How are Vaccines (supposedly) dangerous?

[Mad_Machine76]

I got into it with a reportedly pregnant and nursing woman about the Covid vaccine with her saying she wouldn’t take it because she says it’s dangerous. Basically, the main argument being used is that it hasn’t been out long enough to be trusted but in all seriousness out of all of the people vaxxed to date exactly how many people have had serious and/or fatal responses to the vaccine? I feel like if people were getting hospitalized or dying it’s not something the media would keep hushed up or anything. What is everybody hearing about why some people are insisting it is so dangerous- so much so that they will risk Covid to avoid getting it?!

[LisaL]

1. Anti-vaxxers have all kind of conspiracy theories going.

Arguing with people like this seems futile.
And while they think vaccines are dangerous, many anti-vaxxers are perfectly willing to take un-approved horse medicine.
What does that tell you?

[Ocelot II]

2. Millions of people all over the world have received it, in some form.

They (we) are not dropping dead. The only side effect is not getting covid. The science behind the mRNA vaccines has been in development for at least a decade, and coronaviruses have been the subject of research for far longer. It is not new science, merely a new application. Since field trials started over a year ago, and many millions have been vaccinated since, if there were significant adverse affects wouldn't we know about them by now? Wouldn't people be keeling over in the streets, or developing unexplained rashes or organ failures or impotence or chronic diarrhea or something? All that's happening to us is we're not getting covid.

[dchill]

3. On the other hand, Trumpism has been out plenty long...

...for any moron to know it's dangerous. Same for antivax.

[marble falls]

4. I don't know, but I haven't lost my key since I got vaxxed - always there, right on my forehead.

[LisaL]

7. Very useful feature of the vaccines.

[RockRaven]

5. tHeY cHaNgE yOuR dNa!!!

There are assholes and idiots out there who are telling people that the mRNA vaccines will change your genes. And people are believing and/or repeating that.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

8. Let me count the ways.

I was asking one of the Cult members because I'm trying to deprogram them.
Unfortunately, there is not a site that I have found that targets each one of these concerns.


1. They want to reduce the population, and vaccines is the method to achieve that.

2. The vaccine will cause the immune system to become unbalanced and then later, when you actually catch COVID, you will die. Many think this will happen to most of us within the next 3 years.

3. The rDNA goes to important organs and tissues, such as the brain and when the spike proteins are generated in these areas, damaging inflammation occurs.

4. According to one doctor, most of his vaccinated patients show a poor result on a test, I think it is called "d-dimer", that indicates that the vaccinated have produced blood clots.
It may have been said that the blood vessel linings themselves create spikes that then stick out and block the blood cells from making their way through.

5. They think the vaccinated can spread the dangerous spike proteins to others.

6. They site a doctor that was controversial in the past and who now publishes books and does interviews about her belief that vaccines are dangerous.

7. They believe that supposedly 'reliable" sources are really compromised and so disseminate disinformation.
They say only listen to those that are not tied to institutional money and whos jobs depend on it.

8+ They believe there were previous approval problems, along with reports of injuries and the underreporting of injuries.
They site that liability has been removed from COVID manufacturers. Claim failure in previous animal studies.
Increases in autoimmune diseases. Contaminates in the vaccine. etc etc etc

[UTUSN]

9. Saw 4 nurses-refusers interview - main "reason" years vetting not done, long term effects not known

When the reporter said facts are there, their "argument" was, "ARE they?!" - not an argument.

[Solly Mack]

10. I was good to go until parts of my car began to pop off and stick to me.

Try telling USAA the vaccine did it.

Farmers might cover it but I got no relief.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

11. Chips

Did anybody notice that there is suddenly a chip shortage?

[Earth-shine]

16. It's been going on for many months.

I've been wanting to upgrade my graphics card, but the prices of high-end units are crazy.

[KentuckyWoman]

12. We don't know if 15 years from now

They find out it causes
Ringworm
Itchy feet
Teen acne
Hairy pits
Flatulence
Arthritis
Dementia
Twitches
Bunions
Excessive ear wax
Death
Blindness
Purple toes
Kidney stones
Adultery
Teh Gay
Abortion
Bible verse memory issues

The inability to enjoy these hot dogs wrapped in bacon and dipped in cheese.

[Thunderbeast]

13. A large percent of resisters

are simply afraid of the needle. I have no proof, but just a hunch.

If the vaccine were a pill or a drop on s sugar cube (like Sabin Polio Vaccine), there would be no conversation.

Just opinion, mind you.

My nephew was at a college where a meningitis outbreak happened. Everyone on campus was required to get a preventative shot. Grown men and women were standing in puddles of their own tears from fear while waiting in line.

[LeftInTX]

14. The stuff has been going on since the cowpox thing..LOL

I wasn't around back then, but there were rumors that the smallpox vaccine would turn you into a cow!

Then, rumors spread that the smallpox vaccine went against "God's Laws"...

In the 19th Century, medical marvels continued to progress...(anesthesia for example) yet a small population resisted the smallpox vaccine.

It's amazing that smallpox was even eradicated...



https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/Ql0ePIy_nesFbn_p1Aq-EAyUqN8=/0x76:1093x691/976x549/media/img/mt/2015/07/antivaccination/original.jpg

The dewy chill over Leicester, England, in March 1885 did not deter thousands of protesters from gathering outside nearby York Castle to protest the imprisonment of seven activists. Organizers claimed as many as 100,000 people attended, although historians estimate it was closer to 20,000.

The cause they rallied against? Vaccination.

This movement has faded from popular memory, obscured by the controversy of more recent anti-vaccination efforts, which gained momentum in the 1990s. However, the effects of the Victorian anti-vaccination movement still echo in the debate over the personal belief exemption, which was banned in California in June.

On the day the Leicester protesters gathered, vaccination was mandatory in England. Nearly a century before, Edward Jenner, a Scottish physician, had invented a method of protecting people against the raging threat of smallpox. The treatment was called variolation, and it involved voluntary infection with a similar disease. Patients were given cowpox to protect them against the much deadlier smallpox, much the way parents long exposed their children to chicken pox to protect them from getting sicker from the illness later in life. (Today pediatricians recommend the chicken pox vaccine instead.)
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/07/victorian-anti-vaccinators-personal-belief-exemption/398321/

[BusterMove]

15. VAERS

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

[Earth-shine]

17. I've been much happier since being vaxxed. Bill Gates makes all my decisions for me.

I have a strange urge to upgrade my MS Windows.