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JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 05:11 PM Aug 2021

David Rothkopf: US policy in Afghanistan has been 20 yrs of bad decisions & bad execution


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US policy in Afghanistan has been 20 yrs of bad decisions & bad execution in the face of an insoluble challenge. Our local allies were very flawed, our enemy was resolute & the last 3 US presidents have wanted out & knew what's happening now would happen. But sure, it's on Biden.

The original sin and greatest blame goes to George W. Bush who got us involved in a protracted mission when the only right mission was to go in, get Al Qaeda & leave. That was compounded by the catastrophic decision to enter Iraq--an enormous distraction.

Obama and Trump compounded the problem by failing to find a way to exit. Why didn't they? Because their advisors knew that the center (the Afghan gov't and forces) couldn't hold and that ultimately collapse would follow the exit. Those advisors were right.

Those who recommended staying indefinitely did so in the full knowledge that 20 years of massive expense and effort could not produce a stable central government or a secure Afghanistan. There is zero evidence any outside force ever could do that. None ever has.

There are profound human rights issues--particularly women's rights issues--that should be of great concern and a priority for the international community. But the answer is not a costly U.S. & allied military Band-Aid.

The military is not the only tool in what Madeleine Albright would call our diplomatic toolbox. Moreover it is one that has proven wholly ineffective to produce lasting change in Afghanistan. We must shift to other tools--at the top of the list being multilateral diplomacy.

Bringing together all the major powers with a stake in Afghanistan and institutions to communicate to the effective leaders of the country that if they respect the rights of women they will benefit and if they do not they will be severely penalized.

Letting them know that they will be subject to military strikes if they harbor terrorists is also fair. The notion that the only path is continuing to do what hasn't worked to date is ridiculous. And the costs & pitfalls of alternative paths aren't worse than what hasn't worked.

Some suggest that Biden could have planned this better. First, Bush, Obama and Trump could have and should have planned and executed this better. Next, there is plenty to suggest that whenever the US decided to leave, what is happening would happen.

The Taliban want to embarrass us and claim victory. They have known all along they would not get much resistance in most of the country from the central government. This was so predictable everyone predicted it--and no one, no one offered a viable alternative solution.

Only one president has had the courage to do the right thing in Afghanistan. It is the same man who advised we do this in 2009 when he was Vice President. It takes courage because he knows that he will receive the critiques his opponents are heaping on him now

But doing the right thing even when it is likely to be politically controversial and even when it reveals uncomfortable realities is what strong leadership is about.

Biden & his team have already committed to using other means to advance US interests in Afghanistan-as we should have done long, long ago. It's fascinating that so many who opposed nation building, who do not believe the US should be the world's sheriff are now criticizing Biden.

America's war in Afghanistan will rank alongside Vietnam as one of our great modern failures of strategy and execution. Many are to blame for that. Whatever arguments might be made that the US departure could have been better executed, one thing is absolutely clear.

The bulk of the responsibility for that failure lies with past administrations and with the leadership in Kabul (and to some extent with Taliban enablers beyond the country's borders). Biden is doing what is right and what must be done. It is time to turn the page.
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David Rothkopf: US policy in Afghanistan has been 20 yrs of bad decisions & bad execution (Original Post) JoanofArgh Aug 2021 OP
Agree!! onetexan Aug 2021 #1
Way longer than that n/t malaise Aug 2021 #2
Same with Iraq. Same with Vietnam. Korea was/is a stalemate that should've been a warning... brush Aug 2021 #3
only reason to go into Afghanistan qazplm135 Aug 2021 #4
Safe pathways of exodus for friendlies wwprogressive Aug 2021 #5

brush

(53,763 posts)
3. Same with Iraq. Same with Vietnam. Korea was/is a stalemate that should've been a warning...
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 05:25 PM
Aug 2021

as to what was to come, but after all of our meddling and exploiting western hemisphere nation's resources for much of the 20th century, and after winning WWll (although not by ourselves), we keep overestimating our ability to impose our will internationally in distant lands.

Realpolitiks requires real experience, reliable and accurate intelligence and wisdom in world affairs. We've had W Bush/ Rumsfeld and trump/Pompeo lately.

Not good.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
4. only reason to go into Afghanistan
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 05:38 PM
Aug 2021

was to get AQ and Bin Laden.

We screwed around with nation building for about a decade before Obama accomplished that, should have been done in a year or two max.

wwprogressive

(12 posts)
5. Safe pathways of exodus for friendlies
Fri Aug 13, 2021, 05:43 PM
Aug 2021

A right on assessment. Thanks! Importantly, we need to establish safe pathways of exodus from the country for Afghan friendlies who are at risk and need to flee. I believe we need to facilitate UN troops to move in there.

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