How Andrew Sullivan Learned To Stop Worrying And Live With Your Kid Dying Of COVID-19

[Nevilledog]

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Conservative author Andrew Sullivan was on Anderson Cooper's CNN show Tuesday night pitching his innovative plan to ignore the coronavirus. This is something no one else has considered. He'd written an article a few weeks ago called "Let It Rip: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Live With The Virus." The title alludes to Stanley Kubrick's 1964 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb, a film that ends with the world's destruction, so already you know Sullivan's argument is top-notch.

[T[his seems to me to be the key question here: do we really want to get back to living? I do. So take the rational precautions — a solid vaccine — and go about your business as you always did. Yes, I'll wear a mask indoors if I'm legally required or politely asked. But I don't really see why anyone should. In a free society, once everyone has access to a vaccine that overwhelmingly prevents serious sickness and death, there is no reason to enforce lockdowns again, or mask mandates, or social distancing any longer. In fact, there's every reason not to.

Ta-Nehisi Coates once noted that Sullivan was among many star journalists he'd worked with who didn't see Black people "completely as human being(s)." Sullivan was never on the Trump train, but he's actively promoted white grievance politics lately. We mention this because Sullivan can't resist describing both "white Republicans/evangelicals and urban African-Americans" as “vaccine holdouts." The Washington Post pointed out last week that Black people are actually "much less likely than Republicans to say that they refuse to be vaccinated," so it's not fair to say they're “holdouts." There are also structural problems related to access.

But if you're going to endanger human lives with a “screw the pandemic" mentality, it's helpful if you can claim that anyone who gets sick had it coming.

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[H2O Man]

1. Recommended.

Gracious, I have to disagree with him on the need to wear masks in public places.

[dalton99a]

2. But he can't be a racist because he went to Harvard and he's got a British accent

Sullivan is a conservative intellectual, which means if you ask him if he should care about other people, particularly if it inconveniences him, he'll respond with lots of fancy words that basically mean "no."

[lagomorph777]

3. I recognize that quote. A DUer recently posted it as their own words.

That DUer disappeared shortly after I alerted on the post.

I wonder whether that might have been Sullivan himself.

[TheRealNorth]

4. The only problem....

Is what do we do with hospitals overflowing with Covid cases. I would prefer not to have masks or shutdowns again, but I also don't want hospitals closed and unable to treat me if I have a medical emergency because they are too busy treating covid cases that mostly could have been prevented.

[Midnight Writer]

5. I recall Bartcop labeled Sullivan "Bareback Andy" because he was against condoms during AIDS crisis.

[gratuitous]

8. Also because at that time, Andy had AIDS

And bragged about engaging in unprotected sex. After all, he couldn't get more infected with AIDS, and too bad for his sexual partners.

So now, what's it to Sullivan if every kid 12 and under who can't yet be vaccinated is put at risk by irresponsible pandemic behavior? As with anything else, if it doesn't affect Andrew Sullivan personally and directly, he couldn't care less about the results of his own nostrums and advice.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

15. I met him once It was all I could do to not laugh at the sawed off runt in his leathr gestapo outfit

[Caliman73]

6. What I have been saying all along. Trump is particularly odious but this is not a Trump problem...

Conservatism is the problem. The whole ideology is built on the idea that there is some sort of natural hierarchy and that those who are wealthy, are naturally superior to other people and therefore have the right to be in charge. It is taken from the same belief system that supported the concept of monarchy and aristocracy. When you subscribe to that type of philosophy, you can certainly come to the conclusion that certain people deserve whatever they get because they are not chosen to be on top.

Anyone who is a conservative, subscribes to some extent, to the above ideology. There are those who are less in its thrall, but conservatism is typically what leads to fascism.

I have asked this a bunch of times. Why is it that Trump, who has been a Democrat, a Republican, and Independent, chose to run as a Republican? He ran in the 90's as a Libertarian or Independent but he has NEVER run as a Democratic Party candidate, why?

The answer is that liberalism, is incompatible with his belief system. Liberalism is incompatible with ANY conservative belief system. I am not talking policies, I am talking belief system. Anyone can be for "fiscal responsibility". It isn't a great idea to spend way more than you take in. The difference isn't in fiscal responsibility or not, it is in what it means and where you spend (what is considered foolish spending. To Republicans/Conservatives throwing trillions of dollars at the military over a decade is fine, but spending anything on bringing people out of poverty is foolish. Why? Because poor people deserve to be poor, if they didn't they would not be so. Small Government, well left leaning people want a small surveillance state and no foreign imperialism. That is smaller government. They also want a robust system in place to promote the general welfare. Conservatives don't care about the size of government, they care about the function. They want a large surveillance state and the ability of government to regulate a woman's reproduction. They also want a government that is generally impotent against regulation of private industry and capital. Donald Trump would NEVER run as a Democrat because he would get laughed off stage. Bloomberg ran as a Democrat and basically we told him. We'll take your money, but shove your policies and ideas up your ass.

Again, conservatism is not compatible with a modern, progressive society because it is mired in tradition and advocacy for some form of monarchism and aristocracy. That is why Sullivan is able to have that "let the chips fall where they may" attitude.

[Dawson Leery]

9. Everything you said.

And there is nothing more evil than a British Conservative. Their philosophies are baked in the bile of Calvinism.

[Caliman73]

12. Interesting.

As I was writing my response, I definitely had the thought of discussing Calvinism and the idea of the "select" and predestination. You are 100 percent right. That idea came to America with the Puritans

[Dawson Leery]

13. Predestination is voodoo with no Biblical merit.

That putrid belief has caused incalculable damage.

[Carlitos Brigante]

7. Still the same hack he's always been. No surprises there... nt

[maxsolomon]

10. There are Af-Am vaccine "holdouts", mainly due to lack of trust in the Medical Industry

Or access issues, as noted.

There aren't a majority of Af-Ams, but they exist. I don't know what percentage of the unvaxxed they are; I'd assume it is a minor component.

We ARE all going to have to learn to live with it; it won't go away at current vaccination levels. Really imperative to get the under-12s vaxxed.

If Refusers get sick and die, we all have to live with that, too. We've been doing that for a year and a half; it's not going to be that tough for me.

[Paladin]

11. Sullivan is still the same douchebag he's always been.

"...once everybody has access to a vaccine" sure as hell doesn't mean that everybody's vaccinated---not by a long shot. And if masks are such a bad and intrusive idea, how come doctors and health care personnel have been wearing them for centuries?

OK, that's enough of my time spent on a nonentity like Sullivan.

[dsc]

14. Given his irresponsibility in regards to HIV this is hardly surprising

most gay men learned the important lesson from HIV to be responsible in regards to viruses, but some didn't. He is one who didn't.

[budkin]

16. Hate that MFer

Begone.