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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:57 AM Aug 2021

How Mainstream Dems Dispatched a Progressive Hero in Ohio

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-mainstream-democrats-dispatched-progressive-hero-nina-turner-in-ohio?ref=scroll


How Mainstream Dems Dispatched a Progressive Hero in Ohio
REVOLUTION POSTPONED
The belief that Bernie Sanders surrogate Nina Turner disrespected mainstream Democrats, including Black Democrats, set alarm bells ringing—and they went to work.
Eleanor Clift
Updated Aug. 04, 2021 3:00AM ET / Published Aug. 04, 2021 1:32AM ET
opinion


It’s rare that a special election in August carries as much weight as Tuesday’s race in Ohio pitting Nina Turner, a hero to progressives and a fierce promoter of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), Medicare for All, and the Green New Deal, against Shontel Brown, a local office holder with an undistinguished record but with the firepower of the Congressional Black Caucus behind her, along with the endorsement of Hillary Clinton and other national Democrats.

Turner entered the race as the frontrunner who, if she won, could affect the delicate balance among congressional Democrats and its two wings. She speaks her mind sometimes in offensive language and she readily turns her fury on Democrats who don’t embrace her wing of the party. A furious backlash sparked by the CBC put an end to Turner’s aspirations.

Brown won with 50.4 percent of the vote to Turner’s 44 percent. Turner’s potential win had sounded alarm bells for the Biden agenda and for the ability of the Democratic Party to maintain the unity needed to squeeze legislation out of a closely divided Congress. Mainstream Democrats anchored by the CBC went into action to thwart Turner and promote Brown, a member of the Cuyahoga County Council whose public service the Cleveland Plain Dealer described as “pleasant but undistinguished” in its endorsement of Turner.

The 11th District in Ohio is a safe Democratic seat, and Brown will fill the seat vacated by Marcia Fudge, who resigned to join the Biden Cabinet as housing secretary. The race laid bare the ideological differences within the party and within the Congressional Black Caucus, but Brown’s win should underscore for progressives that once again, when put to the test, the revolution is not yet here, the Midwest is not a Bernie stronghold, and Democrats not living on either coast tend to be more Biden traditionalists.

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Turner stood by seeming to agree at a late June rally when the rapper Killer Mike said Clyburn was “stupid for not cutting a deal with Biden for his endorsement.” He mocked Clyburn for allegedly settling for Juneteenth as a federal holiday after delivering the presidency to Biden. Being called stupid by a rapper touting Turner is what drew Clyburn into the race. “I personally got involved… when I was invited by the Turner campaign,” Clyburn told The State newspaper in Columbia, South Carolina. “[They] talked about my stupidity for endorsing Joe Biden, and I just kind of decided if I’m going to be stupid, might as well be stupid.”
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How Mainstream Dems Dispatched a Progressive Hero in Ohio (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2021 OP
Love Rep. Clyburn's response! Nt spooky3 Aug 2021 #1
An iron fist inside a velvet glove..... OnDoutside Aug 2021 #4
I was just going to say: what a very elegant response to such Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #5
... you described both perfectly! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #7
I went and found this to explain more fully who Clyburn is and what their involvement was. abqtommy Aug 2021 #2
Ms. Clift Mis-spelled 'Fact', Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2021 #3
Thank you... there's nothing subjective about that at all. Indeed it IS a fact! NurseJackie Aug 2021 #6
Don't tangle with Rep. Jim Clyburn. nt oasis Aug 2021 #8
It's like tugging on Superman's cape DFW Aug 2021 #13
Calling Turner a "hero of progressives" is an exaggeration. Renew Deal Aug 2021 #9
Well, tell that to babylonsister Aug 2021 #10
Given the chance, I would have. DFW Aug 2021 #12
I had the same reaction DFW Aug 2021 #11
I agree. Renew Deal Aug 2021 #16
Biden's agenda and legislation is very progressive Deminpenn Aug 2021 #14
Terrible headline, she is no hero of any type. lark Aug 2021 #15

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
2. I went and found this to explain more fully who Clyburn is and what their involvement was.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:01 AM
Aug 2021

(I often do this when I feel that I need to understand something more fully.)

"The most senior CBC (Congressional Black Caucus) member in Congress—House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn—got personally involved, too. At a June event with Turner, rapper and activist Killer Mike suggested it was “stupid” for Clyburn to have endorsed Biden in the presidential primary when all he got out of it was making Juneteenth a federal holiday, a sentiment which Turner—who had been trying to show off how she could work with people she’s had harsh words for in the past—appeared to approve. Clyburn endorsed Brown shortly after, and didn’t hide that the remark set him off."

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/08/nina-turner-shontel-brown-ohio-11-sanders-clinton-cbc.html

This reply is not a criticism of the original op here but more an admission that I'm often ignorant
but not for long. Maybe someone else needs to be reminded too.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
3. Ms. Clift Mis-spelled 'Fact', Ma'am
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:02 AM
Aug 2021

She seems to think it is spelled b,e,l,i,e,f, and it is not. It is a simple, four letter word, 'fact', that ought to used more often by even veteran commentators.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
6. Thank you... there's nothing subjective about that at all. Indeed it IS a fact!
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:33 AM
Aug 2021
Yes. Let's fix that: The b̶e̶l̶i̶e̶f̶ FACT that Bernie Sanders surrogate Nina Turner disrespected mainstream Democrats, including Black Democrats, set alarm bells ringing—and they went to work.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
9. Calling Turner a "hero of progressives" is an exaggeration.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:24 AM
Aug 2021

She had fans in the camp that generally dislikes the Democratic Party. That hardly made her anyone’s hero.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
12. Given the chance, I would have.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:45 AM
Aug 2021

I don't know AOC, and I haven’t seen or spoken to Bob Reich in ten years or more, but that’s just what I would have told them, given the chance.

DFW

(54,358 posts)
11. I had the same reaction
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:38 AM
Aug 2021

Inasmuch as the election of Nina Turner to the House would probably have had a negative effect on the Biden agenda, I’d be more in lined to call her regressive than progressive. She can paint herself with whatever label she likes, but wading into the ocean doesn’t necessarily make you a fish.

Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
16. I agree.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:26 AM
Aug 2021

She’d be getting headlines for trashing Biden. She’d get positive press from Russia like Gabbard did. And she would likely trash almost every Democratic candidate when she ran for president.

Deminpenn

(15,278 posts)
14. Biden's agenda and legislation is very progressive
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:56 AM
Aug 2021

in case you haven't noticed. It's overwhelmingly popular, too.

In Turner's case, jmho, she's just a bomb thrower, not a person serious about legislating. She wasn't an appealing candidate at all.

As for AOC, she's doing what a progressive legislator should do, pushing back when necessary and doing the hard work of moving the entire party leftward. No one thought of Joe Biden as more than a centrist, moderate, deal-maker, but here we are with some of the most progressive programs and ideas taking center stage and moving toward being enacted into law since FDR's New Deal.

lark

(23,094 posts)
15. Terrible headline, she is no hero of any type.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:13 AM
Aug 2021

She steadfastly opposes every Democratic candidate as not pure enough, unlike her and Jill Stein.

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