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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:57 PM Aug 2021

USPS will pay DeJoy's former company, XPO Logistics, $120 million to take over two key sorting

USPS will pay DeJoy's former company, XPO Logistics, $120 million to take over two key sorting facilities.

Remember I said I had another USPS story dropping today?

Here it is.

USPS will pay DeJoy's former company, XPO Logistics, $120 million to take over two key sorting facilities.

Meanwhile, DeJoy maintains significant financial ties to XPO.


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USPS will pay DeJoy's former company, XPO Logistics, $120 million to take over two key sorting (Original Post) yaesu Aug 2021 OP
In other words, DeJoy will pay DeJoy's former company, XPO Logistics, $120 million dalton99a Aug 2021 #1
Friday night DeJoystick Dump Blue Owl Aug 2021 #2
Typical Trump style self-dealing. Get rid of this shit. Jim__ Aug 2021 #3
Why do they need more sorting capacity? Midnightwalk Aug 2021 #4
This☝️ I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2021 #6
probably gave the machines to his stillcool Aug 2021 #10
Because the sorting machines sort letters and not parcels A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #15
Agree and not to mention Cheezoholic Aug 2021 #21
Then what is the cause for the massive slowdown in mail delivery? dansolo Aug 2021 #27
Basically a perfect storm. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #30
Thanks for the correction Midnightwalk Aug 2021 #32
You are very welcome A HERETIC I AM Aug 2021 #33
+1 uponit7771 Aug 2021 #23
XPO Logistics? That explains a lot. jmowreader Aug 2021 #5
Good info - thanks. Pinback Aug 2021 #16
The people Biden put on the board are not doing a thing to stop him helpisontheway Aug 2021 #7
Pretty sure dems were on board with the gutting of USPS by Bush Cetacea Aug 2021 #19
This can't slide. nt oasis Aug 2021 #8
How much money do people need? TexasBushwhacker Aug 2021 #9
MORE,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2021 #20
Why oh why is this crook still there? rickyhall Aug 2021 #11
Disgusting. He broke tax laws and destroyed USG property. NCjack Aug 2021 #12
WTF? can you say SWAMP MONSTER? HOW CONVENIENT. pansypoo53219 Aug 2021 #13
Typical greedy grifter overstep. Go get them. Marcuse Aug 2021 #14
This is so fucking wrong Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #17
Recent SCOTUS decision made it possible for Biden to sac Saul Cetacea Aug 2021 #18
why can't we fire this fool RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #22
So DeJoy profits ... NOTHING ... from this whatsoever ?!!? uponit7771 Aug 2021 #24
Why can't the Biden Administration stop this? TheFarseer Aug 2021 #25
My question alos. nt joetheman Aug 2021 #28
I think he has to wait until next year dansolo Aug 2021 #29
The House needs to hold a hearing on this shit. JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #26
Corruption! UCmeNdc Aug 2021 #31

dalton99a

(81,451 posts)
1. In other words, DeJoy will pay DeJoy's former company, XPO Logistics, $120 million
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:58 PM
Aug 2021

Get rid of this criminal ASAP


Jim__

(14,075 posts)
3. Typical Trump style self-dealing. Get rid of this shit.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:06 PM
Aug 2021

Get rid of all the Trump connected shit still in the government.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
4. Why do they need more sorting capacity?
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:07 PM
Aug 2021

Last edited Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:12 AM - Edit history (1)

Because dejoy destroyed the sorting machines.

Edit: Heretic points out the sorters were for letters not parcels so what i wrote might be wrong.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
15. Because the sorting machines sort letters and not parcels
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 11:22 PM
Aug 2021

And a significant portion of postal volume has switched over the last decade from letters to boxes and other packages that a letter sorter is useless for.

I’m no fan of DeJoy, not by any stretch, but the amount of misinformation regarding the machines that were scrapped is mind boggling.

As someone who is inside large Postal sorting facilities on a regular basis, I can tell you that much of the sorting equipment being removed from those centers was installed 20 or 30 years ago at least, and is not only obsolete, but utterly incapable of processing the TYPE of mail presently handled.

Cheezoholic

(2,016 posts)
21. Agree and not to mention
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:28 AM
Aug 2021

a lot of those sorters were already scheduled to be decommissioned before he got there for the very reasons you stated. Also associating DeJoy specifically with a conspiracy associated with TFG and the 2020 election really has no legs. All that being said, the true conspiracy has been a 25 year long campaign (specifically on the USPS in this case) by conservatives to whittle away financial support for any government run/supported service that has the potential to result in huge profits if private companies can step in and be more "efficient" i.e. the federal prison system as one example. The old "starve the institution" and then tout to the voter that government doesn't work trick. I'm not defending DeJoy by any means. Besides his sketchy past the fact he has a heavy hand on decisions being made to profit companies that he (and I'm sure many other political leaders at state and local levels) still has a vested interest in is 20th century big city mafioso crony politics at it's finest. There are many government entities that operate in the void of being a private company and a division of government. It's a space primed for corruption and does no service whatsoever for the taxpayers whom usually foot the bill on the front end and then get their pocket picked on the backend. While potentially this model was a good idea 100 years ago it relied on integrity in both the private sector where it is predominantly non existent and government where it can be highly suspect. The rules need to be re-written in this chasm of legal corruption.

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
27. Then what is the cause for the massive slowdown in mail delivery?
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 07:24 AM
Aug 2021

I suspect what you are saying is only partially true. The sorting machines that were decommissioned seemed to be targeted to cause the greatest disruptions in mail delivery. Why did first class mail delivery go from taking a week to taking over a month practically overnight? Even if eliminating some sorting machines was justified, he royally fucked up the USPS in the process.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
30. Basically a perfect storm.
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 08:47 AM
Aug 2021

First let me say that I am in no way speaking for the USPS or the workers. What I am saying here is strictly from my own experience working as a truck driver for a major mail contractor and speaking with the workers I encountered.

If we are talking about the disruptions that occurred between late October, ‘20 and January, then it was a combination of several factors;
1) The COVID pandemic causing workers to stay home from the sorting centers, either because they were actually sick or feared getting sick, causing massive systemwide manpower shortages.
2) The enormous increase of online shopping which resulted in a huge increase in overall volume.
3) The restriction of the Dock Expeditors (Those in charge of seeing to it the trailers I haul leave on time and with all the mail they are supposed to carry) ability to call in an “Extra” when volume is higher than normal. An Extra is simply a second trailer to cover the same contract route when the first or all the scheduled trailers are full.
4) The restrictions placed on street level carriers overtime hours. Typically if a carrier needed longer than 8 hours to get all the mail off his truck, he was allowed to do so. A rule was put in place during November and December that instructed carriers to return to their post offices after 8 hours, thus causing backlogs that became enormous.

The latter two may or may not have been commanded by DeJoy himself. Many threads back at Christmas time suggested he was directly responsible. I have no way to verify this.

Look at this satellite shot;

https://goo.gl/maps/CkWF5VhXDoWocMq4A

That is a major NDC just outside Washington DC. It’s a big one, but by no means one of the largest in the country. Notice the lanes between the rows of parked trailers on the west side of the building. In normal times those trailers would include outbound loaded trailers waiting for a truck to haul them away (which was never for very long - most within an hour and less than 4 hours, typically), inbound loaded trailers with mail needing to be sorted, waiting for a dock to be emptied, and empties waiting to be placed on a dock to be loaded with outbound mail. At one point in late December, every single spot in that lot was full and those lanes in between were also full of trailers, most with mail in them and some that had been waiting to hit a dock and be unloaded for TWO WEEKS! This was the case at several large Distribution Centers nationwide, but the East was particularly hard hit. The effect of what I state above was unprecedented.


I suspect what you are saying is only partially true.

You are free to have all the suspicions you want. There are some on this board that will not like what I might say on this subject no matter what proof I offer. As a result, I am not going to spend any more time typing this out than I need to in order to make myself clear.


The sorting machines that were decommissioned seemed to be targeted to cause the greatest disruptions in mail delivery.

It might SEEM that way, but from what I have observed, and as the poster above me stated, the removal of those machines was long planned. Did it look bad? Absolutely. Did it contribute to the breakdown of the system? Not by much, if any.

Why did first class mail delivery go from taking a week to taking over a month practically overnight?

See number 1 thru 4 above.

Even if eliminating some sorting machines was justified, he royally fucked up the USPS in the process.

You will get no argument from me that he was and continues to be the wrong man for the job. But I do not think he was completely and solely responsible for the massive backlogs we saw last winter.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
32. Thanks for the correction
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 09:09 AM
Aug 2021

I wasn’t aware the current problem is packages not letters.

DeJoy’s company should be barred from receiving contracts like this because of self dealing, but I don’t want to spread misinformation. I’ll modify my reply.

I haven’t been able to read more yet, but for now I have doubts about what i said, so I’ll tix that.

Thanks for the heads up.

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
5. XPO Logistics? That explains a lot.
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:07 PM
Aug 2021

XPO Logistics bought a trucking company called Con-Way. And what you need to know about Con-Way...before Con-Way there was Consolidated Freightways, which was a union carrier. (They also made their own trucks, which are still sold. The brand is Freightliner.) The company that owned CF decided to break the union, so they started Con-Way, shifted all the profitable lanes to it, then on Labor Day 2002 they held a conference call with the CF employees and announced, "we are closing CF today."

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
7. The people Biden put on the board are not doing a thing to stop him
Fri Aug 6, 2021, 09:20 PM
Aug 2021

so I’m not going to worry about it.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,668 posts)
22. why can't we fire this fool
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 12:38 AM
Aug 2021

can we prosecute this fool ???

No way in hell his former company won this contract, Fraud is what id call it.

TheFarseer

(9,322 posts)
25. Why can't the Biden Administration stop this?
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 06:56 AM
Aug 2021

They put some people on the board but it didn’t fix the problem. Can anything else be done or are they fine with this?

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
29. I think he has to wait until next year
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 07:26 AM
Aug 2021

I don't think Biden has enough Board members to oust him. I though that there may be another position opening up later this year or next year.

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