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Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:10 PM Aug 2021

Can you name any successful conservative comedians?

I think that Trump suspended all White House Press Corp roasts during the time he infested the White House. My guess is the only thing that he burst into laughter over was watching January 6th unfold.

Conservatives are the butt of many comedian's jokes. But can anyone name one conservative comedian who's actually funny? Or any conservative comedian at all?

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Can you name any successful conservative comedians? (Original Post) Cyrano Aug 2021 OP
Back in the day... Bob Hope hlthe2b Aug 2021 #1
Two minds with but a single thought. secondwind Aug 2021 #4
Did Bob Hope do overtly politically based humor? irisblue Aug 2021 #11
only mild stuff... Nothing biting. hlthe2b Aug 2021 #12
He satired both sides LeftInTX Aug 2021 #59
Except Bob Hope wasn't funny. bif Aug 2021 #80
My parents (and their generation) loved him. And, I loved my parents. n/t hlthe2b Aug 2021 #81
I liked him OK LeftInTX Aug 2021 #87
Wasn't Bob Hope a conservative? secondwind Aug 2021 #2
Bob Hope died in 2003 and wasn't active for decades before that Cyrano Aug 2021 #24
RSO rso Aug 2021 #3
He has a show on Russia Today TV. zuul Aug 2021 #21
I doubt that's ideology. Probably desperation for a buck. Bucky Aug 2021 #72
Roseanne Barr, whatever you may think of her, Sogo Aug 2021 #5
Is she funny now? viva la Aug 2021 #8
The question was "successful". maxsolomon Aug 2021 #13
Yeah, I haven't seen her on TV much. viva la Aug 2021 #32
She was successful and she wasn't a conservative at the time of that successful. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #33
How old is she now? frogmarch Aug 2021 #42
She was a liberal when she was funny JI7 Aug 2021 #61
There was that Miller guy. Dennis? viva la Aug 2021 #6
I've heard other people answer this question with "Tim Allen" but I don't actually know how RockRaven Aug 2021 #7
He's Not A Drooler ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #22
Tim Allen has been doing the same shtick since the mid 90's alphafemale Aug 2021 #41
Yeah, I Buy That ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #44
I always wanted to ask him MurrayDelph Aug 2021 #63
I can name a few who are "comedians", but not LuckyCharms Aug 2021 #9
Successful? Lots of them. They shouldn't be too hard to find. NT mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2021 #10
Wasn't Rodney Dangerfield a conservative? Polybius Aug 2021 #14
Jackie Mason was. underpants Aug 2021 #15
Not sure if he's a comedian XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #16
He tells jokes. He does characters. Sure he's a comic Bucky Aug 2021 #17
I can't think of any who were successful *as* "conservative comedians"... JHB Aug 2021 #18
Yes, I like Patricia Heaton in Everybody Loves Raymond LeftInTX Aug 2021 #50
Tim Allen, Jackie Mason, Drew Carey was but I think he's toned it down underpants Aug 2021 #19
Norm MacDonald Bucky Aug 2021 #20
Well... Dr. Strange Aug 2021 #37
have you seen his Netflix talk show? I used to get the same impression you mention, though fishwax Aug 2021 #38
Yes, more libertarian . JI7 Aug 2021 #62
Patricia Heaton lame54 Aug 2021 #23
Yes, she's pretty good as an actress LeftInTX Aug 2021 #46
She's kinda nutso in interviews... lame54 Aug 2021 #49
Bill Burr Renew Deal Aug 2021 #25
He's middle of the road, but whenever he argues with Joe Rogan... Bucky Aug 2021 #70
A little conservative, on some things, but overall Wingus Dingus Aug 2021 #93
I guess I need to know what you mean by successful TlalocW Aug 2021 #26
Greg Gutfeld maybe. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #27
Greg Gutfeld Celerity Aug 2021 #30
Carson was fairly liberal. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #34
If you mean Johnny Carson, he was a hard-core liberal Greybnk48 Aug 2021 #95
Greg Gutfeld has two shows daily on FOX News. Midnight Writer Aug 2021 #39
He laughs at his own jokes GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #54
Gutfeld is a comedian??? LeftInTX Aug 2021 #53
I try to not hate anyone because hate is such a destructive emotion. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #85
Jeff Dunham is bent to the right. NCjack Aug 2021 #28
Larry the Cable Guy? Bettie Aug 2021 #29
He's not funny LeftInTX Aug 2021 #48
No, but he's successful Bettie Aug 2021 #56
I think Ron White is very funny LNM Aug 2021 #31
I get the feeling he's socially conservative, but not politically Bucky Aug 2021 #71
There are plenty of comedians who appeal to conservatives. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #35
Foxworthy is very christian right... lame54 Aug 2021 #51
He may personally be a Trump supporter but I don't think he ever did political humor. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #60
Jeff Foxworthy has been successful with country satire mvd Aug 2021 #36
Yes, he's good and he's politically conservative LeftInTX Aug 2021 #47
Conservative comedians tend to "punch down" alphafemale Aug 2021 #40
Victoria Jackson - but she flounced and raged her way out of successful alphafemale Aug 2021 #43
She was funny on SNL, but I haven't been following her lately LeftInTX Aug 2021 #52
She's another talented stage persona who imploded careerwise Bucky Aug 2021 #73
Jackson attended Florida Bible College after graduating from HS LeftInTX Aug 2021 #88
Jay Leno, but I always found him creepy. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #45
nah, Leno is definitely not a conservative fishwax Aug 2021 #58
I disagree, he openly faved Republicans on his show the one or three times I saw one, usually ShazamIam Aug 2021 #76
I've heard of conservative comedians with successful character acting careers... haele Aug 2021 #55
Kelsey Grammer was great in Frazier but I'm not sure how much of it was his material. jalan48 Aug 2021 #57
All of it MurrayDelph Aug 2021 #65
Thanks-I thought he had something to do with the production of the show. jalan48 Aug 2021 #66
Any "producer" title he may have on a show MurrayDelph Aug 2021 #67
Thanks-I know nothing about Hollywood and will check out the podcasts. jalan48 Aug 2021 #69
I wrote this about a year ago re: right wing creativity Roland99 Aug 2021 #64
Bill Cosby. Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #68
Conservatives are too stupid to be funny LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #74
Dennis Miller and Joe Piscopo BumRushDaShow Aug 2021 #75
What are Jay Leno's and Conan O'Brien's politics? Polybius Aug 2021 #77
Jay Leno is pretty liberal. Aristus Aug 2021 #82
That's good to hear Polybius Aug 2021 #83
Joe Rogan probably. Calista241 Aug 2021 #78
He supported Sanders last year though Polybius Aug 2021 #84
like a lot of people, his attachment is emotional, not ideological Bucky Aug 2021 #92
Joan Rivers Leith Aug 2021 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Aug 2021 #86
With the exception of his novelty songs, is he funny? LeftInTX Aug 2021 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Aug 2021 #91
Larry Miller? Colin Quinn used to be a bit right-wingie. maveric Aug 2021 #90
Change 'successful' to funny and the answer is but a few uponit7771 Aug 2021 #94

irisblue

(32,931 posts)
11. Did Bob Hope do overtly politically based humor?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:17 PM
Aug 2021

I realize he did the traditionally 20th century misogynist homophobic stage stuff.

LeftInTX

(25,137 posts)
87. I liked him OK
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:12 PM
Aug 2021

He had sensory issues when he got older, which made a dent in his comedy routines...

Apparently, he couldn't see well and lost his sense of timing etc...I think this was in the 70's...
He could host events, but with his vision issues etc, it was hard to have that dry humor...


I never like the "Road to ........" movies...Those were stupid and corny

Cyrano

(15,027 posts)
24. Bob Hope died in 2003 and wasn't active for decades before that
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:31 PM
Aug 2021

It's possible that many on DU never heard of him. Mention Hope and many think it's a Cape at the southern tip of South Africa.

zuul

(14,624 posts)
21. He has a show on Russia Today TV.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:30 PM
Aug 2021

‘Dennis Miller Plus One.’ I shit you not. It’s on right now.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
72. I doubt that's ideology. Probably desperation for a buck.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:06 PM
Aug 2021

There's probably even a part of him that knows he's being used by people who want to weaken our country. I imagine he rationalizes it by saying he needs the money and the gig would have gone to someone else if he had said no.

Such a waste. Dennis Miller is really brilliant. But having money and a brief taste of success for a while, then losing a lot of it, and being an insecure male has not let him play to his strengths in his career.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
5. Roseanne Barr, whatever you may think of her,
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:14 PM
Aug 2021

is/has been a successful comedienne and is a major Trumpster.

viva la

(3,272 posts)
32. Yeah, I haven't seen her on TV much.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:10 PM
Aug 2021

She probably gets a lot of $ from residuals from her old show.

I remember she was married to Tom Arnold, who I think used to be a "conservative comedian", but isn't very conservative now.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
33. She was successful and she wasn't a conservative at the time of that successful.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:14 PM
Aug 2021

So, no, Roseanne doesn't fit the question because she's not really been successful as a conservative comedian.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
42. How old is she now?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:58 PM
Aug 2021

Years ago she said that when people reach the age of 60, they should do the government a favor and commit suicide.

viva la

(3,272 posts)
6. There was that Miller guy. Dennis?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:15 PM
Aug 2021

But I think he stopped being funny.

I think most comedians have to be kind of free thinkers,skeptical. So they might tend to be liberal because those are valued in liberalism.

RockRaven

(14,906 posts)
7. I've heard other people answer this question with "Tim Allen" but I don't actually know how
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:16 PM
Aug 2021

conservative he is, because I don't watch any of his stuff.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
22. He's Not A Drooler
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:31 PM
Aug 2021

But, he's very much the low taxes solve everything & it used to be better in the past type.
He & Richard Karn are still pretty good friends and Karn was thought of as very liberal.
Successful he is for sure. Funny? His early standup stuff was very much so. His character on Last Man Standing, not so much.
Funny is in the ear of the beholder.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
41. Tim Allen has been doing the same shtick since the mid 90's
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:57 PM
Aug 2021

People got bored with it and he complains that it is because of his politics.

If he can live off his Tool Time royalties he is doing something wrong, because that seems to be on somewhere 24 hours a day.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
44. Yeah, I Buy That
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:03 PM
Aug 2021

And he's not a raving lunatic about politics.
So, that has nothing to do with his star fading.
It's just got stale.

MurrayDelph

(5,292 posts)
63. I always wanted to ask him
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:13 PM
Aug 2021

"Did you change your politics after you were hired?", but I never met him when I lived in L.A. My wife did, sorta; there was a car trying to get out of a gas station, and after waving him in ahead of her she noticed it was Tim Allen.

XanaDUer2

(10,554 posts)
16. Not sure if he's a comedian
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:27 PM
Aug 2021

there's a ventriloquist Jeff Dunham, with a real shtick show. I watched a bit, turned it off. He's mega successful

JHB

(37,157 posts)
18. I can't think of any who were successful *as* "conservative comedians"...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:29 PM
Aug 2021

...but there are a number who became successful but on,y highlighted their conservatism after their success. Usually at an age where they become crotchety assholes and don't feel a need to hide it anymore.

LeftInTX

(25,137 posts)
50. Yes, I like Patricia Heaton in Everybody Loves Raymond
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:34 PM
Aug 2021

She's got good timing etc, but I don't remember anything about her political leanings in Everybody Loves Raymond

underpants

(182,626 posts)
19. Tim Allen, Jackie Mason, Drew Carey was but I think he's toned it down
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:29 PM
Aug 2021

Funny, on vacation one day we just happened to watch the Price is Right. My mother in law couldn’t go to the beach and it was like a way back machine for us. Drew barely even half asses it as host. One guy lost a chance at a car but got $184. Drew said “Hey, you’ve got some pocket change”.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
20. Norm MacDonald
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:30 PM
Aug 2021

I don't think he's harshly conservative, or strongly political. But from time to time you pick up hints that he's more responsive to conservative messaging, or libertarian economics.

As for comedy, he's a god.

fishwax

(29,148 posts)
38. have you seen his Netflix talk show? I used to get the same impression you mention, though
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:39 PM
Aug 2021

watching the netflix show made me reconsider it for some reason. (Although I guess now that I think about it this was more along social issues than econmic ones.)

Anyway, if you haven't seen it, I also thought it was really good. I'm not a huge fan of his outside of weekend update, but I found this easily among his most enjoyable work.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
70. He's middle of the road, but whenever he argues with Joe Rogan...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:54 PM
Aug 2021

... he always seems to be more on the pragmatic liberal side. He seems conservative because he's a snarky misanthrope, but more often than not he's defending PC things

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
93. A little conservative, on some things, but overall
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:43 PM
Aug 2021

a mixed bag, I think. Edit to add, he's one of my all time favorite comics.

TlalocW

(15,374 posts)
26. I guess I need to know what you mean by successful
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:32 PM
Aug 2021

Everybody's star fades - Andrew Dice Clay, Dennis Miller, Roseanne Barr. More recently I think Bill Burr falls on the conservative side. Adam Sandler makes the list for successful and well as conservative. His buddy Rob Schneider much less so for successful and comedian... Carlos Mencia steals other people's stuff and claims it as his own, which is very conservative, and he was successful for a time doing that.

TlalocW

Celerity

(43,117 posts)
30. Greg Gutfeld
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 02:48 PM
Aug 2021

I HATE that fucking pronger.

Greg Gutfeld Says Trump Supporters Are ‘Justified’ Because You Can’t Trust Elections, Sparking Chaos on The Five (Video)

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/greg-gutfeld-says-trump-supporters-are-justified-because-you-cant-trust-elections-sparking-chaos-on-the-five/

Fox News host Greg Gutfeld said President Donald Trump’s supporters are “justified” in their distrust for the media and elections during a segment on the violent attack on the United States Capitol. The remark from Gutfeld sparked a heated argument on The Five Thursday evening. “I don’t understand why calling for an audit that [Ted] Cruz and Trump wanted is a call for insurrection. It was a preventative. Because I’ve said this a thousand times, that when you remove dialogue, or conversation, or just going back and forth from the process, all you end end up with is violence,” Gutfeld said.

Trump has been accused of inciting his supporters to attack the Capitol building — which left five people dead and many more injured — by many on both sides of the aisle, including prominent Republicans like former Attorney General William Barr.

“And you have people who feel like there is no hope. I think what we’re seeing here is a lot of people with no hope,” Gutfeld continued. “There is no way to turn this back. You have millions of people who do not trust their institutions, and you know what? They are justified. You can’t trust the media, because they lie to you. You can’t trust the elections, because there is fraud!” “We don’t know how much, because every time someone brings it up, they are dismissed as conspiratorial rubes,” Gutfeld concluded. “We have to change, because it’s going to get worse before it gets better.”

Fox News contributor Juan Williams pointed out that Trump’s claims of election fraud are unproven. He cited Georgia Election official Gabriel Sterling, a Republican who debunked many of Trump’s absurd claims of fraud. “You had Gabe Sterling, a Republican election official in Georgia, go down the line and say this is wrong,” Williams before getting interrupted by Gutfeld. “He cherrypicked. He cherrypicked!” Gutfeld yelled at Williams. “You are just spouting what we’ve already heard,” Gutfeld added before the panel divulged into chaos.

snip



‘Of Course They’re Going to Cheat’: Greg Gutfeld Claims Democratic Hatred For Trump Proves Voter Fraud (Video)

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/of-course-theyre-going-to-cheat-greg-gutfeld-claims-democratic-hatred-for-trump-proves-voter-fraud/

Fox News host Greg Gutfeld blamed Democrats’ “good vs. evil” narrative about the 2020 election and defeating President Donald Trump as tantamount to proof that they would engage in widespread voter fraud — even when there is no evidence of it. During a Wednesday afternoon monologue on The Five, spurred by a discussion about the ongoing recount in Georgia, Gutfeld railed against the fact that, in two of the counties, both of which were majority Republican, several hundred extra votes for Trump had not been properly submitted by the local officials. Those votes narrowed Biden’s margin of victory, but he still leads by more than 10,000 ballots.

“That’s why you have to do the recount,” Gutfeld said, before divining a dark conspiracy in the errors found by Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State. “And all of the irregularities going one direction. We were told that there was no evidence, and now that there is evidence, now we are being told, well, yeah, there is evidence, but not enough evidence.” Of note, there is zero evidence of voter fraud or malicious intent in the Georgia counties’ corrected ballot totals.

“So it’s not about fraud, it’s about trust,” Gutfeld added, now pivoting away from specific claims of misconduct. “The people who pushed the 4-year hoax created an environment where we can’t trust any institution anymore. And they pulled everybody in on this charade. So we can’t trust the media. We can’t even trust the FBI. We can’t trust anybody.” “Meanwhile they made this whole election a battle of good versus evil,” Gutfeld went on, boldly declaring Democrats’ hatred of Trump is proof enough that the party would be capable of conducting voter fraud to defeat him. “So of course they are going to cheat if you are up against Darth Vader Hitler, of course you are going to do it.”

Gutfeld then implied that the multi-year Mueller investigation into Russian election interference means Republicans have a lot more time they can call into question Biden’s victory. “We have only been at it for two weeks. You guys did it for four years,” the Fox hosts said. “And lastly I am sick and tired of smirking anchors, not talking about you,” Gutfeld said, gesturing to co-host Juan Williams, “…smirking anchors who call themselves news anchors who sit here and arrogantly dismiss people’s concerns, right? They are going, ‘You can’t be serious.’ They don’t even bother reporting, this is a legal means of checking on an election. So let it be that.”

snip

Midnight Writer

(21,717 posts)
39. Greg Gutfeld has two shows daily on FOX News.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:41 PM
Aug 2021

He ain't funny but a comedian with two national TV shows a day meets the definition of successful.

GoodRaisin

(8,908 posts)
54. He laughs at his own jokes
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:41 PM
Aug 2021

if that qualifies as a comedian. Otherwise I'd say he's successful as a right wing clown.

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
85. I try to not hate anyone because hate is such a destructive emotion.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 02:34 PM
Aug 2021

But when it comes to that asshole I can't help myself. And no, he is not funny to me at all but I listed him because he does have a highly rated show on FNC and he bills himself as a comedian.

Bettie

(16,076 posts)
56. No, but he's successful
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:54 PM
Aug 2021

right wingers have a different idea of humor than most people. Misogyny sells well among them.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
71. I get the feeling he's socially conservative, but not politically
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:02 PM
Aug 2021

Like on abortion & other culture war distractions, he's not on the right. But like school vouchers or deep tax cuts or social welfare programs, he'd line up with Republicans. He's definitely not a religious nut, I'd call him a whiskey & cigar conservative, a golf club conservative. Probably okay with gay marriage, but not until it quit being a political issue.

Um, that's just a guess

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
35. There are plenty of comedians who appeal to conservatives.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:22 PM
Aug 2021

Some overtly conservative and others more apolitical.

Guys like Ron White and Jeff Foxworthy likely have a much more conservative fan base than someone like Dave Chappelle. But I don't believe they're outwardly conservative or all that political in their acts.

Larry the Cable Guy is generally more political and certainly a conservative.

Tim Allen has been a known conservative for most his career and was a big Trump supporter during his first campaign. He's seen success both as a comedian and actor - starring in two hit sitcoms.

Roseanne is conservative now but absolutely was not one during the height of her success, so I won't count her. Dennis Miller also flipped but a bulk of his success came prior to that. However, unlike Roseanne, he's at least been able to build a career as a conservative comedian and seen relative niche success among the FOX News crowd but hardly at the level of success he saw in the 90s. So, I'd say he fits the bill still.

Norm MacDonald is another likely more conservative. But he's Canadian so who knows what his feelings are on American politics.

lame54

(35,264 posts)
51. Foxworthy is very christian right...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:36 PM
Aug 2021

And a trumper although it has been a while since I've heard from him

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
60. He may personally be a Trump supporter but I don't think he ever did political humor.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:18 PM
Aug 2021

Oftentimes, like with George Carlin, Foxworthy's bits are used to push a political agenda he did not make.

Like this right-wing bit that was popular on the internet a few years ago:

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/07/facebook-posts/no-evidence-jeff-foxworthy-behind-viral-facebook-p/

As for him being a Trump supporter - I wouldn't doubt it with his style of humor. But I doubt he's lobbing too many political jokes.

And that's the difference, I guess.

I actually do find popular conservative comedians focus more on observational humor than social critics like Carlin or Chappelle, who identified as liberal, or more left-leaning. Why? I don't know. Probably because even they'd admit their side slides into crazy (Hence, 'you might be a redneck...).

I don't know. Either way, there's not a lot of mainstream comedians who use political conservativism in their routines. They might resort to conservative commentary but it's more jabbing liberals for drinking their lattes as opposed to doing the total social deconstruction of an ideology like Carlin used to do in his routines.

Of course, as awful as this sounds, I think their core audience is too simple to understand that humor and since many of these comics are businessmen even before they're comedians, they're not going to offend by going after the low fruit that may gain the applause of their audiences - like, you know, calling Obama a Muslim traitor or something stupid. A good example of this is Roseanne, who used racist and sexist terms to describe Valerie Jarrett. It wasn't funny. It was shocking. But it didn't gain her anything. It lost her her TV show and basically has turned her into a pariah.

mvd

(65,161 posts)
36. Jeff Foxworthy has been successful with country satire
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:25 PM
Aug 2021

His political leanings align with the rest of the “conservative” country crowd, however.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
40. Conservative comedians tend to "punch down"
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:49 PM
Aug 2021

They try to at least edge up to racism and sexism and homophobia. And they also wail and moan that they are being censored and silenced from being able to go full throttle with the racism and all the nasty rest as they had been in the past.

I agree with most of the names here.

I would also add Bill Cosby. If you see a shot of the crowd from his earlier days it is nearly exclusively white, conservative looking people.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
43. Victoria Jackson - but she flounced and raged her way out of successful
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:59 PM
Aug 2021

I was stunned to learn the stupid was not an act.

LeftInTX

(25,137 posts)
52. She was funny on SNL, but I haven't been following her lately
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:37 PM
Aug 2021

Last I saw she was doing a conservative whine and that was not funny

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
73. She's another talented stage persona who imploded careerwise
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:14 PM
Aug 2021

I don't know if she ever did a stand-up act. Maybe a novelty act of some kind. I also suspect there was a lot of drug use on SNL in the '80s. Lots of hard partying powder sniffers end up going knee jerk conservative when they get off the glitter.

There's a lot of put on, surface level social rigidity that goes with the conservative mindset. Plus social conservatism feeds on social resentment, which a lot of ex drug users connect with.

I remember Robert Downey Jr wants to making some sanctimonious comment about how once you've been to prison and rehab, you can't be a real liberal anymore. It might not work for some of those shallow & naive limo liberals in upper class Hollywood. If I ever got sent up river, I would totally want John Maynard Keynes to have my back in a yard fight.

LeftInTX

(25,137 posts)
88. Jackson attended Florida Bible College after graduating from HS
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:30 PM
Aug 2021

Then she went to various other schools and the acting bug bit...

I don't get the impression that she was very stable...

I wouldn't be surprised if she was into drugs while at SNL

ShazamIam

(2,564 posts)
76. I disagree, he openly faved Republicans on his show the one or three times I saw one, usually
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:10 PM
Aug 2021

while visiting someone who liked him.

edit: add

He says he is a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, to me that means libertarian or neo-liberal and that is conservative where it counts, economics.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2013/08/06/jay-lenos-candid-remarks-about-his-personal-political-views

haele

(12,640 posts)
55. I've heard of conservative comedians with successful character acting careers...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:21 PM
Aug 2021

But if you ask if their actual jokes or stand-up is any good, I rather doubt they're any better than a stopped clock if they stray into political comedy.
As for "Edge Lord" comedy, which many conservatives like to play with - that's a dark humor that many people can't take, while others can take small amounts of if done well, and adolescents who refuse to grow up eat like ice cream because they think it shows smart and independent thinking, even though most edge comedy is cribbed from Jonathan Swift or Mark Twain, with naughty bits and cuss words thrown in.

But the real rule of comedy is that good comedy kicks up, not down. Good comedy holds a wry mirror up to folly. Good comedy also does not kiss ass.

And conservatives just can't seem to get any of that right.

Haele

MurrayDelph

(5,292 posts)
67. Any "producer" title he may have on a show
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:28 PM
Aug 2021

is a negotiated honorific they may come with (or in lieu of) extra money.

If you are interested in details of working/writing in Hollywood, I recommend the podcasts "Hollywood and Levine" and "Children of Tendu"

LetMyPeopleVote

(144,934 posts)
74. Conservatives are too stupid to be funny
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:17 PM
Aug 2021

Conservatives are bad at satire. This site is so weak and unfunny that it reminds me of this cartoon

Polybius

(15,335 posts)
77. What are Jay Leno's and Conan O'Brien's politics?
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:21 PM
Aug 2021

If they are liberal, they don't mention it like Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, and Jimmy Fallon do.

Polybius

(15,335 posts)
83. That's good to hear
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:00 AM
Aug 2021

I saw an interview where he said Johnny Carson said to him that you can joke about politics, but never show what side you’re on.

I think it was great advice, even though the aforementioned are liberal and everyone knows it. I prefer it when they keep us guessing like Leno.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
78. Joe Rogan probably.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 12:27 PM
Aug 2021

He's tried to obfuscate his political leanings, but he's a pretty conservative guy. He moved out of CA to get away from the taxes and homeless, he is a big time gun rights supporter. He likes Alex Jones and a bunch of other right wingers.

Polybius

(15,335 posts)
84. He supported Sanders last year though
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 12:02 AM
Aug 2021

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He said he like him and Tulsi the best.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
92. like a lot of people, his attachment is emotional, not ideological
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:41 PM
Aug 2021

Joe likes a strong message from a strong leader. That's why he ultimately supported Trump over Biden. He liked the strength. Biden was all policy this and effective, responsible government that. Where's the pizzazz? Where's the sexiness? Biden is gray haired and has a little shake in his voice cause he's nearly 80. All he talks about is American traditions and the rule of law. How fucking boring can you be?

Um, I quit watching Joe Rogan last year when I saw his leanings. I admire Bernie Sanders's ability to draw in independent moderate voters with his vigorous defense of the working class. But I have about zero respect for the voters who are so damn flaky that they'd go from a fighter like Bernie to a bullshit spewing con artist like Trump. Rogan is shallowness pretending to have common sense.

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LeftInTX

(25,137 posts)
89. With the exception of his novelty songs, is he funny?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 03:33 PM
Aug 2021

Guitarzan and his jungle band....
They're all you can stand....

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