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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan you name any successful conservative comedians?
I think that Trump suspended all White House Press Corp roasts during the time he infested the White House. My guess is the only thing that he burst into laughter over was watching January 6th unfold.
Conservatives are the butt of many comedian's jokes. But can anyone name one conservative comedian who's actually funny? Or any conservative comedian at all?
hlthe2b
(102,132 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)irisblue
(32,931 posts)I realize he did the traditionally 20th century misogynist homophobic stage stuff.
hlthe2b
(102,132 posts)LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)bif
(22,685 posts)At least I never thought so.
hlthe2b
(102,132 posts)LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)He had sensory issues when he got older, which made a dent in his comedy routines...
Apparently, he couldn't see well and lost his sense of timing etc...I think this was in the 70's...
He could host events, but with his vision issues etc, it was hard to have that dry humor...
I never like the "Road to ........" movies...Those were stupid and corny
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Cyrano
(15,027 posts)It's possible that many on DU never heard of him. Mention Hope and many think it's a Cape at the southern tip of South Africa.
Dennis Miller used to be funny many moons ago before he became a trumpster.
zuul
(14,624 posts)Dennis Miller Plus One. I shit you not. Its on right now.
Bucky
(53,947 posts)There's probably even a part of him that knows he's being used by people who want to weaken our country. I imagine he rationalizes it by saying he needs the money and the gig would have gone to someone else if he had said no.
Such a waste. Dennis Miller is really brilliant. But having money and a brief taste of success for a while, then losing a lot of it, and being an insecure male has not let him play to his strengths in his career.
Sogo
(4,986 posts)is/has been a successful comedienne and is a major Trumpster.
viva la
(3,272 posts)maxsolomon
(33,251 posts)She is successful.
viva la
(3,272 posts)She probably gets a lot of $ from residuals from her old show.
I remember she was married to Tom Arnold, who I think used to be a "conservative comedian", but isn't very conservative now.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)So, no, Roseanne doesn't fit the question because she's not really been successful as a conservative comedian.
frogmarch
(12,153 posts)Years ago she said that when people reach the age of 60, they should do the government a favor and commit suicide.
JI7
(89,240 posts)viva la
(3,272 posts)But I think he stopped being funny.
I think most comedians have to be kind of free thinkers,skeptical. So they might tend to be liberal because those are valued in liberalism.
RockRaven
(14,906 posts)conservative he is, because I don't watch any of his stuff.
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)But, he's very much the low taxes solve everything & it used to be better in the past type.
He & Richard Karn are still pretty good friends and Karn was thought of as very liberal.
Successful he is for sure. Funny? His early standup stuff was very much so. His character on Last Man Standing, not so much.
Funny is in the ear of the beholder.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)People got bored with it and he complains that it is because of his politics.
If he can live off his Tool Time royalties he is doing something wrong, because that seems to be on somewhere 24 hours a day.
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)And he's not a raving lunatic about politics.
So, that has nothing to do with his star fading.
It's just got stale.
MurrayDelph
(5,292 posts)"Did you change your politics after you were hired?", but I never met him when I lived in L.A. My wife did, sorta; there was a car trying to get out of a gas station, and after waving him in ahead of her she noticed it was Tim Allen.
LuckyCharms
(17,413 posts)even remotely funny.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,308 posts)Polybius
(15,335 posts)I know Jackie Mason was.
underpants
(182,626 posts)Not sure bout Rodney.
XanaDUer2
(10,554 posts)there's a ventriloquist Jeff Dunham, with a real shtick show. I watched a bit, turned it off. He's mega successful
Bucky
(53,947 posts)It's kind of funny.
JHB
(37,157 posts)...but there are a number who became successful but on,y highlighted their conservatism after their success. Usually at an age where they become crotchety assholes and don't feel a need to hide it anymore.
LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)She's got good timing etc, but I don't remember anything about her political leanings in Everybody Loves Raymond
underpants
(182,626 posts)Funny, on vacation one day we just happened to watch the Price is Right. My mother in law couldnt go to the beach and it was like a way back machine for us. Drew barely even half asses it as host. One guy lost a chance at a car but got $184. Drew said Hey, youve got some pocket change.
Bucky
(53,947 posts)I don't think he's harshly conservative, or strongly political. But from time to time you pick up hints that he's more responsive to conservative messaging, or libertarian economics.
As for comedy, he's a god.
Dr. Strange
(25,917 posts)Or so the Germans would have us believe.
Norm is my favorite!
fishwax
(29,148 posts)watching the netflix show made me reconsider it for some reason. (Although I guess now that I think about it this was more along social issues than econmic ones.)
Anyway, if you haven't seen it, I also thought it was really good. I'm not a huge fan of his outside of weekend update, but I found this easily among his most enjoyable work.
JI7
(89,240 posts)lame54
(35,264 posts)LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)lame54
(35,264 posts)But she has 2 great series under her belt
Renew Deal
(81,847 posts)Bucky
(53,947 posts)... he always seems to be more on the pragmatic liberal side. He seems conservative because he's a snarky misanthrope, but more often than not he's defending PC things
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)a mixed bag, I think. Edit to add, he's one of my all time favorite comics.
TlalocW
(15,374 posts)Everybody's star fades - Andrew Dice Clay, Dennis Miller, Roseanne Barr. More recently I think Bill Burr falls on the conservative side. Adam Sandler makes the list for successful and well as conservative. His buddy Rob Schneider much less so for successful and comedian... Carlos Mencia steals other people's stuff and claims it as his own, which is very conservative, and he was successful for a time doing that.
TlalocW
totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)Also back in the day Johnny Carson.
Celerity
(43,117 posts)I HATE that fucking pronger.
Greg Gutfeld Says Trump Supporters Are Justified Because You Cant Trust Elections, Sparking Chaos on The Five (Video)
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/greg-gutfeld-says-trump-supporters-are-justified-because-you-cant-trust-elections-sparking-chaos-on-the-five/
Fox News host Greg Gutfeld said President Donald Trumps supporters are justified in their distrust for the media and elections during a segment on the violent attack on the United States Capitol. The remark from Gutfeld sparked a heated argument on The Five Thursday evening. I dont understand why calling for an audit that [Ted] Cruz and Trump wanted is a call for insurrection. It was a preventative. Because Ive said this a thousand times, that when you remove dialogue, or conversation, or just going back and forth from the process, all you end end up with is violence, Gutfeld said.
Trump has been accused of inciting his supporters to attack the Capitol building which left five people dead and many more injured by many on both sides of the aisle, including prominent Republicans like former Attorney General William Barr.
And you have people who feel like there is no hope. I think what were seeing here is a lot of people with no hope, Gutfeld continued. There is no way to turn this back. You have millions of people who do not trust their institutions, and you know what? They are justified. You cant trust the media, because they lie to you. You cant trust the elections, because there is fraud! We dont know how much, because every time someone brings it up, they are dismissed as conspiratorial rubes, Gutfeld concluded. We have to change, because its going to get worse before it gets better.
Fox News contributor Juan Williams pointed out that Trumps claims of election fraud are unproven. He cited Georgia Election official Gabriel Sterling, a Republican who debunked many of Trumps absurd claims of fraud. You had Gabe Sterling, a Republican election official in Georgia, go down the line and say this is wrong, Williams before getting interrupted by Gutfeld. He cherrypicked. He cherrypicked! Gutfeld yelled at Williams. You are just spouting what weve already heard, Gutfeld added before the panel divulged into chaos.
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Of Course Theyre Going to Cheat: Greg Gutfeld Claims Democratic Hatred For Trump Proves Voter Fraud (Video)
https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/of-course-theyre-going-to-cheat-greg-gutfeld-claims-democratic-hatred-for-trump-proves-voter-fraud/
Fox News host Greg Gutfeld blamed Democrats good vs. evil narrative about the 2020 election and defeating President Donald Trump as tantamount to proof that they would engage in widespread voter fraud even when there is no evidence of it. During a Wednesday afternoon monologue on The Five, spurred by a discussion about the ongoing recount in Georgia, Gutfeld railed against the fact that, in two of the counties, both of which were majority Republican, several hundred extra votes for Trump had not been properly submitted by the local officials. Those votes narrowed Bidens margin of victory, but he still leads by more than 10,000 ballots.
Thats why you have to do the recount, Gutfeld said, before divining a dark conspiracy in the errors found by Georgias Republican Secretary of State. And all of the irregularities going one direction. We were told that there was no evidence, and now that there is evidence, now we are being told, well, yeah, there is evidence, but not enough evidence. Of note, there is zero evidence of voter fraud or malicious intent in the Georgia counties corrected ballot totals.
So its not about fraud, its about trust, Gutfeld added, now pivoting away from specific claims of misconduct. The people who pushed the 4-year hoax created an environment where we cant trust any institution anymore. And they pulled everybody in on this charade. So we cant trust the media. We cant even trust the FBI. We cant trust anybody. Meanwhile they made this whole election a battle of good versus evil, Gutfeld went on, boldly declaring Democrats hatred of Trump is proof enough that the party would be capable of conducting voter fraud to defeat him. So of course they are going to cheat if you are up against Darth Vader Hitler, of course you are going to do it.
Gutfeld then implied that the multi-year Mueller investigation into Russian election interference means Republicans have a lot more time they can call into question Bidens victory. We have only been at it for two weeks. You guys did it for four years, the Fox hosts said. And lastly I am sick and tired of smirking anchors, not talking about you, Gutfeld said, gesturing to co-host Juan Williams,
smirking anchors who call themselves news anchors who sit here and arrogantly dismiss peoples concerns, right? They are going, You cant be serious. They dont even bother reporting, this is a legal means of checking on an election. So let it be that.
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Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)and so was Ed McMahon.
Midnight Writer
(21,717 posts)He ain't funny but a comedian with two national TV shows a day meets the definition of successful.
GoodRaisin
(8,908 posts)if that qualifies as a comedian. Otherwise I'd say he's successful as a right wing clown.
LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)But when it comes to that asshole I can't help myself. And no, he is not funny to me at all but I listed him because he does have a highly rated show on FNC and he bills himself as a comedian.
NCjack
(10,279 posts)Bettie
(16,076 posts)I think he's even a MAGAT
LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)Bettie
(16,076 posts)right wingers have a different idea of humor than most people. Misogyny sells well among them.
LNM
(1,078 posts)not sure if he's really a conservative or that's just his act.
Bucky
(53,947 posts)Like on abortion & other culture war distractions, he's not on the right. But like school vouchers or deep tax cuts or social welfare programs, he'd line up with Republicans. He's definitely not a religious nut, I'd call him a whiskey & cigar conservative, a golf club conservative. Probably okay with gay marriage, but not until it quit being a political issue.
Um, that's just a guess
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Some overtly conservative and others more apolitical.
Guys like Ron White and Jeff Foxworthy likely have a much more conservative fan base than someone like Dave Chappelle. But I don't believe they're outwardly conservative or all that political in their acts.
Larry the Cable Guy is generally more political and certainly a conservative.
Tim Allen has been a known conservative for most his career and was a big Trump supporter during his first campaign. He's seen success both as a comedian and actor - starring in two hit sitcoms.
Roseanne is conservative now but absolutely was not one during the height of her success, so I won't count her. Dennis Miller also flipped but a bulk of his success came prior to that. However, unlike Roseanne, he's at least been able to build a career as a conservative comedian and seen relative niche success among the FOX News crowd but hardly at the level of success he saw in the 90s. So, I'd say he fits the bill still.
Norm MacDonald is another likely more conservative. But he's Canadian so who knows what his feelings are on American politics.
lame54
(35,264 posts)And a trumper although it has been a while since I've heard from him
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Oftentimes, like with George Carlin, Foxworthy's bits are used to push a political agenda he did not make.
Like this right-wing bit that was popular on the internet a few years ago:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/07/facebook-posts/no-evidence-jeff-foxworthy-behind-viral-facebook-p/
As for him being a Trump supporter - I wouldn't doubt it with his style of humor. But I doubt he's lobbing too many political jokes.
And that's the difference, I guess.
I actually do find popular conservative comedians focus more on observational humor than social critics like Carlin or Chappelle, who identified as liberal, or more left-leaning. Why? I don't know. Probably because even they'd admit their side slides into crazy (Hence, 'you might be a redneck...).
I don't know. Either way, there's not a lot of mainstream comedians who use political conservativism in their routines. They might resort to conservative commentary but it's more jabbing liberals for drinking their lattes as opposed to doing the total social deconstruction of an ideology like Carlin used to do in his routines.
Of course, as awful as this sounds, I think their core audience is too simple to understand that humor and since many of these comics are businessmen even before they're comedians, they're not going to offend by going after the low fruit that may gain the applause of their audiences - like, you know, calling Obama a Muslim traitor or something stupid. A good example of this is Roseanne, who used racist and sexist terms to describe Valerie Jarrett. It wasn't funny. It was shocking. But it didn't gain her anything. It lost her her TV show and basically has turned her into a pariah.
mvd
(65,161 posts)His political leanings align with the rest of the conservative country crowd, however.
LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)They try to at least edge up to racism and sexism and homophobia. And they also wail and moan that they are being censored and silenced from being able to go full throttle with the racism and all the nasty rest as they had been in the past.
I agree with most of the names here.
I would also add Bill Cosby. If you see a shot of the crowd from his earlier days it is nearly exclusively white, conservative looking people.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I was stunned to learn the stupid was not an act.
LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)Last I saw she was doing a conservative whine and that was not funny
Bucky
(53,947 posts)I don't know if she ever did a stand-up act. Maybe a novelty act of some kind. I also suspect there was a lot of drug use on SNL in the '80s. Lots of hard partying powder sniffers end up going knee jerk conservative when they get off the glitter.
There's a lot of put on, surface level social rigidity that goes with the conservative mindset. Plus social conservatism feeds on social resentment, which a lot of ex drug users connect with.
I remember Robert Downey Jr wants to making some sanctimonious comment about how once you've been to prison and rehab, you can't be a real liberal anymore. It might not work for some of those shallow & naive limo liberals in upper class Hollywood. If I ever got sent up river, I would totally want John Maynard Keynes to have my back in a yard fight.
LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)Then she went to various other schools and the acting bug bit...
I don't get the impression that she was very stable...
I wouldn't be surprised if she was into drugs while at SNL
ShazamIam
(2,564 posts)fishwax
(29,148 posts)ShazamIam
(2,564 posts)while visiting someone who liked him.
edit: add
He says he is a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, to me that means libertarian or neo-liberal and that is conservative where it counts, economics.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2013/08/06/jay-lenos-candid-remarks-about-his-personal-political-views
haele
(12,640 posts)But if you ask if their actual jokes or stand-up is any good, I rather doubt they're any better than a stopped clock if they stray into political comedy.
As for "Edge Lord" comedy, which many conservatives like to play with - that's a dark humor that many people can't take, while others can take small amounts of if done well, and adolescents who refuse to grow up eat like ice cream because they think it shows smart and independent thinking, even though most edge comedy is cribbed from Jonathan Swift or Mark Twain, with naughty bits and cuss words thrown in.
But the real rule of comedy is that good comedy kicks up, not down. Good comedy holds a wry mirror up to folly. Good comedy also does not kiss ass.
And conservatives just can't seem to get any of that right.
Haele
jalan48
(13,842 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,292 posts)He's an actor, not a comedian.
jalan48
(13,842 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,292 posts)is a negotiated honorific they may come with (or in lieu of) extra money.
If you are interested in details of working/writing in Hollywood, I recommend the podcasts "Hollywood and Levine" and "Children of Tendu"
jalan48
(13,842 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,317 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(144,934 posts)Conservatives are bad at satire. This site is so weak and unfunny that it reminds me of this cartoon
BumRushDaShow
(128,502 posts)at least when they were on SNL.
Polybius
(15,335 posts)If they are liberal, they don't mention it like Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, and Jimmy Fallon do.
Aristus
(66,294 posts)I understand he's a die-hard Democrat and party campaign donor.
Polybius
(15,335 posts)I saw an interview where he said Johnny Carson said to him that you can joke about politics, but never show what side youre on.
I think it was great advice, even though the aforementioned are liberal and everyone knows it. I prefer it when they keep us guessing like Leno.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)He's tried to obfuscate his political leanings, but he's a pretty conservative guy. He moved out of CA to get away from the taxes and homeless, he is a big time gun rights supporter. He likes Alex Jones and a bunch of other right wingers.
Polybius
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He said he like him and Tulsi the best.
Bucky
(53,947 posts)Joe likes a strong message from a strong leader. That's why he ultimately supported Trump over Biden. He liked the strength. Biden was all policy this and effective, responsible government that. Where's the pizzazz? Where's the sexiness? Biden is gray haired and has a little shake in his voice cause he's nearly 80. All he talks about is American traditions and the rule of law. How fucking boring can you be?
Um, I quit watching Joe Rogan last year when I saw his leanings. I admire Bernie Sanders's ability to draw in independent moderate voters with his vigorous defense of the working class. But I have about zero respect for the voters who are so damn flaky that they'd go from a fighter like Bernie to a bullshit spewing con artist like Trump. Rogan is shallowness pretending to have common sense.
Leith
(7,808 posts)I could take only 38 seconds. And that was enough.
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LeftInTX
(25,137 posts)Guitarzan and his jungle band....
They're all you can stand....
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