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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,724 posts)
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 07:25 PM Aug 2021

Why the FDA Hasn't Approved a COVID Shot yet When Millions Are Vaccinated

On August 11, eight months will have passed since the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted its first emergency use authorization (EUA) for a COVID vaccine.

Since December 11, 2020, 164.8 million U.S. citizens have been fully vaccinated with either both doses of the Pfizer or Moderna COVID vaccines, or one of Johnson & Johnson's to help protect them from the disease.

Yet the FDA still has not approved any of the currently available COVID vaccines for use. The U.S.' vaccine rollout has relied, and continues to rely, upon the FDA's speedy but temporary EUA process. An EUA is a mechanism that the FDA can use to allow a non-approved medical product to be used in the event of a public health emergency such as the COVID pandemic.

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Newsweek contacted the FDA to ask if and when it believes COVID vaccines will be approved.

The agency pointed Newsweek to a series of tweets shared by acting FDA commissioner Dr. Janet Woodcock, where she said a goal date of January 2022 for FDA approval of the Pfizer vaccine had been set, and that the agency intended to complete its review of Pfizer's application "far in advance" of this.

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Herschel Nachlis, a policy fellow at the Rockefeller Center for Public Policy at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, told Newsweek: "Many people feel like the FDA is taking a long time to fully approve COVID vaccines.

"But it's worth recognizing that most vaccines usually take many years if not decades to develop and get approved."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/why-the-fda-hasnt-approved-a-covid-shot-yet-when-millions-are-vaccinated/ar-AAMQIaZ

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LisaL

(44,972 posts)
3. I guess we shouldn't expect boosters any time soon.
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 07:34 PM
Aug 2021

Meanwhile other countries are already giving them out.

ProfessorGAC

(64,830 posts)
2. Blah, Blah, Blah
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 07:31 PM
Aug 2021
Herschel Nachlis, a policy fellow at the Rockefeller Center for Public Policy at Dartmouth College in New Hampshire, told Newsweek: "Many people feel like the FDA is taking a long time to fully approve COVID vaccines.

"But it's worth recognizing that most vaccines usually take many years if not decades to develop and get approved."

Nonsense! First, the ability to make finely tuned vaccines is light speed compared to 30, 50, 70 years ago. The " usually" is already out the window.
Second, vaccines in the past were as fast tracked as the technology, including statistical analysis, would allow. Today a statistician can do in the seconds what took 2 days in 1950. Comparing prior vaccines to the mRNA versions is specious.
Third, there is an ongoing public health crisis, so the time standards of the past are irrelevant.

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
4. Israel, Germany and the UK are now offering the Pfizer booster. I wonder when they'll do a
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 07:35 PM
Aug 2021

EUA on that ? Next year?

BumRushDaShow

(128,411 posts)
11. Pfizer didn't submit their final approval package until May
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:37 PM
Aug 2021
Pfizer Seeking Full FDA Approval for COVID Vaccine

By Ralph Ellis


May 10, 2021 -- Pfizer and its European partner BioNTech are seeking the FDA’s full approval for their COVID-19 vaccine, which is already being widely administered in the United States under an emergency use authorization.

If the FDA says yes, Pfizer would be the first COVID vaccine to gain full approval in the United States.

In a news release, Pfizer said it will initiate a Biologics License Application and submit information to the FDA on a rolling basis over the coming weeks. The vaccine application is only for people 16 and over.

Pfizer says it’s seeking a priority review, which the FDA defines as “a 6-month review of the entire BLA rather than the usual 10-month review.”

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210510/pfizer-seeking-full-fda-approval-for-covid-vaccine


And like Moderna, they are submitting data on a "rolling basis".

The EUA approval doesn't really count in the time clock for review although obviously there will be a data overlap for what was submitted for the EUA and what was submitted for the final approval (probably with any corrections/updates from the earlier submissions).

Pfizer also noted this about their submission -

Pfizer and BioNTech initiated the BLA by submitting the nonclinical and clinical data needed to support licensure of the COVID-19 vaccine for use in individuals 16 years of age and older. This includes the most recent analyses from the pivotal Phase 3 clinical trial, where the vaccine’s efficacy and favorable safety profile were observed up to six months after the second dose. The companies will submit the required manufacturing and facility data for licensure in the coming weeks to complete the BLA.

Pfizer and BioNTech also have submitted an application to expand the current EUA for their COVID-19 vaccine to include individuals 12 to 15 years of age. The companies intend to submit a supplemental BLA to support licensure of the vaccine in this age group once the required data six months after the second vaccine dose are available.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-initiate-rolling-submission-biologics


There was a recent news item that FDA is basically now in "all hands on deck" mode - https://www.statnews.com/2021/07/30/fda-under-pressure-plans-sprint-to-accelerate-review-of-pfizers-covid-19-vaccine-for-full-approval/

And from that above link (and something I have noted in other posts) you have this -

The process requires FDA staff to review millions of pages of complex data, conduct plant inspections, and negotiate with Pfizer over issues including the terms of the FDA’s approved label and the company’s postmarketing responsibilities.


They have to do final cGMP inspections of the plants, look at the sterility, batch records (and probably collect samples and have them analyzed), look at the written testing criteria and equipment calibrations, the employee training, and what will be new is that the final product labeling will need to be reviewed, including even something that became an issue early on, like the doses per vial. That's because as some might recall, in an effort to get more doses out quicker, there were evaluations of extracting an additional dose from a vial using the normal overfill amount, and determining/ensuring that the last dose extracted would have the same amount of the substance as the first dose -

Health
Labeling confusion led to wasted doses of Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in first days of rollout

By Olivia Goldhill Dec. 16, 2020

With the Covid-19 vaccine in short supply, hospital pharmacists found themselves in the unexpected position of throwing away one in every six doses of the first Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines distributed this week in the United States. The confusion came over labeling: The vaccine comes in vials labeled as containing enough for five doses. But pharmacists discovered that, after thawing and mixing the contents with a diluent, each vial contained enough vaccine for six doses. Without explicit approval from the manufacturer, that final dose had to be discarded.

“It was overtly clear early on there’s some extra volume,” said Russell Findlay, pharmacy manager at University of Utah Health. His colleagues called Pfizer on Tuesday to ask if they could use the extra dose, said Findlay, but the company wouldn’t give a definitive answer. Pharmacists and executives at several health care systems said they didn’t feel they could risk using the extra dose, especially as Pfizer’s vaccine requires two doses, 21 days apart, to be effective. “We’re not fully confident of our future supply. Let’s say we use the six but we get fewer doses in the future, we might not have enough for the second dose,” said Findlay. “We need to be very cautious in managing that supply.”

Across the country in Boston, Paul Biddinger, medical director for emergency preparedness at Mass General Brigham, said he’d heard of the extra doses from the British vaccine rollout earlier this month. Despite being prepared, his team still had to throw out the additional doses on the first day of distribution. In Texas, the extra doses were discarded on the first day of distribution but, by Wednesday morning, Houston Methodist Hospital chief executive Roberta Schwartz said her team heard from Pfizer that it was okay to use what’s in the vial.

Finally, on Wednesday afternoon, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration updated its guidance, saying health care providers should feel free to use all the full doses within each vial. “At this time, given the public health emergency, FDA is advising that it is acceptable to use every full dose obtainable (the sixth, or possibly even a seventh) from each vial, pending resolution of the issue,” spokesperson Abigail Capobianco wrote in an email to STAT. But any spare half doses should not be combined with half doses from other vials to create a whole one, she added.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/12/16/labeling-confusion-led-to-wasted-doses-of-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-in-first-days-of-rollout/


What else is new is approval of how they will market the product (which is really the main difference between full approval and an EUA), including their brochures and whatever info is being put in them as well as any other labeling (on the vials, on the boxes that contain the vials, and on what is often a huge insert (folded up) that would accompany the product, with info on contraindications and other things, and since the vaccine gets diluted, any final instructions on prep).

FakeNoose

(32,568 posts)
12. Clinical testing has to follow a procedure, they can't skip a few rules
Mon Aug 2, 2021, 08:43 PM
Aug 2021

Tests results must be checked and retested, reviewed, etc. This is what scientists do for a living, this is their livelihood.

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