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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 09:56 PM Aug 2021

Biden is on the cusp of becoming the most consequential president since LBJ.

At least from the left's perspective. Reagan was pretty consequential in unraveling a lot of the New Deal.

But the fact Biden is doing this with essentially a divided Senate is remarkable.

I'll be honest, folks, when Biden won, and it looked like, at best we were looking at a 50/50 Senate, I did not have much confidence in getting a lot done.

Boy was I wrong. Biden is not only delivering - he's delivering BIG.

I really hope progressives and liberals remember this moment and work their butts off to give him a much larger Senate majority in 2023 and enough wins in the House to keep it.

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Biden is on the cusp of becoming the most consequential president since LBJ. (Original Post) Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 OP
Don't forget... consequential doesn't always mean "good" WarGamer Aug 2021 #1
He's both thankfully. nt babylonsister Aug 2021 #10
I love President Biden demtenjeep Aug 2021 #2
Me 2 XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #5
You're right. Biden is doing great in getting infrastructure... brush Aug 2021 #3
If Biden can talk Manchin/Sinema into a Voting Rights fil carve out... Funtatlaguy Aug 2021 #4
I will personally help to pour the bronze. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #22
Biden's plan is bigger and better than the New Deal! Greybnk48 Aug 2021 #6
Public Child Care, Public Colleges...AMAZING!!! Beetwasher. Aug 2021 #21
And he is doing it calmly and rationally. Such a relief. I love him. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #7
Yes sir. Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #8
After 7 months his legacy is cemented underpants Aug 2021 #9
Yes Johnny2X2X Aug 2021 #23
And all hail his swift actions on covid. He has saved lives, lots of them. nt babylonsister Aug 2021 #11
K&R Blue Owl Aug 2021 #12
I'm optimistic and pleased Deuxcents Aug 2021 #13
Yup, as long as Dems stay united in supporting Biden's BIG agenda, his presidency will be historic Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #14
He's doing an excellent job, but I can't fully agree with you ecstatic Aug 2021 #15
Unfortunately, his approval ratings on RCP and 538 averages NewsCenter28 Aug 2021 #16
lol Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #18
Not giddy at all-pissed? Yes very. NewsCenter28 Aug 2021 #19
Mid terms are historically lost by the party that holds the presidency. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #20
This poster is also lying about Clinton's approval. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #25
You are making up numbers now. Drunken Irishman Aug 2021 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author NewsCenter28 Aug 2021 #26
Joe has been doing an amazing job LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #17
K&R betsuni Aug 2021 #27
I just wish that so-called "progressives" on Twitter (and elsewhere) would stop... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #28

WarGamer

(12,369 posts)
1. Don't forget... consequential doesn't always mean "good"
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:03 PM
Aug 2021

3: having significant consequences : IMPORTANT

a grave and consequential event
consequential decisions


I'd argue that Trump was the most consequential President since FDR.

A complete reversal of the Federal Court System and a takeover of SCOTUS plus weaponizing politics into the Capitol Attack. Two impeachments, widespread corruption and many would argue, actual crimes in the White House.


And re: President Biden... he's been extremely good, better than most expected. He's owning the political "center" and quietly working for more progressive goals.

brush

(53,743 posts)
3. You're right. Biden is doing great in getting infrastructure...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:06 PM
Aug 2021

bills done that have been neglected/delayed for generations now. You should also throw in Reagan disrupted many of LBJ's Great Society programs too.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
4. If Biden can talk Manchin/Sinema into a Voting Rights fil carve out...
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:06 PM
Aug 2021

He will deserve a statue while he’s still alive.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
22. I will personally help to pour the bronze.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:30 AM
Aug 2021

And I know nothing about casting bronze.

If he gets a major voting rights fix, he'll go down in history with Lincoln and MLK.

If he doesn't, we'll all go down.

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
6. Biden's plan is bigger and better than the New Deal!
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:07 PM
Aug 2021

As much as I love LBJ, Biden's closer to FDR. What he's doing is bigger than Medicare and Medicaid. He's changing the lives of millions for the better and changing our society with public daycare and expanding public school to the college level, just to name two things!

I never thought I would live to see this, but now I think I will.

Beetwasher.

(2,968 posts)
21. Public Child Care, Public Colleges...AMAZING!!!
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:27 AM
Aug 2021

Yup. grand, societal changes that will lift millions out of poverty.

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
8. Yes sir.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:12 PM
Aug 2021

This $3.5T deal which will probably get negotiated down a bit will make him the most consequential President since FDR, zero doubt.

underpants

(182,631 posts)
9. After 7 months his legacy is cemented
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:19 PM
Aug 2021

Last edited Thu Aug 12, 2021, 11:14 AM - Edit history (1)

First, he slayed the dragon.

The vaccine roll out is noted as the best in the world.

The infrastructure deal is seismic.

He’s been very very impressive.

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
23. Yes
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:34 AM
Aug 2021

And don't forget the American Rescue plan which was way different than the previous stimulus in that it helped working people the most and gave parents money to help care for their children.

7 months in and he has 2 major pieces of legislation through and helped distributed 350 Million doses of the vaccine.

Any other President could cruise through the next 3 years and win re-election easily, but Biden wants a lot more for the people.

Deuxcents

(16,088 posts)
13. I'm optimistic and pleased
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 10:36 PM
Aug 2021

Having said that.. it’s only 7 months in. We need to elect those that will enable his plans to happen. House, Senate, governors and all down the ballot meanwhile. I’m happy so far

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
15. He's doing an excellent job, but I can't fully agree with you
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 12:18 AM
Aug 2021

until my right to vote and have it properly counted is fully restored. How can there be an increased majority when key parts of the democratic base have been systematically disenfranchised?

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
16. Unfortunately, his approval ratings on RCP and 538 averages
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 01:00 AM
Aug 2021

Are only slightly better than Trump at this point in his term and falling rapidly daily. He has a LOT of work to do to save his presidency, let alone the congressional majorities, and right now (especially given the Manchin and Sinema statements-Manchin essentially killed the social infrastructure bill today) plus the pandemic of the unvaccinated exploding plus no response to the GOP voter suppression plus the Taliban sweeping through Afghanistan, it's not looking good. At all.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
18. lol
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 03:24 AM
Aug 2021

His average approval on 538 is 50.3 and disapproval 43.3. If you can find me any moment where Trump was +7 in approval, I'll delete this post.

Seems like you're a bit giddy here, though.

NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
19. Not giddy at all-pissed? Yes very.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 04:15 AM
Aug 2021

The fact that his approval rating is this low is shocking to me. Roughly comparable to Bill Clinton, who suffered a midterm shellacking. Any scenario which results in Speaker Kevin MCCarthy is not palatable to me at all and that seems where we're headed. I don't want triangulation for the 3rd consecutive Dem presidency. I want Biden, Pelosi and Schumer to have at least 6 years like Bush, Hastert and Lott/Frist did. You can't deny these numbers would result in a midterm shellacking.

Wake up. We're in trouble. The thing that sucks the most is we didn't even do anything to deserve this. By any objective historic metric of presidential success, we should be enjoying 55%+ approval right now. No scandal. Soaring economy. Stock Market highest ever. Huge legislative accomplishments on COVID and physical infrastructure....

Any thoughts you have on why the numbers are what they are would be greatly appreciated.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
20. Mid terms are historically lost by the party that holds the presidency.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 06:04 AM
Aug 2021

But if we all show up unlike 10 with the message voting BS, I am optimistic.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
25. This poster is also lying about Clinton's approval.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 06:42 PM
Aug 2021

By this point, Clinton was 4 points underwater in his approval (44 to 48). Biden is 7 points ABOVE water.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
24. You are making up numbers now.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 06:38 PM
Aug 2021

You're not even presenting facts.

Bill Clinton's approval on 8/12/93, according to Gallup, was 44% and 48% disapproval.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx

That's a -4 margin compared to a + 7 for Biden (so a difference of 11% between the two. Hardly what anyone, beyond someone with an ulterior motive, would call comparable.

You're pushing a narrative using bullshit facts that you're either making up or pulling from some alt-right site who is purposely attempting to set the narrative that Biden is in trouble.

Stop it.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
28. I just wish that so-called "progressives" on Twitter (and elsewhere) would stop...
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 06:33 AM
Aug 2021

... doing their level best to undermine and weaken him. Rather than to bask in the progress that's being made, they prefer to complain that it's "not enough" and instead prefer to name-call and try to kneecap him with their toxic rhetoric. From politicians to pundits... all their negativity and hostility toward Democrats and toward the Biden/Harris administration serves no good purpose. It only serves to divide and weaken. It creates resentment and distrust. (And that only benefits the GOP, and Russia.)

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