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babylonsister

(171,034 posts)
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:27 PM Aug 2021

Chuck Grassley Argues On The Senate Floor That Trump Has A Right To Plot A Coup

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/08/09/chuck-grassley-argues-on-the-senate-floor-that-trump-has-a-right-to-plot-a-coup.html

Posted on Mon, Aug 9th, 2021 by Jason Easley
Chuck Grassley Argues On The Senate Floor That Trump Has A Right To Plot A Coup


Standing on the same ground that was attacked on 1/6, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) claimed on the Senate floor that Trump has a right to plot a coup.

Chuck Grassley Called Trump’s Coup Plot A Robust Discussion With His Advisors

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
"The president has every right to discuss ideas & strategies with his closest advisors ... for robust discussion" -- Grassley is talking here about Trump's attempts to scheme with the DOJ to overthrow a free and fair election https://t.co/JjItHbsW99



Grassley said, “The President has every right to discuss ideas and strategies with his closest advisers, whether that president is Democrat(ic) or Republican should feel unrestrained to bring ideas to his closest staff for robust discussion. Eventually, the facts will come out, and Trump will have to address them, good or bad depending on the facts at hand. However, the essential question that should be asked is, what was the final decision? And that is my major concern about the recent public comments coming out of these interviews I’ve discussed.”


Chuck Grassley Seems To Be Saying That It Is Fine To Plot A Coup As Long As A President Doesn’t Do It.

Sen. Grassley seemed to be suggesting that plotting a coup is just “locker room talk.” Unless the government is actually overthrown, then it is no harm, no foul.

The problem is that the 1/6 attack was more than talk. Trump funded the rally, his White House communicated and coordinated with the attackers, and he incited the attack.

Trump’s talk of trying to force the DOJ to overturn the election is part of a broader plot. His pressure on the DOJ and the 1/6 attack are part of the same thread, and no Sen. Grassley, presidents do not get to plot coups after they lose elections.

That’s not democracy. That’s authoritarianism.
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Chuck Grassley Argues On The Senate Floor That Trump Has A Right To Plot A Coup (Original Post) babylonsister Aug 2021 OP
I was hoping this was from The Onion. BeckyDem Aug 2021 #1
Nope. Flyover Country's finest. And they wonder why they're ridiculed. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #24
Hey Chuck, here's the definition of sedition, which is a federal crime. sinkingfeeling Aug 2021 #2
I'll just add Chuck "Up" Grass-ass-ley to my list of trasonous traitors and recommend that he abqtommy Aug 2021 #3
Sorry, but there's WAY too many MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #14
I kept saying it was over to get people to pay attention. Now it probably is. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2021 #4
I hear ya! AND bluestarone Aug 2021 #8
And there is now more than enough evidence to indict trump, if it was a democrat the indictment Eliot Rosewater Aug 2021 #10
Nothing's over. Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #27
I love the optimism but the gop is no longer a political party. They are not going Eliot Rosewater Aug 2021 #28
Time to put Ol' Chuck out to pasture. His reasonings skills have diminished... brush Aug 2021 #5
Yep! Time to go graze on the MyOwnPeace Aug 2021 #7
I'll bet this traitor actually thinks he's a true American patriot. Brother Mythos Aug 2021 #9
Imay need to come back to this one - Thanks rurallib Aug 2021 #11
Sounds like a "Just locker room talk" rehash. displacedtexan Aug 2021 #12
The problem is dianaredwing Aug 2021 #13
trump is a Treasonous Loser.. Fuck NO Cha Aug 2021 #15
Isn't he past his multigraincracker Aug 2021 #16
he pull this out of TFG's fat ass. he is not that smart !! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #17
go home chuck. worms are corkscrewing in your brain. spanone Aug 2021 #18
He's running again BradAllison Aug 2021 #19
Sounds like sedition to me: Poiuyt Aug 2021 #20
Sounds like slightlv Aug 2021 #21
Hard to have respect for someone area51 Aug 2021 #22
Aaron Rupar's correction of Grassley ('Democrat(ic)') is wrong Lord Ludd Aug 2021 #23
I think the word is "conspiracy." n/t Harker Aug 2021 #25
Sometimes I have trouble digesting what I read. Paper Roses Aug 2021 #26
Wow, Grassley is just so freaking racist. BradBo Aug 2021 #29
Kick for all to see....Thank You For Posting This Article..no text.. Stuart G Aug 2021 #30
At least one Dem running for his seat. moondust Aug 2021 #31
This guys got to go. He's 87 years old and looks to be in his mid nineties. argyl Aug 2021 #32

sinkingfeeling

(51,438 posts)
2. Hey Chuck, here's the definition of sedition, which is a federal crime.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:31 PM
Aug 2021

Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent toward, or insurrection against, established authority. ... Seditious words in writing are seditious libel.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. I'll just add Chuck "Up" Grass-ass-ley to my list of trasonous traitors and recommend that he
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:31 PM
Aug 2021

be given living space at Gitmo right next to Former Orange Lardo.

Response to abqtommy (Reply #3)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
4. I kept saying it was over to get people to pay attention. Now it probably is.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:32 PM
Aug 2021

I believe the GOP will refuse to certify any election they lose from here on in.

bluestarone

(16,859 posts)
8. I hear ya! AND
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:41 PM
Aug 2021

AGREE 100% They are out to DESTROY this country. 170 QTHUGS in the house right now PROVES YOUR POINT!! (in my books)

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
10. And there is now more than enough evidence to indict trump, if it was a democrat the indictment
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 08:19 PM
Aug 2021

would be done already.

Unfortunately he wont be indicted because in America the media will NOT allow it.

They will make it impossible so that any party or DOJ that did indict him would be attacked constantly by the media and the right
and the media and right would completely delegitimize them etc.


We let them get away with calling the media liberal, this is our fault, the nations fault.

Elessar Zappa

(13,909 posts)
27. Nothing's over.
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 10:54 AM
Aug 2021

We’ve been through much worse as a nation and we survived and improved. We weren’t even a democracy until the 60s when the Voting Rights bill was passed. We’ll get through this.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
28. I love the optimism but the gop is no longer a political party. They are not going
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 12:14 PM
Aug 2021

to obey the law, they are not going to certify any election they lose, etc.

brush

(53,742 posts)
5. Time to put Ol' Chuck out to pasture. His reasonings skills have diminished...
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:36 PM
Aug 2021

past their expiration date.

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
7. Yep! Time to go graze on the
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 07:40 PM
Aug 2021

green, green Grass-ley of home............ (sorry, couldn't pass it up!)

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
13. The problem is
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:18 PM
Aug 2021

that people were killed. Property was destroyed. This wasn't some god damned rehearsal for a reality television show. What the f..k is wrong with people?

Cha

(296,848 posts)
15. trump is a Treasonous Loser.. Fuck NO
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:23 PM
Aug 2021

he had no rights to incite a Deadly Domestic Terrorist Insurrection

spanone

(135,791 posts)
18. go home chuck. worms are corkscrewing in your brain.
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:38 PM
Aug 2021

...and on your way, explain how people died from 'locker room talk'

Poiuyt

(18,114 posts)
20. Sounds like sedition to me:
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 09:43 PM
Aug 2021

Under federal law, sedition occurs when two or more persons conspire to commit certain actions against the United States (U.S.) government. The conspiracy to commit such acts is sedition, whether or not the actions are actually attempted or carried out.

conspiring to take down, overthrow or destroy by force the U.S. government
levying war against the U.S. government
opposing the authority of the U.S. government by force
hindering, delaying or preventing any U.S. law from being carried out
taking, seizing or possessing U.S. government property via force

slightlv

(2,769 posts)
21. Sounds like
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:30 PM
Aug 2021

someone's trying desperately to cover his own butt. Gods, I'd have figured he'd have been too old for any of that foolishness. I never liked him as a politician, but I at least used to have a modicum of respect for him. No more now... ya done burnt that bridge, old feller. Might as well go off and retire on a farm somewhere...

Lord Ludd

(585 posts)
23. Aaron Rupar's correction of Grassley ('Democrat(ic)') is wrong
Mon Aug 9, 2021, 10:43 PM
Aug 2021

When used as a noun, as is the case here, 'Democrat' is correct.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
32. This guys got to go. He's 87 years old and looks to be in his mid nineties.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 12:41 AM
Aug 2021

He's been a Senator since 1980 and will have served for 42 years when his term expires in 2022.
And he's talking about running for re-election in 2022. That'd make him 94 should be win again. Hell, run in 2028, Chuckie. You'd be a 100 year old US Senator. That is just beyond ridiculous.

Just his defense of The Dotard's coup plotting should at the least get him out of office and hopefully jail.
I don't give a fuck how old he is.

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