They're really raking Biden over the coals on the Mehdi Hasan show tonight

[Nexus2]

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Over the eviction moratorium, focusing on a weeping 72 old woman that was evicted. They're calling that last minute action to restore the moratorium a 'failed Hail Mary' regurgitated from a Trump era policy that full of holes such as the one the lady's landlord used to evict her.

[BigmanPigman]

1. Didn't she say that she pays

90% of her disability/SS income on rent and astronomical electric prices in KC. I thought she said she is 62 years old. Her rent must be extremely high, especially for KC. I'm not familiar with the area so maybe the rents are like those I experience in Southern CA.

[Demobrat]

9. How was her income affected by Covid?

If it comes from SS/disability she would have been in the same fix with or without the pandemic.
I didn’t see the episode. Maybe I’m missing something.

But these programs were put in place to help people who lost their incomes due to Covid.

This sounds like a different situation.

[BigmanPigman]

12. I'm not sure since I missed the beginning

of the interview but your point makes sense to me.

[JohnSJ]

2. Media Hassan has been a Biden hater from the start. It is too bad the jackass doesn't understand

what is involved

The SC made it pretty clear it is up Congress to do something about is.

Maxine Waters has written the bill to address that

Medi Hassan can go f**k himself, for misleading his views about the facts

[Violet_Crumble]

51. Is there a clip on YouTube you can point me to?

After reading yr post I feel I should be raging and angry at medhi hasan for daring to indulge in constructive criticism and honesty, but I can't locate the offensive clip to make up my own mind. I like everything ive seen from him on mnsbc so maybe im missing something? Thanks in advance! I just want to understand the anger.

[viva la]

3. There's a better way to do this-

If you're a small-time landlord with a few properties, how are you going to make your mortgage payments?

Better to just give the renters who need it enough money to pay the landlords, or pay the rent for them.

Maybe I'm missing how these renters are going to pay this deferred rent (many thousands of dollars), and how landlords are going to get enough to pay the nut and also do maintenance.
I know someone who rented a house to someone temporarily in Dec 2019 (the tenants had sold their house and were looking to buy another). My acquaintance just meant to help this family out for a bit and then put the house on the market. 1.5 years later, they're still in the house, not paying rent. He's still paying a mortgage and can't sell the house, because no one will buy a house with non-paying tenants.

It isn't really good longterm for either party-- unless I'm missing how this is going to settle in the future.

[Mr.Bill]

4. Governor Newsom came up with a program

that simply pays qualified people's back rent and utilities. Renters are happy as are the landlords. And they want to throw him out of office.

https://www.kcra.com/article/california-rent-utility-relief-program-renters-landlords-apply-qualifies/37041527

[Lovie777]

10. Biden Administration early this year. . .

allocated monies to the states to address this. Gov. Newsom and other blue states I believe have complied.

[BlueLucy]

17. It was Biden not Newsom

All blue states have been passing out the money. I don't know but I think some red states have refused.

[Mr.Bill]

28. But Newsom got it going quickly.

I can't believe these red states that turn these things down. It's like they want to hurt the people who vote for them. Assholes.

[BlueLucy]

30. I hear OR and WA also did good getting them out.

Racism is so rampant in this country. Poor white people who really need this help will still vote republican because republicans pander to their racism.

[former9thward]

34. No many blue states have not.

Including NY which is one of four states that has not given out anything.

https://apnews.com/article/business-health-government-and-politics-new-york-coronavirus-pandemic-d21278e66c3d113959e2d3a26e736125

[BlueLucy]

35. Wow. I had no idea.

That's shameful. edit to add.. still many states have.

[lapucelle]

38. New York's application / disbursement system was mired in red tape, but the system was overhauled,

and the first payments were made in late July. New Yorkers cannot be evicted as long as they a claim in process, whether or not they have received their checks yet.

The AP story you cited is from July 13.

Rent relief: NY vows to erase backlog by Aug. 31, launches easier application
July 26, 2021

Gov. Andrew Cuomo's office on Monday [July 26] announced a streamlined application for federal COVID-19 rent relief and pledged that any eligible New Yorker needing assistance will receive it by Aug. 31.

The new application process, which is planned to go into effect Tuesday [July 27], will relax documentation standards for the Emergency Rental Assistance Program for both tenants and landlords, and will allow the Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance to clear the backlog of applications, which totaled 160,000 in mid-July, according to the agency.

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2021/07/26/rent-relief-ny-application-backlog/8093336002/

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First check disbursement:

New York’s $2.7 Billion Rent Relief Program Cuts First Checks, Amid Scrutiny
July 28, 2021

New York’s stalled rent relief program has started sending checks to a handful of landlords whose tenants have missed rent payments as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, with Gov. Andrew Cuomo pledging to pay every approved applicant by the end of August.

https://citylimits.org/2021/07/28/new-yorks-2-7-billion-rent-relief-program-cuts-first-checks-amid-scrutiny/

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From NY's local CBS affiliate:

Billions in government rent aid is available. Here's how to get it.
Updated on: August 6, 2021

While the government's new eviction moratorium has given renters some breathing room, it's still important to apply for a program as soon as possible.

"If you haven't applied yet, you should immediately because it may take time to get that money to you," Yentel said.

Even if the money takes months to arrive, submitting a rent aid application aid is a critical first step for renters who might be facing eviction. That's because in many states, including California, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New York and Oregon, you are protected from being evicted while your application is being processed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-rental-assistance-find-apply-covid-19-pandemic-eviction-moratorium/

[mcar]

5. Who is Meddi Hassan?

And why should I care?

[JohnSJ]

7. +++

[ismnotwasm]

11. Yup

[lapucelle]

16. He's a podcaster for The Intercept. It's pretty apparent that the strategy that Democrats employed

to extend the rent moratorium went over his head.

The strategy was masterful because in the end the Waters/Pelosi/Biden solution secured the extension, and, at the same time protected every Democratic member, forestalled criticism of the CDC taking action and laid the whole thing at the feet of Brett Kavanaugh. It appears to have been an effort coordinated between Pelosi, Waters, and Biden.

Outcome: Maxine got the rent moratorium extended, Nancy protected all of her members, and Joe got to make this about Brett Kavanaugh screwing up, rather than the CDC overreaching.

Speaker Pelosi's tactical release of a series of statements, press releases, and "Dear Colleague" missives while she, Representative Waters and President Biden were working together behind the scenes tells the story of how this got done.

https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/press-releases

Maxine Waters' using Brett Kavanaugh's concurrence to seal the deal was brilliant.

https://waters.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/letter-speaker-pelosi-rep-waters-continues-fight-renters
https://waters.house.gov/sites/waters.house.gov/files/8.2.21%20Pelosi%20CDC%20Eviction%20Moratorium.pdf

Maxine Waters bill to extend the moratorium provided the impetus
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/4791/text

[mcar]

22. Let me guess: this Meddi guy was slamming Democrats

because they didn't do it exactly like he wanted it done, including unicorns?

[lapucelle]

32. I can't say it enough, so I'll say it again. The Democratic strategy was masterful.

Representative Waters, Speaker Pelosi, and President Biden secured the rent moratorium extension, protected House members in swing districts, avoided involving the Senate, and forestalled Republican accusations of executive branch and CDC overreach, all because Brett Kavanaugh's concurring opinion in the SC decision opened the door.

And where was Leader Schumer while this was all being planned out? On the steps of the Capitol with Cori Bush, getting his picture taken and helping to keep the press distracted and busy.

It was a thing of beauty to behold.

And I think there is a unicorn. Cori Bush seems to have gotten the lion's share of glory that might rightfully belong to the seasoned Democrats who knew how to get the job done and then actually got the job done.

I guess for Maxine, Nancy, and Joe getting it done is more important than getting the credit.

[mcar]

33. It does sound like a masterful strategy

While the younger group was out doing their own thing, the leaders were actually getting stuff done. And yet it's still not good enough for some so-called progressives.

[Nexus2]

43. He is often aggressive in his commentary about them, even self righteous, IMO

That appears to be the mood of his show, even with a guest host. Though it can be informative, an interesting looks at different perspective that I admit, I agree at times. Though the Progressive faction of the party does seem really harsh on Biden, IMO.

[greatauntoftriplets]

24. That explains a lot.

Thanks.

[PghTiny]

25. Oh, the Intercept?

That was where Glenn Greenwald (Tucker 4-names’ bestie) was working before he left. Claimed editing is censorship…

[lapucelle]

27. Yes, and Hassan is apparently outraged that the Democratic leadership's solution

secured the rent moratorium extension, protected House members in swing districts, avoided involving the Senate, and forestalled Republican accusations of executive branch and CDC overreach, all because Brett Kavanaugh's concurring opinion in the SC decision opened the door.

And where was Leader Schumer while this was all being planned out? On the steps of the Capitol with Cori Bush, getting his picture taken and helping to keep the press distracted and busy.

I don't think it gets any more brilliant than this.

[Owl]

19. Never heard of him. A nobody.

[Nexus2]

48. Here you go, hope this helps

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan

[Takket]

29. i was wondering the same thing lol

[W_HAMILTON]

37. Someone who, as soon as you see him on TV, you should turn the channel...

...like I do.

[Nexus2]

41. He's a commentator on MSNBC and Peacock.

As for why should care, no more or less reason than you might care about him, Maddow or anything TV personality does, says or has on their show. They are myriad in either case. Its not as if this thread was mandatory reading.

It won't be on the final.

[Violet_Crumble]

50. Hello from Australia! I've heard of him. He's on MSNBC

I'm guessing anyone to the right of Atilla The Hun won't like him, but I see him appearing on YouTube asking things like why hasn't TFG been charged with trying to overthrow the election yet.

Here's a link to him. Maybe you are talking about someone else? He's pretty good so I highly recommend.mend you watch him. I also like watching the young turns. Have you heard of them?


https://m.

[brush]

6. Didn't it come out last week that eviction deadline also caught...

progressive reps unawares too. There was a post that explained Maxine Waters was up on it and Cori Bush caught wind of her efforts and then did her bit sleeping at the Capitol...sorta grabbing headlines.

And millions of rent money was provided in the Relief Bill. All states have to do is tap it and stop blaming Biden. The commentators and Congresspersons should work on tapping that available, already allocated money and stop grandstanding and complaining about the administration.

[lapucelle]

20. I think that may have been my Maxine Waters "thank you" thread.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100215702276

[brush]

21. I thank you for pointing that out. Hassan and many others haven't...

gotten the message yet.

[lapucelle]

23. Remember when Christine Pelosi said of her mother "She will cut your head off,

and you won't even know that you're bleeding"?

Christine was talking about guys like Hassan.

[brush]

26. Yes. I remember that. I'm a huge fan of the Speaker.

She looks out for her members, even the ones who give her a hard time. And I'm sure she's going to see that both infrastructure bills go through.

Love that she appropriated called McCarthy a moron.

[Greybnk48]

8. All 15 fo the people who tune in probably concur.

Who cares.

[agingdem]

13. but he vomits up this garbage with a British accent...

so it must be true...

[BlueLucy]

14. Biden already provided rent money and plenty of it!

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. The people who still owe have not applied for the rent help or never qualified for it.

[FloridaBlues]

15. I missed the beginning part but did anyone ask how many times she called the local agencies or state

To move this along? It was a fill in talking head tonight but he wasn’t any better than meddi. Turned off to watch something else.

[brooklynite]

18. Are we supposed to know who Meddi Hassan is?

[Nexus2]

49. I wouldn't say 'supposed' to know, but I gathered he was generally know though not a superstar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan

I hope this helps clear up what questions you might have.

[Mike Nelson]

31. Hmm...

... not familiar with Mehdi Hasan and I don't know who his guests were... I'm not an expert, but I think evictions are a process. Maybe she was evicted last year and it was stopped, then restarted? I guess, then, someone could be evicted that quickly? Also, a 72-year-old should have some protections, being a senor citizen!

[Nexus2]

46. Ah, I thought I might be mangling his name. I'll see to correcting it. Thanks [nt]

[Demsrule86]

36. This is why i never watch his lame show.

[North Shore Chicago]

39. This guy last night

was a guest host I believe. He does not look like Hassan, unless he had a massive hair implant.

[Nexus2]

40. Yep, he was a guest host but it was the Mehdi Hasan show. [nt]

Or that's how I've to think of it. His show on Peacock may have a different name. I'm sorry if you felt mislead.

[North Shore Chicago]

42. Yes, I suppose the guest

was reflecting Hasan's views. I was perturbed by that segment as well.

[Nexus2]

44. He does seem share Hassan's views, but largely seems to lack his general abrasive tone.

He's appeared on MSNBC several times.

[North Shore Chicago]

45. Thank you

[Meowmee]

47. I saw part of the interview by chance while visiting

My father in hospital. I felt terrible for this woman. She is 62, she has been fighting the eviction for several months with no help in sight. Her landlord recently locked her out illegally and she is living with a friend for a limited time. She said the pandemic has affected her situation but apparently she is not eligible for aid. I could not determine what the circumstances were from what I heard. You can google and watch the episode if you want to.