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MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 08:48 AM Aug 2021

As delta variant surges, vaccine-makers rethink their strategy

Source: https://www.salon.com/2021/08/12/vaccine-makers-future-strategy-delta/

"Boosters, or a new vaccine entirely? Here's what researchers and pharma are planning

When America shut down in March 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic, there was a pervading sense that the situation was probably — or hopefully — temporary. After all, efforts were already underway to develop a vaccine. It was just a matter of time until normalcy would return.

But 17 months later, a return to "normal" is nowhere in sight. Frightening new mutant strains like the delta variant and the lambda variant have emerged, more infectious and possibly more dangerous than their antecedents. Early evidence indicates that, while existing vaccines stop patients from getting severely ill if infected, they do not prevent the infected from transmitting the disease. At the very least, it is theoretically possible that mutant variants could create problems for people who want their inoculations to be effective.

In other words, the vaccines weren't enough. Humanity anxiously awaited development of the first COVID-19 vaccines throughout 2020; now that those vaccines aren't enough to permanently halt COVID-19, it would appear that vaccine manufacturers are pivoting their strategy.

But as to what they have planned, pharmaceutical companies aren't being entirely transparent — or perhaps they aren't sure."

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As delta variant surges, vaccine-makers rethink their strategy (Original Post) MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 OP
I also think Covid will be like the flu and we will need.. ananda Aug 2021 #1
Vaccines would have been enough if everyone who could be vaccinated were JohnSJ Aug 2021 #2
we need an actual treatment (prefer a cure) MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #3
Well.... Roland99 Aug 2021 #4
none of which is a cure MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #5
Give me a real world example of a "cure"? TomCADem Aug 2021 #7
Antibiotics are a cure for bacterial infections - MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #9
Umm, That Means You Have to First Get COVID... TomCADem Aug 2021 #10
I maintain a cure is needed MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #11
I had to take antibiotics recently... TomCADem Aug 2021 #12
I've taken antibiotics recently too and there was no diarrhea only the cure.... MisterNiceKitty Aug 2021 #13
Perhaps mainlining Lysol will do?! meow2u3 Aug 2021 #8
The vaccines are all highly effective. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2021 #6

JohnSJ

(92,176 posts)
2. Vaccines would have been enough if everyone who could be vaccinated were
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 09:06 AM
Aug 2021

The problem is it is a global issue, and enough vaccines need to be distributed to the world

add to that the Anton-vaxers, and that is the challenge

This isn’t the fault of pharma

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
4. Well....
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 11:37 AM
Aug 2021

1) hydrochloroquin. Oops. Wait. No.

2) drink bleach. Um. Nope. Didn’t work either.

3) horse de-wormer. Dang. That still didn’t work


What could I possibly have done to help myself avoid getting COVID?

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
7. Give me a real world example of a "cure"?
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 01:00 PM
Aug 2021

I think the way you are defining the term, there is no such thing for any transmissible diseases.

MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
9. Antibiotics are a cure for bacterial infections -
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 01:42 PM
Aug 2021

take the required dose and it's gone. This works wonders for communicable diseases (was this a serious question?)

Anyway, something like that for viruses; it's easier said than done, I know. But this is a good time to break the paradigm.

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
10. Umm, That Means You Have to First Get COVID...
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 01:48 PM
Aug 2021

…then be cured with antibiotics, which have some unpleasant side effects themselves like diarrhea.

Also, if you have been vaccinated, then you will probably get over COVID without the help of antibiotics.

Finally, I think they have been looking into such medicines (they administered some to Trump), but he still was pretty ill by the time they were administered.

MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
11. I maintain a cure is needed
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 01:53 PM
Aug 2021

There are vaccines against Hepatitis too and yet a cure was developed and is available (pegylated interferon-alpha).



TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
12. I had to take antibiotics recently...
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 02:03 PM
Aug 2021

…and since that is the paradigm mentioned, while they were a god send, the reason was to combat an infection and the diarrhea was not fun.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
8. Perhaps mainlining Lysol will do?!
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 01:11 PM
Aug 2021

TFG did suggest mainlining Lysol and shoving a UV flashlight up your ass would kill COVID.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
6. The vaccines are all highly effective.
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 12:18 PM
Aug 2021

The essential problem is that no where near enough people have gotten fully vaccinated.

Even 70% probably isn't enough to stop Covid.

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