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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAli Velshi must've read the comments about Maddow
considering leaving MSNBC. He let her know how important she is,calling her the "north star" of her colleagues, and it made her cry.
That was really good of him
G_j
(40,366 posts)touched
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)back on the 2008 Race For the White House show. She didn't take his crap, he stormed off the set, and she magnanimously said maybe he was tired.
He's held a grudge ever since then. Every video of that on YouTube or any other site has been removed, because he threw a tantrum.
Unfortunately, he has inroads with NBC management. She may not realize how appreciated she really is.
As we've seen, having the highest-rated show is no guarantee of anything at that network.
Joinfortmill
(14,416 posts)SouthBayDem
(32,018 posts)"Joe didn't walk off. He chose not to participate in the final couple of minutes of the discussion because he felt the conversation didn't fit his role as a political analyst."
Previously:
Did Joe Scarborough walk out of David Gregory's show "Race to the White House" Thursday night on MSNBC? It seems that way by the video below. Joe was a panelist on the show along with Air America's Rachel Maddow, CNBC's John Harwood and former Tennessee Congressman Harold Ford, Jr.
The panel was discussing the effect of Sen. Obama's personal and professional relationships on his campaign when Rachel and Joe disagreed. Joe started to challenge Rachel's argument that relationships only become an issue when a political opponent makes them an issue, but she cut him off, "Let me make my point and then you can dismiss me." She then finished with an example of a McCain campaign co-chair in Florida's bathroom activities.
After a commercial break, Joe prefaced his rebuttal to Rachel's point by saying "I don't engage in Crossfire-type debates and certainly I don't want to talk about what people do in bathrooms." When he finished speaking, and after David Gregory had shut Joe vs. Rachel down, John Harrow came on camera. Then, viewers can hear Joe taking off his microphone (2:47 into the below video). When the panel picture came back, no Joe.
Treefrog
(4,170 posts)She is thousands above him in intelligence.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)dumbass. God he is a boor. I've tried but the inane drivel is just too much. Ari gets it. So does Chris Hayes, Ali Veshi, Nichole Wallace and Stepanie Ruhle (sp?)
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I wouldnt blame her. She is working so hard to educate people but people refuse to be educated.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)then she said "Bye" before she cried on TV.
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electric_blue68
(14,886 posts)I listen via Tune-in bc I need a new TV so I didn't see her...
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)It was posted here several times early today. I can understand, but I hope she stays.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)OK, I understand now.
elleng
(130,865 posts)FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)... but they're keeping it quiet for now.
I posted earlier that she should become the mod on Meet the Press because she'd be lightyears better than Chuck Todd. (He's in way over his head anyway.)
Rachel is worth whatever $$ they pay her, so it can't be about the salary. Maybe she needs to work fewer hours, but get a bigger audience on NBC the broadcast network, rather than on MSNBC the cable channel. She'd get a large, diverse audience as the moderator of Meet The Press, don't we all agree?
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)but Comcast and the NBC bigshots don't want MTP to become an actual informative show. As Darth Cheney said, it's where republicons go to begin catapulting the propaganda. That hasn't changed since the Russert era when he said that.
Maddow would not let republicons on to spew their garbage unchallenged. So that will never happen.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)and she said interviewing was not something she considered her self to be good at. I think she called it her weakest point. Now that was a few years ago, and maybe she thinks differently now, but back then she didn't like to do interviews.
Joinfortmill
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FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)I've been listening since her 1 hour Air America show.
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FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)Thom Hartmann and Mike Malloy's podcasts. Al Franken too, but he just does one a week.
There was some real talent in the original AA lineup.
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electric_blue68
(14,886 posts)even like 🤔...
probably some Choice March in DC. 👍
electric_blue68
(14,886 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)electric_blue68
(14,886 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)People want the truth, can't have that . . .
electric_blue68
(14,886 posts)electric_blue68
(14,886 posts)I loved Air America Radio 😔💖
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Joe scum insulted Rachel?
multigraincracker
(32,673 posts)are trusted news sources.
BComplex
(8,036 posts)and he's very clear about ramifications. He was born to be a journalist IMHO.
But Rachel is still #1. No matter how you look at it.
multigraincracker
(32,673 posts)When he first started he threw his hands all over when he spoke. He's got it down now.
BComplex
(8,036 posts)onetexan
(13,036 posts)luvallpeeps
(935 posts)Then she took 2 weeks off, I was so happy for her. Her show is my only must watch tv. When her partner got sick with covid, my gut told me she may have taken stock of her life the way one does after a scare like that. I wish her well in whatever she does, and wherever she lands. Trying to think positive, but when the North Star is out of sight ..🌟
electric_blue68
(14,886 posts)electric_blue68
(14,886 posts)really annoyed because I didn't have Cable,
let alone Cable+
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)which is pretty understandable. I definitely faced that when I was at the end of my military attorney career.
Sometimes I feel guilty about taking a couple of years off after retirement (retirement plus disability is pretty generous), but most of the time I just enjoy extended do nothing time and freedom. We don't lament on our deathbed not having put more hours in at the office.
Joinfortmill
(14,416 posts)Silent3
(15,204 posts)...that comment from Velshi probably would have flown right over my head, but I definitely felt like had to be related.
ShazzieB
(16,370 posts)And Velshi's comment did fly right over my head tonight! I wondered what brought that on, and now I know!
If Rachel steps down from her show, I will be bereft. I really want her to do what's best for her, even if it's that, but I will miss her SOOOOOOO much! I really want her to do what makes her happy, but it would be a very tough adjustment.
katmondoo
(6,454 posts)I am sad just thinking she may leave, so very sad.
malaise
(268,930 posts)halfulglas
(1,654 posts)She doesn't do he said, he said. Some people have said she can be tedious sometimes, but she does bring out a kernel of truth that turns out to be very important. Of course also my friend who is hard of hearing says she talks much too fast to fit in all those facts.
She doesn't do a lot of interviews because they often have nothing new to a story and just churn what's already been reported.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)and thought process that leads to the conclusion. A lot of people don't have the attention span to follow along.
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)I understand many require it, and I generally don't find it bothersome, but occasionally it can be a bit much.
halfulglas
(1,654 posts)The falsehoods that they're pushing are repeated over and over, in many different ways. It imprints on the mind. That's one of the reasons Fox started by offering their channel for free in many cable markets (and to certain demographics). It tells the mind it must be important, the same opinions, not really facts but presented as facts, all day. Now it's Trump is real winner, election corrupt, Democrats evil. Think of fundamental evangelists repeating over and over the same phrases. Even an agnostic driving home from a funeral finds themselves humming one of the songs and you think "where did that come from?"
I'm not implying Rachel is doing THAT, but she does know some facts have to be repeated for emphasis as a way of pointing out something important, especially in this media world of both-siderism.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Rachel Maddow is the best............I watch her every night. She and lawrence McDonald are my 2 go to newscasters. I really enjoy both of them and trust what they say. Please oh Please keep Miss Maddow.............she is so good!!! The people of the USA need someone with her skills that we trust right now. It helps all of us stay sane.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)and wish her and her family the best. She really is a national treasure. Few have her knowledge, articulation, journalistic integrity, flat-out honesty and heart. She does it for America, and it is her civil service gift. She has kept a portion of America informed during extremely dangerous and Orwellian times. I am grateful.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)She is a generational talent and we have been blessed she has shared her intellect with us. Whatever she chooses, I trust it will wind up terrific.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Rachael is very important to that network. She knows it, they know it, and her colleagues do as well. At the same time, I don't know that she'd fit anywhere else but MSNBC, so we'll see.