the eviction moratorium — as much as they demand or he has often deemed necessary.....

Fear was another motivation for CBC leaders. They privately worried a Turner victory would embolden additional radicals to launch primary challenges against incumbent Black lawmakers in 2022. What happened to Lacy Clay in Missouri remains top of mind. The 10-term congressman, whose father co-founded the CBC, was defeated in a primary last summer by activist Cori Bush, who had the support of Sanders and the Democratic Socialists of America.

And that may be the real significance of the Ohio results. They show the leader of the Democratic Party is not Sanders or AOC. It’s Biden. And he should start acting like it. At least he can count on Shontel Brown’s vote.

[Wounded Bear]

48. Perhaps the Justice Dems should start trying to take Repub seats...

instead of trying to infiltrate and weaken the Democratic party.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

49. I have been following the Justice Democrats for a while

I have been following the Justice Democrats and its predecessor for a while including the "brand new congress group" and other groups created by Cenk, Kyle Kulinksi and their ilk. I am on the Justice Democrat email list and I have even listened once or twice to the Justice Democrat podcast which is amusingly called "Just Us" democrats. The Justice Democrats emails are fun to laugh at and I love the hatred this group shows to the Democratic Party, establishment Democrats and best of all corporate democrats. The posts attacking the DCCC for raising money to elect real Democrats are really amusing.

There are a large number posters on twitter who have issues with the concept of the Justice Democrat group wanting to take over the Democratic party and remake into their image.

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Tthe concept that the Justice Democrats want to take over the Democratic Party is wrong

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Again the above posts are consistent with the hatred of the Democratic Party that I see on the almost daily emails that I get from the Justice Democrats.