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Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:42 PM

Time Is Running Out to Stop Gerrymandering

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/time-running-out-stop-gerrymandering

Am I being a debbie downer for feeling like the US is already past the point of no return? Gerrymandering alone is enough to give Republicans the House majority.

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Reply Time Is Running Out to Stop Gerrymandering (Original post)
Marius25 Aug 2021 OP
PortTack Aug 2021 #1
Marius25 Aug 2021 #14
SMC22307 Aug 2021 #19
SMC22307 Aug 2021 #18
dsc Aug 2021 #22
lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #2
FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #4
Marius25 Aug 2021 #15
lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #23
FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #3
smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #9
NotANeocon Aug 2021 #5
Zeitghost Aug 2021 #6
maxsolomon Aug 2021 #7
Zeitghost Aug 2021 #10
maxsolomon Aug 2021 #13
Zeitghost Aug 2021 #20
Marius25 Aug 2021 #16
Zeitghost Aug 2021 #21
Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #8
Zeitghost Aug 2021 #11
Marius25 Aug 2021 #17
UTUSN Aug 2021 #12

Response to Marius25 (Original post)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:51 PM

1. It will be an uphill battle to keep the house

A little bit of good news- NY, CA, IL each lost one seat, the maps will be drawn to favor the Dems there, so 3 gqp will be losing their seats. Also, Bohbert will more than like go down, and possibly cawthorn...he had a very narrow win.

Plus some think the gqp had all the wins they are going to get last year. They have no place to go. Whereas the DNC has 22 vulnerable gqp they intend to target. And, the are cash flush

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Response to PortTack (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:21 PM

14. I thought Cawthorn won pretty easily?

Would love for him and Boebert to go packing. I'm still hoping they face prosecution for aiding the terrorists on 1/6.

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Response to Marius25 (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:33 PM

19. He did. I think we have a better chance of booting QBert b/c her district is purple...

(or so I've heard) but perhaps someone in Colorado can weigh in.

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Response to PortTack (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:30 PM

18. Cawthorn (NC-11) did not have a very narrow win.

I believe four Republicans have announced they're running against him in '22 so we may get rid of him that way, but I'm not certain a Dem can win that district.

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Response to PortTack (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 09:08 PM

22. Cawthorn won by 12

in comparison Butterfield, my Congressman won by 9. we did better in the 9th and 10th. NC will gain a seat, and we are currently split 8 to 5 in favor of the GOP. The GOP has publicly stated that they will gerrymander 10 to 4, and they have complete power since the governor has no role in redistricting. Our Democratic supreme court may make them redraw but they will get one election with those seats at a minimum. The last time it took us 4 elections to get a fair redraw.

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Response to Marius25 (Original post)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:55 PM

2. Scary, but if we can get Joe and Joe to pass voting rights, we'll squeak by.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 04:03 PM

4. Biden has said he supports acting on voting rights.

It's mainly Manchin who is causing the delay. S1 should have been passed as soon as the House sent it over. If it were law right now, most or all of what republicons are doing would be stopped. Dark money would not be an issue.

Instead, unbelievably, we have a Democratic senator who is doing Moscow Mitch's dirty work. And the clock is quickly running out

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:22 PM

15. Manchin has already said he won't support carving out

the Filibuster to allow that to pass.

Don't see how we can pass that law.

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Response to Marius25 (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 5, 2021, 08:11 AM

23. Make Manchin understand that his seat is one of the most at risk due to Reptilian suppression.

That's about the only thing I can figure.

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Response to Marius25 (Original post)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 03:59 PM

3. You are not being a downer.

It's not being done, and not enough elected Democrats seem to realize that republicons are at their last step before getting complete permanent control of the entire federal government.

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Response to FoxNewsSucks (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:49 PM

9. +1000

 

I wish I was more optimistic, but I am really losing hope.

We're trying to put out a 4-Alarm fire with a water pistol and it's not enough.

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Response to Marius25 (Original post)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:10 PM

5. Rethugs told the world

- that they would institute REDMAP after the poor showing in 2010 and that gerrymandering on steroids would result in permanent control of the Senate, House, and Presidency. This will be the second Universal Gerrymande opportunity and still no legislation either banning the practise OR introducing a more democratic Proportional Representational System which is far more difficult to Gerrymander.

This is another reason to change the legislation and kill the DemoBbuster

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Response to Marius25 (Original post)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:13 PM

6. There's an upside

We have gerrymandered the MAGATS completely out of power here in CA. Hopefully 2022 is as good as 2018 when we were able to take 7 Congressional seats from them by stacking them into a few districts. I think the number was only 5 in 2020.

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Response to Zeitghost (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:28 PM

7. Did CA simply Re-district or did it GERRYMANDER?

There's a difference.

WA has a bipartisan commission that re-districts based on the Census results, which, given that they're a shrinking minority in WA, is actually leading to giving the GOP an advantage they don't deserve.

GOP-controlled states that have GERRYMANDERED (WI, MI, OH) aren't about to do anything but make the situation worse, and there's jack shit Liberals can do about it except take it to court. They make the rules.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:02 PM

10. Call it what you want

We took 87% of the seats with only 65% of the votes. That's 7 more seats than we should have got proportionally.

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Response to Zeitghost (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:20 PM

13. Gerrymandering means the districts are UNFAIRLY drawn.

to benefit on party over another.

If CA uses a bipartisan commission, then the results shouldn't be unfair.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #13)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:56 PM

20. I'm not going to call it unfair

But when you can force the MAGATS that make up 1/3 of this state into 7 districts when they should have 14, it's a pretty big advantage.

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Response to Zeitghost (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:23 PM

16. But Republicans took back some seats in CA in 2020.

Was that before the redistricting?

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Response to Marius25 (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 08:58 PM

21. No

They managed to pick up 2 IIRC. Giving us +5 over theoretically neutral district lines. Still a win.

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Response to Zeitghost (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 05:30 PM

8. California doesn't gerrymander- bipartisan commission draws district lines. Nt

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:03 PM

11. As I said above

Call it what you want. When we leave the MAGATS with only 7/53 seats despite them having 1/3 of the vote it's a good thing.


Of course the downside is McCarthy and Nunes have super secure seats, but it's a trade I'll take any day.

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Response to Zeitghost (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:24 PM

17. Let's redraw them into the same district so they have to fight

over who stays.

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Response to Marius25 (Original post)

Wed Aug 4, 2021, 06:15 PM

12. K&R

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