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Kablooie

(18,619 posts)
Sat Aug 7, 2021, 11:17 PM Aug 2021

Supreme Court decision could set off gerrymandering 'arms race'

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/566631-supreme-court-decision-could-set-off-gerrymandering-arms-race

As a result of decisions by the Roberts Court, federal courthouses will be forced to turn away even the most egregious cases of partisan gerrymandering, which could make it easier for state lawmakers to lock in politically manipulated voting maps for the next decade.

“Now that the Supreme Court has officially retreated from the area, they've set off what will likely be an arms race between the parties to gerrymander to the fullest extent they can in the states where they hold control,” said G. Michael Parsons, a scholar at New York University School of Law.

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“The U.S. Supreme Court had the ability to do something about this in 2019. They not only refused, but they gave the politicians a green light and an unlimited speed limit as they head into this next redistricting cycle,” Daley said. “The lawmakers who are drawing these lines right now know very well that they will now be able to get away with the most aggressive maps of their dreams.”

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The Supreme Court’s decision in Rucho explicitly left open the possibility that Congress could step up to curb gerrymandering. As Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the majority: “The Framers gave Congress the power to do something about partisan gerrymandering.”
But with just over one week until the release of new census data sets in motion new map drawing, time is running out.

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Sounds like Democrats had better start consulting AI programs and plan to gerrymander everywhere they can otherwise we will end up living under a permanent Republican majority.
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Supreme Court decision could set off gerrymandering 'arms race' (Original Post) Kablooie Aug 2021 OP
Gerrymandering explained keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #1
Thanks for posting that. 2naSalit Aug 2021 #2
This is going to sound pollyanna-ish, but gerrymandering seems so unfair and so much liberalla Aug 2021 #3
Absolutely but SCOTUS said they will allow as much as anyone wants. Kablooie Aug 2021 #4
Racial Gerrymanders are illegal but partisan gerrymanders are okay LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #5

liberalla

(9,234 posts)
3. This is going to sound pollyanna-ish, but gerrymandering seems so unfair and so much
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 07:56 PM
Aug 2021

like cheating. I don't understand how they could leave it in there, to be interpreted and manipulated by whoever...

It seems like there should be limitations or guidelines as to how out of whack the balance can be or how much you can skew the results.

Kablooie

(18,619 posts)
4. Absolutely but SCOTUS said they will allow as much as anyone wants.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 08:23 PM
Aug 2021

It's up to Congress to control it but with the filibuster in place that is impossible.

So, even though it nullifies a democracy and should be banned, if one side is allowed to gerrymander as much as they want without restriction the other side has to do the same or they risk being in the minority forever.

Republicans are determined to eliminate American democracy and are gambling that they will be the winners and take permanent, unchallenged control of the US government.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,046 posts)
5. Racial Gerrymanders are illegal but partisan gerrymanders are okay
Fri Feb 4, 2022, 06:38 PM
Feb 2022

I have been volunteering on voter protection issues for a very long time. One of the key provisions of the Manchin proposal is the elimination of partisan gerrymandering. I have testified before the Texas state house and Senate committees a while back on the Texas redistricting plans and had fun following the Texas redistricting case. MALDEF used part of my testimony to contest the state house maps in my county which were heavily gerrymandered, but the court was unable to do anything due to the SCOTUS ruing set forth below. I first heard of the efficiency gap theory a while back from a presentation by Chad Dunn (the lawyer who won the Texas voter id/voter suppression case) and this concept is in effect a major part of the Manchin proposal

Racial gerrymandering has been illegal for a while but the SCOTUS has ruled that partisan gerrymandering is not covered by the Voting Rights Act https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/731847977/supreme-court-rules-partisan-gerrymandering-is-beyond-the-reach-of-federal-court

In a 5-4 decision along traditional conservative-liberal ideological lines, the Supreme Court ruled that partisan redistricting is a political question — not reviewable by federal courts — and that those courts can't judge if extreme gerrymandering violates the Constitution.

The ruling puts the onus on the legislative branch, and on individual states, to police redistricting efforts.

"We conclude that partisan gerrymandering claims present political questions beyond the reach of the federal courts," Chief Justice Roberts wrote for the conservative majority. "Federal judges have no license to reallocate political power between the two major political parties, with no plausible grant of authority in the Constitution, and no legal standards to limit and direct their decisions."

Trump Threatens Census Delay After Supreme Court Leaves Citizenship Question Blocked
Roberts noted that excessive partisanship in the drawing of districts does lead to results that "reasonably seem unjust," but he said that does not mean it is the court's responsibility to find a solution.

Partisan gerrymanding is a method where districts are drawn so that Democratic voters are packed into districts with large majorities while republican districts are drawn so to maximize the number of seats won by GOP candidates
Republicans managed to both maximize their advantage and minimize Democratic power by drawing district lines to pack as many Democrats as possible into three districts, and then cracking other potentially Democratic districts in half or thirds, diluting the Democratic vote to create safe Republican districts.

The League of Women Voters, one of the challengers in the case, pointed out that the GOP had even split predominantly Democratic Greensboro so that half of the dorms at historically black North Carolina A&T State University were put in one Republican district, and half in another.

You can combat partisan gerrymandering with a concept called the efficiency gap where one attempts to draw districts so that GOP and Democratic voters are in effect spread more equitably. Here is a brief explanation of this concept by the Brennan Center https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legal-work/How_the_Efficiency_Gap_Standard_Works.pdf

The efficiency gap is a standard for measuring partisan gerrymandering that is currently at the heart
of the Wisconsin gerrymandering case, Whitford v. Nichol.

Developed by Nicholas Stephanopoulos, Professor at the University of Chicago Law School, and
Eric McGhee, Research Fellow at the Public Policy Institute of California, the efficiency gap counts
the number of votes each party wastes in an election to determine whether either party enjoyed a
systematic advantage in turning votes into seats.2 Any vote cast for a losing candidate is considered
wasted, as are all the votes cast for a winning candidate in excess of the number needed to win.

Here is another explanation of this concept https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/03/upshot/how-the-new-math-of-gerrymandering-works-supreme-court.html

The Supreme Court is considering a gerrymandering case in Wisconsin. At the core of the debate is a new way to measure gerrymandering. Here’s the simple math behind it. RELATED ARTICLE

Ever since Justice Anthony M. Kennedy left the door open to a “workable standard” to limit partisan gerrymandering, political scientists have sought to construct a measure to satisfy him. On Tuesday, the Supreme Court will hear a case that will test whether they’ve pulled it off.

At the center of the case is the “efficiency gap,” a relatively new measure of partisan gerrymandering. A federal court in Wisconsin ruled in November that the state’s Republican-controlled legislature had discriminated against Democratic voters, and it partly relied on the efficiency gap to find that the Wisconsin State Assembly map was an unconstitutional partisan gerrymander.

Whether it’s persuasive to Justice Kennedy — expected to be the key swing vote in the case — is another matter. The efficiency gap is not a perfect measure. But it would probably address many of gerrymandering’s problems, with few downsides.

The Manchin proposal on getting rid of partisan gerrymanding is a major deal. This one proposal would make a major difference in the real world
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