Employee gave 2 week notice rather than get vaxxed is walking.back his resignation

[Demovictory9]

How should employer handle?

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	Keep resignation in place
	13 (27%)
	Allow him to withdraw resignation
	33 (67%)
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[Hoyt]

1. If he's good at job, keep him. If not, say tough. My guess is he's a loser/ass.

[TheBlackAdder]

25. Every job I was at, if you submit your resignation you were let go. You showed you had no loyalty.

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People like that are then viewed with distrust, as they are probably just staying on until they can find another job. They showed that they will jump ship over the slightest reasons, and if they are readmitted, they should not be placed in an area that they would have access to client or restricted information. They could copy it and leave, later setting up shop to take clients away from the firm, or selling that list to other competitors. They could also stage a job site accident and place the company on the hook for extended medical care.

Also, would I wasn't an anti-vaxxer at my site? They are willfully placing others in the firm at risk and probably hold other RW/QAnon viewpoints and might be a cause of conflict. It's one thing to resist getting a vaccine, it's another to take it to the actual resignation level. That right there shows a drastic and rigid thought process. They also probably didn't think through the resignation and when they came to their senses, realized they were not prepared for unemployment.

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[DBoon]

28. So let hime stay just long enough to find a good replacement

and hopefully make his last few weeks miserable and humiliating

Sounds cruel, but many of my employers would have done the same

[TheBlackAdder]

35. Yeah, but then, unless it's a RTW state, letting him go might add more issues and costs.

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The decision has to be made if he has transferable skills, and he will be tuned into why he's doing it now.

Hopefully, he's not in a position that has such leverage. But the way the OP made it sound made it seem that onboarding was not really required.

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[DBoon]

38. I understand RTW as affecting union representation

obviously no company should run afoul of a union contract.

As a white collar technical salaried worker, I had no such protections and saw raw management vengeance at its worst.

You need to be careful when firing people for cause, however there are many creative ways to eliminate positions otherwise. Since the 1980s, companies have regularly "re-organized", and positions could be arbitrarily eliminated using this excuse.

[Polybius]

42. You would hate me then

I once put in my two weeks, and then after I left, I came back two weeks later asking if I could come back. They said yes.

[TheBlackAdder]

44. Nope, why would I hate you?

[Demovictory9]

46. wouldn't hate you.

[markie]

2. depends on how valuable he is to the company...

it is a rhetorical question...

[IcyPeas]

3. Is he a good worker?

[LakeArenal]

4. Someone more deserving should be hired.

[tinymontgomery]

7. Agree

Do your best to find someone that is willing to follow the guidelines you require. 2, Let him realize there are
consequences for his actions. He was probably, just guessing, he was never held to account for anything
he ever did.

[Ocelot II]

5. Is it better for the business to keep him or train someone new?

If he's good at his job, probably keep him.

[flying rabbit]

6. Is he worth it?

Will he be complaining about having to get the vac all the time?

[drray23]

8. Obviously accept the resignation.

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If that guy was willing to give his two week notice over a matter of public health safety he can't be trusted in the future. He probably realized he could not get a better job elsewhere and now wants his old job back. He will stab the employer in the back first opportunity he gets.

[Blue_true]

20. Honestly good points. nt

[crickets]

27. This. nt

[DBoon]

30. Yes

I'd rather work with someone incompetent than with someone who is untrustworthy

Someone incompetent - you can plan around their failings and assign them lesser tasks they may be able to competently complete

Someone untrustworthy will never be able to gain trust

[grantcart]

47. Yep and see how fast word gets around on the internets

[Hamlette]

9. employer will pay unemployment benefits if he is not allowed to rescind.

but the real issue should be if he is a good employee.

[NurseJackie]

10. I'd give the employee a two-week "let me think about it" notice...

... and I'd try to find someone else to fill the position during that time that I'm "thinking about it". If I was unsuccessful, then I'd take him back (at his original new-hire salary, and on the same 90-day probationary period, and without tenure/seniority, and building his vacation/sick days from zero.)

[Ohio Joe]

11. Let him go...

He acted like a selfish dick, putting himself above the welfare of employees and customers alike. Does not matter how good he is, he will pull crap like this again when it suits him so... Fuck him, let him go. Nobody is that good and everyone can be replaced.

[GoodRaisin]

12. How hard is he to replace?

If he's hard to replace then I would probably let him return. Otherwise he's history.

[NCjack]

13. If I had other reasons to want him gone, I would let him go.

IF this was an uncharacteristic act by him, I would have a long talk about why, can he come to work each day with the intent of making the company successful, and can both of us put this behind us? Then decide.

[Blue_true]

18. Decent approach, I am down with that path. nt

[aeromanKC]

14. Confirm his vaccination is accurate

There are fake vaccination cards out there. He seems like one who would use a stolen valor vaccination card.

[Blue_true]

17. I agree. nt

[GulfCoast66]

15. Since he is working I assume he has value.

Kid is 26 and finally decided to do the right thing. God know at that age I was often an idiot.

I’d keep him on. It’s hard to find good help now.

[Blue_true]

16. Have him provide official verification that he is vaccinated.

If he does that, allow him to withdraw his resignation. He needs to provide the valid proof fast, no hesitation.

[Demovictory9]

34. Definitely

[Blue_true]

37. You know.

I am now leaning toward the idea that maybe someone who acted like he did can’t be trusted period. So let him go and find someone else who comes in vaccinated and in line with the values of what appears to be a medical practice.

His past behavior should already provide clues on whether he should be kept or let go. Like someone pointed out, if this was a one-off act by him in an otherwise stellar work stand, then sit down with him to have a hard conversation about where his head on the vaccination issue was. But if there have been other instances where he has acted out, even a little, let him go, because if he is kept, like someone pointed out, he will stab the business in the back at some point down the road.

[Maru Kitteh]

19. Depends on the quality of the work, potential, what was

said in the resignation letter. I'd take all those things into account.

[Scrivener7]

21. Boot him. His judgement is crap.

[DFW]

22. It all depends on his attitude

If it‘s „I am so sorry. I feel like an idiot. I allowed myself to be swayed by people and media instead of my common sense. I‘d really like a second chance to prove I‘m smarter than my rash resignation indicates, if you‘ll let me,“ then I‘d take him back, at least provisionally, and have that written into his new work contract, so he knows he has to follow through.

On the other hand, if he wants to come back with, „There! I got the goddam vaccine, are ya happy?“ I‘d just say, „yeah, now I‘m happy, and your resignation still stands.“

[Demovictory9]

24. he might be maga

[cachukis]

23. He made his choice. Accommodating that, won't go well.

[Tomconroy]

26. Cut him a break. We let sinners repent.

[hookaleft]

29. Give the kid a break.........

Come on now.....

[Demovictory9]

32. Kid?

[Celerity]

49. He is 26, I have seen DU'ers on here call all millennials (some who will be 41yo in January) kids or

children. Often in a nasty, condescending way.

I have seen it extended to some Gen Xers.

One poster even said (zero sarcasm, he got all argy bargy when I challenged him) all women under 40 (or might have been 50) are 'girls'.

[USALiberal]

52. Lol! No!

[RockRaven]

31. Refusing the vaccine initially and the resignation BOTH show poor judgment...

And that vaccine refusal was a months-long persistent exercise of poor judgment.

Bye bye.

[Demovictory9]

33. And will he get the booster ?

[TexasBushwhacker]

36. I looked at her profile on Twitter

She lives in Galveston, TX, so I'm guessing she works at the UT Medical Branch. $65K is a REALLY good salary for a 26 year old in Texas. I'd cut him loose. Actions have consequences.

BTW, he won't be eligible for unemployment benefits because he quit.

[Hortensis]

39. Depends on level of integrity and independent judgement the job requires

and how much supervision he'd get. Refusing vaccination reveals significant problems with both, perhaps not unremediable but very real.

[tirebiter]

40. Accept the walk back with proof that the vaccination actually happened

The point is to get people vaccinated.

[Renew Deal]

41. Probably keep him.

It's the typical thing... Do you like the person or not?

[Bucky]

43. I'm not interested in punishing people. I want to save people

Raise your hand if you never needed a second chance in life, if you never had to come back from a fuck up

[Demovictory9]

45. good point

[Celerity]

48. As long as he shows VALID proof of vaccination, I would keep him on. The big picture point is to get

people to vax up.

[rockfordfile]

50. I wouldn't trust that person.

Would you trust a person that "got vaccinated" now only to keep his job? We're in August. Thousands of Americans are dead.

[Roisin Ni Fiachra]

51. If he worships TFG, let him go.

Cult members have poor judgment, are not trustworthy, and are generally downright dangerous.

If he's not a TFG cult member, give him a break, and forgive his momentary lack of reason.