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rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 06:11 PM Aug 2021

But The Vaccine Was Too "Dangerous"

I just lost 2 high school friends this weekend. A guy I graduated with and his wife (a few years behind) both came down with COVID-19. They (like many people in SW Missouri) refused to get vaccinated. Their reason? They believed the vaccine was "too dangerous." Well now they're both dead - Delta Variant got them both. What could be more dangerous than that?

I'm just so sick of this. Surviving friends still refuse to get vaccinated in that area. I have given up trying to convince them.

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But The Vaccine Was Too "Dangerous" (Original Post) rustysgurl Aug 2021 OP
Let them die.. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2021 #1
But they are more likely to pass it to quakerboy Aug 2021 #8
As an old saying says: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it!" RKP5637 Aug 2021 #2
You can lead a person to a clinic LastDemocratInSC Aug 2021 #5
ask the medical folk who have to take care of them if it is worth the effort Skittles Aug 2021 #14
You can lead a person to knowledge Unknown Beatle Aug 2021 #21
It's medicine. The stick hurts for a few seconds. shenmue Aug 2021 #3
I've never had a shot that hurt less catrose Aug 2021 #9
When I was a kid my family was the only broken home in our school district, 2Gingersnaps Aug 2021 #15
If any of your friends don't have kids Effete Snob Aug 2021 #4
Geez. Both dead. Sigh. PatrickforB Aug 2021 #6
I'm so sorry for the loss of old friends. Tribalism has become so cruel. Hekate Aug 2021 #7
Listen to the wrong media Aussie105 Aug 2021 #10
That is very sad indeed for their family and friends, Tanuki Aug 2021 #11
I have two evangelical cousins who moved with their wives and kids 2Gingersnaps Aug 2021 #12
It is what it is. Sorry for your loss, but not sorry for them and their obstinate behavior, Lucky Luciano Aug 2021 #13
The second part of that sentence is not necessary. Cinnamonspice Aug 2021 #19
And the really sad thing is they'll happily take BS cures like Invermectin and hydroxychloroquine... Initech Aug 2021 #16
You Can't Convince Them. COL Mustard Aug 2021 #17
This is awful. I'm so sorry for your loss. Cinnamonspice Aug 2021 #18
They made their choice greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #20
It's not your fault people won't listen MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #22
A close friend died last month. I didn't find out until last week. I still feel numb. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2021 #23

quakerboy

(13,914 posts)
8. But they are more likely to pass it to
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 07:09 PM
Aug 2021

their neighbor with an immune condition, or the kid down the street, and kill them. And it wont be their faults, but they will be the ones that die. Or are permanently damaged by this virus. The jackasses are the ones that refuse the vaccine, catch it, and come out with no symptoms. Or who just stop smelling and spend the next 5 years thinking its funny to fart around others who are forced to smell, and isnt covid so funny.

RKP5637

(67,080 posts)
2. As an old saying says: "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink it!"
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 06:17 PM
Aug 2021

People not getting the vaccine now are simply a lost cause, it's just not worth the effort.

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
14. ask the medical folk who have to take care of them if it is worth the effort
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 07:46 PM
Aug 2021

it's not just about them

catrose

(5,058 posts)
9. I've never had a shot that hurt less
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 07:28 PM
Aug 2021

And they're supposed to inserting chips in to you? I've done cat rescue work for decades, and those needles are big--and the kittens yell.

This shot? After it was over, I thought, "Oh, that little scratch must have been the shot." I didn't even look around.

I'm probably on the spectrum but too old to have been diagnosed as a child--I was just weird, never had many friends, never part of the crowd. That used to break my heart, but now I think it's a great advantage.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
15. When I was a kid my family was the only broken home in our school district,
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 07:54 PM
Aug 2021

and it had been broken by death, we were orphaned. It was a very early lesson in human nature, it amazed me how shitty people were to us because we were parentless. My mother died of cancer and apparently should not have been having children, we weren't the healthiest. We were tormented hellishly. I moved away at 18 and never looked back. I was the third kid, and painfully shy, so I was always on the outside looking in. Didn't make me feel bad, what I saw on the inside did not impress me one bit. I had the attitude that I might be as insignificant as a grain of sand, but I was better than tormenting orphans.

I am such a science geek, I know we are mammals and as such, social animals. Our brains are wired to need social interaction. Isolation is not healthy. So they say. A good book, good music, a few close relatives, I am good. I miss travel, I miss parks, I miss museums, I'm missing a concert tomorrow and that is aggravating. But this too shall pass. I prefer not to. Even less, dying trying to force air in my lungs. I am asthmatic, I've had enough of that.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
4. If any of your friends don't have kids
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 06:48 PM
Aug 2021

Ask them if they’d like to leave you their stuff. Find a will form suitable for your state and see if they’ll sign it.

PatrickforB

(14,556 posts)
6. Geez. Both dead. Sigh.
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 06:58 PM
Aug 2021

I know they brought that on themselves, but it is still sad. And even sadder if they gave it to others on the way down.

Aussie105

(5,308 posts)
10. Listen to the wrong media
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 07:30 PM
Aug 2021

and it's too easy to see COVID as a hoax, and vaccines as a real thread.

Humans aren't very good at judging the relative potential impact of threats in their environment.
Especially if the twisted media give them an easy way out.
COVID doesn't exist, but the vaccine is a real danger.
Despite all the evidence?
Delusional!

Wife and I have had our double shot of the AZ vaccine, but a lot of younger relatives can't be convinced to have theirs.

We keep on telling them that:

Any vaccine is better than none.
A vaccination won't work once you have the virus in you.
It takes a few weeks for the vaccine to protect you, so you better be ready for when/if it comes down your street.

But no success convincing them.

Tanuki

(14,910 posts)
11. That is very sad indeed for their family and friends,
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 07:34 PM
Aug 2021

and so unnecessary. Refusing vaccination is a choice that is almost incomprehensible to me.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
12. I have two evangelical cousins who moved with their wives and kids
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 07:37 PM
Aug 2021

to Missouri, because Ohio wasn't backward enough. I see their posts attacking Dr. Fauci along with their Covid misinformation, coulda swore FB made some noise about putting a stop to that. So sorry for your loss, and sorrier still it was so easily preventable.

Cinnamonspice

(163 posts)
19. The second part of that sentence is not necessary.
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 08:41 PM
Aug 2021

This person lost their friends. The couple lost their lives. Somebody lost their family members.

Initech

(100,013 posts)
16. And the really sad thing is they'll happily take BS cures like Invermectin and hydroxychloroquine...
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 08:20 PM
Aug 2021

Before they take a proven vaccine.

Seriously they will take horse meds that are for sale right next to tractor parts.

COL Mustard

(5,864 posts)
17. You Can't Convince Them.
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 08:35 PM
Aug 2021

They will have to learn one way or another.

I'm sorry you lost friends..sorry for you.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,577 posts)
22. It's not your fault people won't listen
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 08:47 PM
Aug 2021

People are obstinate. Their actions don't just have consequences for themselves but for everyone else they come in contact with.

23. A close friend died last month. I didn't find out until last week. I still feel numb.
Sun Aug 1, 2021, 08:56 PM
Aug 2021

My friend and his girlfriend went to a local bar in mid-June to listen to the music. Both were un-vaccinated and chose not wear masks. They both got sick with COVID -- hers was acute, his was fatal.

Our country has divided into two factions. The first wants to get back to pre-pandemic life, and will do what it takes to make that happen -- vaccines, masks, social distancing.

The other group wants to get back to pre-pandemic life, but they don't want the inconvenience of doing anything to contribute to that goal. Freedom, ya know. God Bless America! God Bless Donald Trump! They get to be right -- dead Right.

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