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Someone explain to me. Who does Antifa suppose to consist of? (Original Post) BrainMann1 Aug 2021 OP
American citizens opposed to facism. patphil Aug 2021 #1
Me. johnp3907 Aug 2021 #2
Lol nt bluedevil4 Aug 2021 #19
To me, it is my Grandfather who fought in WWII. aeromanKC Aug 2021 #3
Anyone who is against fascism. Reader Rabbit Aug 2021 #4
I am antifa I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2021 #9
I am AntiFa...n/t bluecollar2 Aug 2021 #5
As am I. brush Aug 2021 #7
Every soldier that fought in WWII cutroot Aug 2021 #6
We who stand against fascists. 7wo7rees Aug 2021 #8
Love that pic. I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2021 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Aug 2021 #11
My dearly departed father was an Antifa agitator... The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #13
See if this helps LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #14
Here's the facts. WarGamer Aug 2021 #17
The unsaid part? Jews... RockRaven Aug 2021 #15
So much confusion about Antifa WarGamer Aug 2021 #16
I wish others would get this right! LeftInTX Aug 2021 #22
You're right... WarGamer Aug 2021 #23
Seriously? A collective term for an unorganized group of people fighting Fascism - Anti -Fascist haele Aug 2021 #18
Snarky responses aside, my impression is that Antifa consists of left-of-left maxsolomon Aug 2021 #20
Perhaps a certain family member of mine flotsam2 Aug 2021 #21
just another REPUB red herring RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2021 #24

patphil

(6,150 posts)
1. American citizens opposed to facism.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:24 PM
Aug 2021

That's why the Republicans don't like them.
It's a philosophy, not an organization. No one heads it, no one directs it. It's just a patriotic response by people who stand opposed to those who want to destroy the Republic.
And right now that's the Republican party as headed by TFG.

Reader Rabbit

(2,624 posts)
4. Anyone who is against fascism.
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:25 PM
Aug 2021

In a democratic republic—which the United States purports to be—it should be the default position of all citizens.

Response to BrainMann1 (Original post)

The Unmitigated Gall

(3,779 posts)
12. My dearly departed father was an Antifa agitator...
Sun Aug 8, 2021, 11:56 PM
Aug 2021

...In WW ll. His high school best buddy was an Antifa thug as well, and died on Omaha Beach during an unauthorized demonstration.

Response to BrainMann1 (Original post)

WarGamer

(12,343 posts)
17. Here's the facts.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 01:32 AM
Aug 2021

Antifaschistische Aktion was started by Trotsky himself in the 1920's... in the Weimar Republic with the support of Lenin.

WarGamer

(12,343 posts)
16. So much confusion about Antifa
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 01:24 AM
Aug 2021

Last edited Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:12 AM - Edit history (3)

It's not a 21st Century creation from Portland... and it's NOT US GI's in 1944...

It began life in the 1920's as Antifaschistische Aktion, started by Communists in the Weimar Republic, supported by the new Boss in Russia. Antifa Action groups sprung up all over the world, even in the USA in the 1920's and 1930's and they still exist today.





LeftInTX

(25,117 posts)
22. I wish others would get this right!
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:40 PM
Aug 2021

I believe modern Antifa are anti-military and anti-authority and pretty much anti-government

I don't believe we should lump allied troops with Antifa...

I have no idea what happened to the Antifa groups during WWII.

They re-emerged in Europe after WWII with complaints that they didn't "do enough" to prevent the Nazis...

But I kinda doubt that their sticks would have a chance over the Nazis....

WarGamer

(12,343 posts)
23. You're right...
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 03:33 PM
Aug 2021

Patton would smack the shit out of any soldier calling himself ANTIFA. ANTIFASCHISTISCHE AKTION was founded by mass murderer and war criminal Leon Trotsky and was a front organization for the Russian Communist Party... aka the Red Army.


It's just history, I recommend people educate themselves.

haele

(12,640 posts)
18. Seriously? A collective term for an unorganized group of people fighting Fascism - Anti -Fascist
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:12 AM
Aug 2021

Now, that being said, some European anarchist cells will sometimes call themselves Antifa, because anyone who doesn't buy into their particular fantasy that all hierarchies are inherently oppressive (except, of course, for the ones they are on top in) is a Fascist.
Sort of like the Right calling anyone who isn't as conservative as they are Communists.

Antifa in America tends to comprise of anyone who can head out when there's a protest event to support some form of threatened Civil Rights and participate, whether they're part of an organized group (i.e., Moms for Justice), or just willing to go out and hold a sign in solidarity.

Not really organized, other than the local protest group who might be organized enough to apply for a permit on any particular event.

Haele

maxsolomon

(33,244 posts)
20. Snarky responses aside, my impression is that Antifa consists of left-of-left
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:28 AM
Aug 2021

young white people, though not exclusively. They are drawn from groups like Black Bloc, Anarchist collectives, and Direct Action. Lots of black-clad Punk Rock kids: Crusties, Crass patches (Crass is a 40-year old punk band). That is my impression, at least.

There are FB pages for various Antifa groups that appear real, like Rose City Antifa and Emerald City Antifa (I belong to both). The post related articles but never any organizing info, and they haven't posted much at all since Michael Reinoehl was shot down in the street by Federal "deputies".

Anyone can buy an Antifa flag, but you don't see Antifa until the Fascists come out of their holes: 3%ers, Proud Boys, skinheads. They're willing to oppose Fascism directly, with physical force.

flotsam2

(162 posts)
21. Perhaps a certain family member of mine
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 02:32 PM
Aug 2021

Who was also a member of "Occupy" and who rebuilt a steam table and delivered it (strapped to the roof of a Toyota) as part of his aid efforts after Hurricane Sandy. Arrested in a St. Patrick's day Occupy protest and beaten by cops. Cost him his job when he was held an extra 3 days for refusing a retinal scan. He also raised 2 grandsons of mine, the younger of whom recently graduated high school. In other words, my son, a fine activist citizen and exactly the kind of people we need more of...

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,664 posts)
24. just another REPUB red herring
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 04:04 PM
Aug 2021

to distract their brain dead followers. oh look Antifia are breaking stuff just like January 6th

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