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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:33 AM Aug 2021

As the IPCC says major climate changes inevitable and irreversible...

... the lack of urgency from world leaders just got way more serious...


Graphic mine.

Of course we cannot wait until 2050, apart from anything else, although this is a good analogy - if we don't stop dicking about the icebergs will have melted well before then... flood, fire, famine in 3...2...1...

The comprehensive assessment of climate science published on Monday, the sixth such report from the IPCC since 1988, has been eight years in the making, marshalling the work of hundreds of experts and peer-review studies. It represents the world’s full knowledge to date of the physical basis of climate change, and found that human activity was “unequivocally” the cause of rapid changes to the climate, including sea level rises, melting polar ice and glaciers, heatwaves, floods and droughts.

World leaders said the stark findings must force new policy measures as a matter of urgency, to shift the global economy to a low-carbon footing. Governments from 197 countries will meet this November in Glasgow for vital UN climate talks, called Cop26.

[link:https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/09/humans-have-caused-unprecedented-and-irreversible-change-to-climate-scientists-warn|]

I'm not sure even this report will be enough to move the dial of denial TBH.
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As the IPCC says major climate changes inevitable and irreversible... (Original Post) Soph0571 Aug 2021 OP
The main problem is Srkdqltr Aug 2021 #1
We also need China big time on board. I'm not sure they are interested. jimfields33 Aug 2021 #2
I think the main problem is the 6B+ people living on a planet that cannot sustain anywhere near that Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2021 #3

Srkdqltr

(6,271 posts)
1. The main problem is
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:49 AM
Aug 2021

People who could do something . who control the companies would have to spend money. I don't see them doing that.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
3. I think the main problem is the 6B+ people living on a planet that cannot sustain anywhere near that
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 11:21 AM
Aug 2021

many at anywhere near the average standard of living seen on the planet ... without massive quantities of High EROI fuel/energy sources, in particular portable liquid fuels.

It's also that we waited way too long to earnestly tackle it and now it's a disaster situation.

We are presently living on the energy of sunlight that was gathered over the span of 10's of million's of years ... burning that energy all up in the span of 100 years and change, so we can overpopulate the planet and live high on the hog for a blip of time as a species.

Without that vast source of stored energy, this earth can probably support more like 1-2B people tops. And that's if we'd never wrecked it like we have.

IMHO we're only going to be causing more damage trying to keep all these people alive thru a transition off of fossil fuels. At the very least, the entire world needs to be told they absolutely are morally wrong to have more than 1 child moving forward.

That's the single most important thing we can do ... discourage people from having children.

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