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Time Is Running Out to Stop Gerrymandering (Original Post) Marius25 Aug 2021 OP
It will be an uphill battle to keep the house PortTack Aug 2021 #1
I thought Cawthorn won pretty easily? Marius25 Aug 2021 #14
He did. I think we have a better chance of booting QBert b/c her district is purple... SMC22307 Aug 2021 #19
Cawthorn (NC-11) did not have a very narrow win. SMC22307 Aug 2021 #18
Cawthorn won by 12 dsc Aug 2021 #22
Scary, but if we can get Joe and Joe to pass voting rights, we'll squeak by. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #2
Biden has said he supports acting on voting rights. FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #4
Manchin has already said he won't support carving out Marius25 Aug 2021 #15
Make Manchin understand that his seat is one of the most at risk due to Reptilian suppression. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #23
You are not being a downer. FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #3
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #9
Rethugs told the world NotANeocon Aug 2021 #5
There's an upside Zeitghost Aug 2021 #6
Did CA simply Re-district or did it GERRYMANDER? maxsolomon Aug 2021 #7
Call it what you want Zeitghost Aug 2021 #10
Gerrymandering means the districts are UNFAIRLY drawn. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #13
I'm not going to call it unfair Zeitghost Aug 2021 #20
But Republicans took back some seats in CA in 2020. Marius25 Aug 2021 #16
No Zeitghost Aug 2021 #21
California doesn't gerrymander- bipartisan commission draws district lines. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #8
As I said above Zeitghost Aug 2021 #11
Let's redraw them into the same district so they have to fight Marius25 Aug 2021 #17
K&R UTUSN Aug 2021 #12

PortTack

(32,757 posts)
1. It will be an uphill battle to keep the house
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:51 PM
Aug 2021

A little bit of good news- NY, CA, IL each lost one seat, the maps will be drawn to favor the Dems there, so 3 gqp will be losing their seats. Also, Bohbert will more than like go down, and possibly cawthorn...he had a very narrow win.

Plus some think the gqp had all the wins they are going to get last year. They have no place to go. Whereas the DNC has 22 vulnerable gqp they intend to target. And, the are cash flush

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
14. I thought Cawthorn won pretty easily?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:21 PM
Aug 2021

Would love for him and Boebert to go packing. I'm still hoping they face prosecution for aiding the terrorists on 1/6.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
19. He did. I think we have a better chance of booting QBert b/c her district is purple...
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:33 PM
Aug 2021

(or so I've heard) but perhaps someone in Colorado can weigh in.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
18. Cawthorn (NC-11) did not have a very narrow win.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:30 PM
Aug 2021

I believe four Republicans have announced they're running against him in '22 so we may get rid of him that way, but I'm not certain a Dem can win that district.

dsc

(52,157 posts)
22. Cawthorn won by 12
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 10:08 PM
Aug 2021

in comparison Butterfield, my Congressman won by 9. we did better in the 9th and 10th. NC will gain a seat, and we are currently split 8 to 5 in favor of the GOP. The GOP has publicly stated that they will gerrymander 10 to 4, and they have complete power since the governor has no role in redistricting. Our Democratic supreme court may make them redraw but they will get one election with those seats at a minimum. The last time it took us 4 elections to get a fair redraw.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
4. Biden has said he supports acting on voting rights.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:03 PM
Aug 2021

It's mainly Manchin who is causing the delay. S1 should have been passed as soon as the House sent it over. If it were law right now, most or all of what republicons are doing would be stopped. Dark money would not be an issue.

Instead, unbelievably, we have a Democratic senator who is doing Moscow Mitch's dirty work. And the clock is quickly running out

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
15. Manchin has already said he won't support carving out
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:22 PM
Aug 2021

the Filibuster to allow that to pass.

Don't see how we can pass that law.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. Make Manchin understand that his seat is one of the most at risk due to Reptilian suppression.
Thu Aug 5, 2021, 09:11 AM
Aug 2021

That's about the only thing I can figure.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,429 posts)
3. You are not being a downer.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:59 PM
Aug 2021

It's not being done, and not enough elected Democrats seem to realize that republicons are at their last step before getting complete permanent control of the entire federal government.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
9. +1000
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:49 PM
Aug 2021

I wish I was more optimistic, but I am really losing hope.

We're trying to put out a 4-Alarm fire with a water pistol and it's not enough.

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
5. Rethugs told the world
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:10 PM
Aug 2021

- that they would institute REDMAP after the poor showing in 2010 and that gerrymandering on steroids would result in permanent control of the Senate, House, and Presidency. This will be the second Universal Gerrymande opportunity and still no legislation either banning the practise OR introducing a more democratic Proportional Representational System which is far more difficult to Gerrymander.

This is another reason to change the legislation and kill the DemoBbuster

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
6. There's an upside
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:13 PM
Aug 2021

We have gerrymandered the MAGATS completely out of power here in CA. Hopefully 2022 is as good as 2018 when we were able to take 7 Congressional seats from them by stacking them into a few districts. I think the number was only 5 in 2020.

maxsolomon

(33,313 posts)
7. Did CA simply Re-district or did it GERRYMANDER?
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:28 PM
Aug 2021

There's a difference.

WA has a bipartisan commission that re-districts based on the Census results, which, given that they're a shrinking minority in WA, is actually leading to giving the GOP an advantage they don't deserve.

GOP-controlled states that have GERRYMANDERED (WI, MI, OH) aren't about to do anything but make the situation worse, and there's jack shit Liberals can do about it except take it to court. They make the rules.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
10. Call it what you want
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:02 PM
Aug 2021

We took 87% of the seats with only 65% of the votes. That's 7 more seats than we should have got proportionally.

maxsolomon

(33,313 posts)
13. Gerrymandering means the districts are UNFAIRLY drawn.
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:20 PM
Aug 2021

to benefit on party over another.

If CA uses a bipartisan commission, then the results shouldn't be unfair.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
20. I'm not going to call it unfair
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:56 PM
Aug 2021

But when you can force the MAGATS that make up 1/3 of this state into 7 districts when they should have 14, it's a pretty big advantage.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
21. No
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:58 PM
Aug 2021

They managed to pick up 2 IIRC. Giving us +5 over theoretically neutral district lines. Still a win.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
11. As I said above
Wed Aug 4, 2021, 07:03 PM
Aug 2021

Call it what you want. When we leave the MAGATS with only 7/53 seats despite them having 1/3 of the vote it's a good thing.


Of course the downside is McCarthy and Nunes have super secure seats, but it's a trade I'll take any day.

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