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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTomorrow would be a good day for Diane Feinstein to retire
She is very old. Her mental state is questionable. The Governor may be recalled.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)themaguffin
(3,816 posts)[link:?width=840&rect=4500x3000&offset=0x0|
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)VP Harris that must of really made your head explode
YOU are NOT the one who decides. All the voters in California decide, and up to now the majority of us in California has decided she is a good Senator for our state
Sewa
(1,250 posts)Sen. Feinstein undercut the Democratic candidate in SC Jaime Harrison by praising Graham. Then the infamous maskless hug.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)well in SC, and expanded Democrats vision of what is possible in deep red states
He ran a campaign on massive registration of African Americans, but also tried to attract white voters who ha become disillusioned by Graham, by exploiting Grahams flip-flopping, along with the fact that grahams friendship with trump did little to benefit the state
Unfortunately the pandemic forced Harrison to pause his aggressive voter-registration effort, where he planned to tour across every county in SC, where he moved online where rural residents lack adequate internet speeds.
Republicans had no qualms about in-person campaigning, along with the partisan lean of the state along with trumps popularity there.
Harrisons loss had nothing to do with Feinstein. It was an uphill battle from the start, and he did extraordinarily well under the circumstances
Stacy Abrams demonstrated how it could be done, and Harrison almost did it
The populace in SC could give a rats ass what a liberal Senator from California did
https://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Dianne_Feinstein.htm
Sewa
(1,250 posts)numbers drop after Feinstein made her comments praising Graham. She hurt a Democratic candidate and that isnt acceptable.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)that it was because of Feinstein is ridiculous
Why dont you tell me if you are from California or not?
themaguffin
(3,816 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 10, 2021, 01:13 PM - Edit history (1)
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)from California? It seems no one wants to say for some reason
themaguffin
(3,816 posts)JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)themaguffin
(3,816 posts)different skippy.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)It is neither positive nor productive for anyone
Let's just end this on a positive note, and vote this recall down
Have a good day
Peppertoo
(435 posts)JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)Who, questions it, the sunrise movement?
I didnt see anyone questioning if Nina Turner was was all together when she compared Biden to a bowl of s**t, and then blame her loss on outside money, when Turner raised significantly more money from the outside
Hekate
(90,554 posts)BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)It's not a secret. No one denies it.
msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)No one needs to be a Dr of any kind to recognize her mental state is NOT up to par.
She needs to resign, before our recall election. PERIOD. It's effin obvious why.'
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)term out
It isnt a straw man question. It is up to us who live in California.
Should Sanders, Leahy and other older Democrats not run in the next election? No one seems to be concerned with those situations. I wonder if they even know her voting record
Have you received your informational voting pamphlet?
I received mine today
The postage paid mail in ballot should give us an advantage
I have been doing call banking for Newsom since last weekend
I think the recall will be defeated
This is the third recall attempt against Newsom, and it only succeeded this time because a jackass judge extended the time to gather signatures by three months
msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)checked the site a few hours ago. I'm planning a trip and on'e be back before election day, so i really need my ballot soon.
I'm NERVOUS about this recall. In fact you could say I'm scared shitless this is going to go south on us. Dems were the majority of registered voters when Gray got recalled. you do remember that right?
For California, the problem has always been about turnout. ESPECIALL on the off year elections and special elections.
Every freakin time it goes bad for us.
I can't remember when it ever went the way it should have, HAD every registered Dem VOTED.
They don't. that's why we lose when we do.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)I was not referring to the actual ballot, that will be in about two weeks
I was referring to the voter information guide
Turn out has a different meaning because of the mail in ballot postage paid
As I said I am doing call banking along with others throughout California to motivate people to vote
msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)fires? I'm wondering how many people have been displaced again.
this recall is a Koch brothers and Federalists Society funded deal. I hate them. I want to see them go the way of the NRA.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)As a Californian, I would very much like the United States Senate to be a Democratic Majority.
And the DEMOCRATIC Party definitely NEEDS TWO DEMOCRATIC SENATORS in the UNITED STATES SENATE.
I can't believe the response here. where the hell am I, FOX LAND?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Hekate
(90,554 posts)Signed,
A Californian
msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)Things are really not looking good for this recall. You do realize that right?
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)But I can't reach out to everyone who needs to be pushed to fill it out and mail it in.
insane as it may seem. I'm worried about apathy resulting in low turnout.
I don't have my voter info booklet yet, but i have read the list of names who tossed their hat in on this race. I think I recall paging through 3 pages of list of names. it was jaw dropping.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)prove who cares more and of course who's right.
The OP kicked up a shitstorm. Even though he or she doesn't seem to be from California, obviously thanks are owed for providing this opportunity.
msongs
(67,360 posts)ripcord
(5,268 posts)"Thank you for you service, dont let the door hit your ass on the way out".
Deuxcents
(16,085 posts)Maybe youre approach could use a better invitation for discussion
Bev54
(10,039 posts)It will take time to appoint a replacement.
Sewa
(1,250 posts)Its past time for her to do the right thing and retire. 💀🤙
Skittles
(153,111 posts)ya know?
Sewa
(1,250 posts)These bait n switch tactics are childish. 💀🤙
Skittles
(153,111 posts)even though they SHOULD
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)AND then Senator Feinstein dies or retires -- and the new Republican Governor appoints her replacement?
Hekate
(90,554 posts)Let us hope Newsom survives, for every reason imaginable. The leading GOP candidate thinks the proper minimum wage is $0.00.
Peppertoo
(435 posts)SYFROYH
(34,162 posts)In my field, we tell our colleague friends to tell us when it's time to go.
Mr.Bill
(24,238 posts)Our state legislature needs to pass a law like they have in some states that any governor making a Congressional appointment must choose someone of the same party as the person who vacated that office. Problem solved, and it's a very fair law.
I might add that I believe as long as Feinstein has a pulse, she will not resign.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I suspect that as long as Feinstein is still generally sharp and feels she has much to offer, and has very highly qualified assistants to remind her of any slipped details, she won't resign, or need to.
Also that as long as she is in office she will draw far more criticism -- harsh, hostile criticism -- than the contemporaneous crop of elderly male senators put together. It takes a lot more than a century to change attitudes implanted over millennia.
totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)She has severed a long time. Let her serve out her term. That's the least we owe her.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)Feinstein will die under the new Governor., and then a Republican would replace her
That could happen to a number of Senators, Leahy, Sanders, etc. with republican governors, but it is Feinstein who concerns them
The people in California will make that decision
I received my recall information ballot today, and have been phone banking for Newsom
I dont think the recall will be successful
Every registered voter will be sent a mail in ballot with a postage paid stamp, and California insures all votes are counted. There are 45% registered Democrats and 20 some percent republicans, and the majority of no party preference, lean progressive
The odds are that the the recall will lose
msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)voter turn out.
But you know that right?
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)Postage paid
Contrary to the views of some there is a lot of enthusiasm and interest in this recall
msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)because they forgot about and it put it to the side, and waited too late to fill it out and mail it in time.
And that was a Presidential Election of huge consequences. Election? What Election? Didn't we just have one?
Lot's of these people in my complex. Seniors, mostly women. Getting by. Certainly knew when Gov. Newsom sent $600 to us, and stimulus funds for SNAP since the shutdown began last year. Oh yeah, but it when comes to voting, meh.
I'm pounding on their doors reminding them the election is coming, "oh yeah, will get it done"
I didn't believe Gray could get recalled. When he lost, I was devastated. I will never believe in polls again in this State.
It's the actual TURNOUT.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)shortage with blackouts
The Davis ballot was a mess. There were hundreds of secondary candidates, and too many Democrats were fooled to vote for Arnold, because he wasnt far right and a celebrity
That isnt the case this time, and the leading republican and libertarian candidates are far right
I think there are a lot of nervous Democrats and progressives, and that will be a motivating factor
Mr.Bill
(24,238 posts)in California then than there are now.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,238 posts)but the republican party in California has been dying. There are no republicans holding statewide office and the Democrats hold supermajorities in both houses of the legislature. Even with a republican governor, they could pass legislation and over-ride any veto.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,271 posts)This is deja viu..
Hey Arnold, someone is calling your name again.
totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)Now I get it. But it's highly unlikely that she will die in the near term. The average 88 year old white woman lives another seven years.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)Response to Peppertoo (Original post)
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David__77
(23,329 posts)Theres a veto proof supermajority so if they can change law if need be, that alleviates my own concern.
maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)She and Grassley are in their last terms. People age and die.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)maxsolomon
(33,244 posts)But, if they fell competent enough to hold on, I would hope that they retire when they aren't.
If Biden's acuity starts to be compromised, I would hope he'd do the same.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)Initech
(100,038 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)Get. They outnumber GOP types 2 to 1.
JohnSJ
(92,061 posts)they don't vote, or worse vote for the recall, they are worse than idiots, they would be self-destructive abusers, who would be inflicting a lot of pain on a lot of people
If that happens, which I don't think it will, I hope our super majority in the legislature would be able to prevent any draconian actions