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UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 09:54 PM Aug 2021

California dad killed his kids over QAnon and 'serpent DNA' conspiracy theories, feds claim

A California surfing school owner who was charged with killing his two children in Mexico is a follower of QAnon and Illuminati conspiracy theories who thought the children "were going to grow into monsters so he had to kill them," federal officials alleged.

Matthew Taylor Coleman, 40, was charged Wednesday with foreign murder of U.S. nationals in connection with the death of his 2-year-old son and his 10-month-old daughter, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Central District of California. Authorities said Coleman confessed to the killings and told the FBI that he used a spear fishing gun to stab them.

A criminal complaint alleges that he told the FBI that he killed his children because he believed they "were going to grow into monsters" and that conspiracy theories led him to believe that his wife had passed down her "serpent DNA" to the children.

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According to the complaint, Coleman said that he knew what he did was wrong but that "it was the only course of action that would save the world."

More at:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-dad-killed-his-kids-over-qanon-serpent-dna-conspiracy-n1276611

Mass psychosis in a manner never seen before has afflicted our society

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California dad killed his kids over QAnon and 'serpent DNA' conspiracy theories, feds claim (Original Post) UpInArms Aug 2021 OP
Put him to death vercetti2021 Aug 2021 #1
He's obviously psychotic. wnylib Aug 2021 #21
Absolutely not. The death penalty is an abomination. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #29
Murdering children should be automatic death vercetti2021 Aug 2021 #32
Well, I don't believe in hell. So there's that. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #33
The death penalty is murder obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #37
This happened in Mexico. No death penalty there. maveric Aug 2021 #40
yeah... life in prison is enough Demovictory9 Aug 2021 #36
A mental. jeffreyi Aug 2021 #2
I do sincerely hope that the new infrastructure provisions allow for expanding mental health abqtommy Aug 2021 #3
QAnon (who ever is running it) is above the law it seems. Justice matters. Aug 2021 #25
Whoever it is has not made a 'drop' or whatever it is called for 8 months GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #31
It seems he knew the nature and consequences of his act and that it was wrong. Marcuse Aug 2021 #4
Good lord... Blue Owl Aug 2021 #5
There is a brand of antihumanism that promotes this savagery. David__77 Aug 2021 #6
Release him to general population dalton99a Aug 2021 #7
Can you find a pic without the children ornotna Aug 2021 #10
Maybe it is just me because I have read this post. . . The woman's smile is genuine, niyad Aug 2021 #22
have not talked to my cousin in a year KT2000 Aug 2021 #8
This shit is dangerous for your health - both physically and mentally. Initech Aug 2021 #9
I've brought up several times Upthevibe Aug 2021 #11
I don't understand why things like 4chan haven't been smashed. David__77 Aug 2021 #12
It's whack a mole, they keep starting new sites when they get shut down IronLionZion Aug 2021 #14
If the sites are kept on the run, it helps prevent them from being organizing centers. David__77 Aug 2021 #17
The US government can't shut them down of course madville Aug 2021 #18
Yeah, I agree. joshcryer Aug 2021 #35
i did a google image search on them NJCher Aug 2021 #13
They openly started the Qanon superpac IronLionZion Aug 2021 #15
throw away the key - that creature is beyond reach bringthePaine Aug 2021 #16
'Religion' based stuff like this has been going on forever. Jon King Aug 2021 #19
How many of them are right-to-lifers? fierywoman Aug 2021 #20
Some people should never be allowed on the internet FakeNoose Aug 2021 #23
Qanon does not create the psychoses wnylib Aug 2021 #24
Exactly, cults target the already mentally ill or very vulnerable. Jon King Aug 2021 #26
Q-Anon. Out of touch with reality. oasis Aug 2021 #27
We can add Matthew Coleman to the "No critical thinking skills" list. KS Toronado Aug 2021 #28
Send him straight to Death Row. calimary Aug 2021 #30
All this mental illness talk pisses me off. That's not mental illness. GulfCoast66 Aug 2021 #34
Or he could've sent them to school without masks mainer Aug 2021 #38
WTF? sakabatou Aug 2021 #39

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
1. Put him to death
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 09:57 PM
Aug 2021

Monsters like this are a huge danger to normal society. Along with the ones putting out these conspiracies like Alex Jones and those other freaks

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
29. Absolutely not. The death penalty is an abomination.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:30 AM
Aug 2021

Does he deserve it? I guess you could make the argument. But too many condemned to that fate are the ones in our society are victims of circumstances of birth.

Not saying I want him to ever see freedom again. I don’t. But I hate the death penalty.

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
32. Murdering children should be automatic death
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:40 AM
Aug 2021

Taken from a chance to live a full life. I don't think the death penalty should be there due to innocent people who are wrongly convicted. But this asshole confessed. He should be rotting in hell asap

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
33. Well, I don't believe in hell. So there's that.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:43 AM
Aug 2021

But I think we would be a much better nation if we agreed that our government will never kill us under the color of law.

obamanut2012

(26,067 posts)
37. The death penalty is murder
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 05:26 AM
Aug 2021

Do you also believe the state should sentence rapists to corrective rape? I mean, if the state can murder, they should be able to rape, too, right?

The death penalty is what barbarians do.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. I do sincerely hope that the new infrastructure provisions allow for expanding mental health
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:36 PM
Aug 2021

services to the scale that everyone who needs help will get it and we won't have to read about the
murders of innocent children.

Justice matters.

(6,925 posts)
25. QAnon (who ever is running it) is above the law it seems.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:06 AM
Aug 2021
How much more damages that a--hole will be able to get away with scot-free?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
31. Whoever it is has not made a 'drop' or whatever it is called for 8 months
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:39 AM
Aug 2021

Now it’s just the crazies feeder themselves.

I never signed up for Facebook or any other social media site. I saw early on it was toxic.

It allows people to live in an insular environment.

Like what supports your preconceptions opinions. Ignore what does not.

David__77

(23,369 posts)
6. There is a brand of antihumanism that promotes this savagery.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:41 PM
Aug 2021

Web phenomena like 4chan are aligned with this. That they have gotten hundreds of thousands of “normies” to engage in mass psychosis is a great victory to them.

niyad

(113,245 posts)
22. Maybe it is just me because I have read this post. . . The woman's smile is genuine,
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:01 AM
Aug 2021

the little girl looks scared, and there is something creepy about his grimace/bared teeth. Note the dead eyes.

KT2000

(20,572 posts)
8. have not talked to my cousin in a year
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:49 PM
Aug 2021

that is normal. Yesterday she called me to tell me to watch FAUX news because they tell the truth. Then she rattled off every RW trope you could think of. I held my own but this was just nuts. That was all she wanted to talk about and I suspect she has crossed the Rubicon. Two down, who knows how many more in my family will go over the edge.

Upthevibe

(8,035 posts)
11. I've brought up several times
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:16 PM
Aug 2021

that I ended a friendship in September because of QAnon.

Ron and Jim Watkins are believed to have started "Q".

Something needs to be done!

David__77

(23,369 posts)
12. I don't understand why things like 4chan haven't been smashed.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:19 PM
Aug 2021

It would not be hard and there could be no fingerprints.

IronLionZion

(45,420 posts)
14. It's whack a mole, they keep starting new sites when they get shut down
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:34 PM
Aug 2021

usually their hosting provider or security service drops them after something bad happens like a mass shooting. Those guys are Americans living in the Philippines so the laws are different there.

David__77

(23,369 posts)
17. If the sites are kept on the run, it helps prevent them from being organizing centers.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:45 PM
Aug 2021

I’ve thought perhaps another country might take initiative on that front- maybe Germany or another country interested in countering fascist-type organizing and hotbeds of murder.

madville

(7,408 posts)
18. The US government can't shut them down of course
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:53 PM
Aug 2021

That pesky 1st amendment. Have to rely on corporations to police their platforms but that gets trickier when they are based/hosted offshore.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
35. Yeah, I agree.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 04:38 AM
Aug 2021

Gore sites have been squashed but somehow 4chan still persists. My belief is that 4chan is a honeypot for psychos/crazies and you hear from time to time guys going to jail for posting crazy shit there. The thing is the mass killers who post on sites like that (Christchurch) will not leave traces, they will post one link and it'll immediately be deleted by the mods then they'll go on their spree.

Meanwhile the psychosis that is permitting them to become that way is allowed under the guise of some idea of free speech. It's mind poison. There are no doubt many many people on that site who have severe mental issues and it is only being bolstered by trolls and other people with mental issues.

NJCher

(35,650 posts)
13. i did a google image search on them
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:33 PM
Aug 2021

I wonder if their followers would be following them if they knew how squirrely they look.

IronLionZion

(45,420 posts)
15. They openly started the Qanon superpac
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:36 PM
Aug 2021

to help candidates who believe in Qanon conspiracies. Those 2 are up to their eyeballs in Q.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
19. 'Religion' based stuff like this has been going on forever.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 11:54 PM
Aug 2021

How many mothers and fathers have killed their kids because of religious possession beliefs? Been going on forever.

Qanon, Jonestown, parents killing kids to rid them of demons.....sadly, the people drawn to Qanon have always been drawn to some deranged beliefs.

FakeNoose

(32,626 posts)
23. Some people should never be allowed on the internet
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:05 AM
Aug 2021

I believe we should all be required to pass a test for critical analysis before we're allowed to surf the internet. There's just too much wackiness out there.

This guy is a perfect example.

wnylib

(21,425 posts)
24. Qanon does not create the psychoses
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:05 AM
Aug 2021

that their followers demonstrate. It intentionally targets people with mental issues and feeds their mental imbalances.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
26. Exactly, cults target the already mentally ill or very vulnerable.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:07 AM
Aug 2021

No doubt this guy has exhibited mental illness from a young age.

KS Toronado

(17,191 posts)
28. We can add Matthew Coleman to the "No critical thinking skills" list.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:10 AM
Aug 2021

What a shame for children so young, and all because right wing news media brainwashed him.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
34. All this mental illness talk pisses me off. That's not mental illness.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 01:00 AM
Aug 2021

It’s a person who has bought into a theology of hate.

Were the Crusaders Mentally ill? Were the Islamic fighters who conquered North Africa and Spain Mentality ill? Were the Nazi’s? Or Stalin and his henchmen who killed millions? Or the Aztecs cutting out the still beating hearts of their captives? I could state a hundred other examples. And keep going.

Killing in the name of ideology is as human as breathing. It is not at all mentally illness.

It’s what we rational, science based people fight against.

This dude knew exactly what he was doing and why he did it. He knew the consequences. That not mentally ill. He admits it.

I have loved ones who have true mental illness. If they stop taking their medications they become a danger to themselves.

There was no medication you could give this guy because he was thinking clearly the entire time. He just believes in a batshit crazy religion. And have not doubts, it’s now a religion.

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