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drray23

(7,627 posts)
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:00 PM Aug 2021

I don't think the pillow guy is just a grifter

I think he is actually insane , not pretending to be for the benefit of the magats. He really believes his own delusions. I just saw on CNN a segment about his cyber summit and how it went. This guy should be led away in a straight jacket.

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I don't think the pillow guy is just a grifter (Original Post) drray23 Aug 2021 OP
I just saw that, too XanaDUer2 Aug 2021 #1
Likely his pillow business is losing money and he's flailing around, No Vested Interest Aug 2021 #2
Agreed....the man is not well. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #8
If 'margarine' is wonderfully fine with people succumbing to this covid as she has so clearly sprinkleeninow Aug 2021 #11
It Is ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #27
Trump poisoning. The Wizard Aug 2021 #3
I agree MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #4
He will be back on the pipe in 3...2...1 hookaleft Aug 2021 #5
If he loses that law suit.... SergeStorms Aug 2021 #17
It is way past time for his family to have an intervention with him. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #6
Yes imagine that. Britney Spears can't shake out her conservatorship drray23 Aug 2021 #7
So True DET Aug 2021 #15
A white, male, Republican can get away with criminality or insanity. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #25
Along with Louie Gohmert vapor2 Aug 2021 #9
He could always turn his talents into evangelical preaching IcyPeas Aug 2021 #10
No, he's also a freaking maniac. marble falls Aug 2021 #12
I think he has alienated his family FelineOverlord Aug 2021 #13
Wow. progressoid Aug 2021 #16
Wow. FelineOverlord Aug 2021 #18
And probably embarassed beyond belief at this family member... No Vested Interest Aug 2021 #24
That will happen to all trumpers after a while ecstatic Aug 2021 #14
He may have actually been grifted. Ace Rothstein Aug 2021 #19
Was It His Money? ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #28
I thought I saw something about him dropping $5m of his own cash. Ace Rothstein Aug 2021 #29
Might Be True ProfessorGAC Aug 2021 #30
I'ts the TFG curse from hell ! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #20
Yes, like insane with a pathological inability to admit error Silent3 Aug 2021 #21
He's an idiot with money GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #22
This idiot is a former crackhead LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2021 #23
I think he's bipolar TexasBushwhacker Aug 2021 #26
Chump knows how to use people - especial rich ones FakeNoose Aug 2021 #31

No Vested Interest

(5,165 posts)
2. Likely his pillow business is losing money and he's flailing around,
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:03 PM
Aug 2021

making poor decisions. His ego won't accept that he could be wrong in his political assumptions.

That would drive one insane.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,449 posts)
8. Agreed....the man is not well.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:33 PM
Aug 2021

If anyone in the Republican Party agreed, they'd be taking him aside and tell him to stop the BS. Thing is, a growing majority of elected Republicans are using the Big Lie to suppress Democratic votes. I hope the reap what they sow.....at some point it will be Democrats vs. a shrinking collection of whackjobs.

sprinkleeninow

(20,235 posts)
11. If 'margarine' is wonderfully fine with people succumbing to this covid as she has so clearly
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 10:11 PM
Aug 2021
said out loud, why would any of her ilk want to intervene and help this batty guy?

I just cannot wrap my head around how sick it has all precipitated to.

ProfessorGAC

(64,993 posts)
27. It Is
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 07:47 PM
Aug 2021

By the numbers, public and semiprivate.
His revenues were $152 million in 2019. The operating margins were a bit under 23%, or around $34.5 million.
The SG&A, which by industry standard is 8% of revenues.
We're down to $22.5 million.
Now, we've got debt service based on around $125 million of loans. 4% interest is $5 million and the repayment cash, assuming 20 year depreciation time on equipment & buildings, & typical terms of 60% or 12 years, is another $10 million. There was only $5.5 million in profit, before taxes and reinvestment.
After losing Walmart, Target, BB&B, & others, revenues are down 30%. Even this brain damaged crack addict admitted that.
Expenses exceed revenue & with a D/E of over 4.8, new borrowing will be hard to come by.
He's in big financial trouble.
That's why I think somebody else is funding him. He's nowhere near as rich as he pretends to be.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
17. If he loses that law suit....
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 11:53 PM
Aug 2021

and is forced to pay a princely sum vfc in damages, oh yeah, he'll be back on the pipe for sure.

Couldn't happen to a more idiotic person (save one particular Orange fellow).

Irish_Dem

(46,905 posts)
6. It is way past time for his family to have an intervention with him.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:15 PM
Aug 2021

Maybe it is even time to go to court and ask for a psych eval to determine competency.
And try to save any assets that are left for his treatment and long term care.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
7. Yes imagine that. Britney Spears can't shake out her conservatorship
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 09:22 PM
Aug 2021

And meanwhile Lindell is allowed to melt away in public. it says a lot about the difference between how men and women are treated in this country when it comes to mental health.

Irish_Dem

(46,905 posts)
25. A white, male, Republican can get away with criminality or insanity.
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 07:21 AM
Aug 2021

Especially if you are a high level elected official, or have donated a lot of money to elected officials.

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
10. He could always turn his talents into evangelical preaching
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 10:09 PM
Aug 2021

He's got a big mouth and he can talk a whole lot if gibberish for hours. He just has to pepper his rants with a few scriptures here and there and he'd rake in the money from these rubes.

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
14. That will happen to all trumpers after a while
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 11:49 PM
Aug 2021

When you start with a false premise and keep rearranging reality to match your false premise, insanity is almost unavoidable.

Ace Rothstein

(3,160 posts)
19. He may have actually been grifted.
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 11:54 PM
Aug 2021

Which just makes him an idiot. Who was he throwing all his cash to over the last 9 months?

ProfessorGAC

(64,993 posts)
28. Was It His Money?
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 07:49 PM
Aug 2021

See my post, #27.
He doesn't have the cash to do this.
He's a crazy guy front for some dark money, I think.

ProfessorGAC

(64,993 posts)
30. Might Be True
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 08:38 PM
Aug 2021

He claims to be worth $300 million.
A couple months ago, I some digging.
That number is at least inflated by a factor of 12.
Also, some of the loans acquired after D/E hit 3, are probably, at least in part, personally backed.
If he spent $5 million of his own cash, the idiot lenders are going to take a beating.
But, a guy who lies about his net worth, inflating it by 1,100%, is also capable of lying about where that $5 million came from.

Silent3

(15,198 posts)
21. Yes, like insane with a pathological inability to admit error
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 12:07 AM
Aug 2021

Every time I've heard him talk, whether it was about the election or COVID snake oil, he's been like that.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,171 posts)
26. I think he's bipolar
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 07:31 PM
Aug 2021

My dad was bipolar. The only difference was that that my dad only drank. He didn't do hard drugs.

FakeNoose

(32,628 posts)
31. Chump knows how to use people - especial rich ones
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 08:50 PM
Aug 2021

This guy is a target, nothing more. Rich, stupid, willing to risk it all for Chump.
Hitler had a similar scam, it worked out great for him.

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