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Jilly_in_VA

(9,965 posts)
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 06:52 PM Aug 2021

What it's like when hospitals say they've run out of ICU beds


Michael Kagan, a professor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, says the cancerous lymph nodes in his neck are like a “ticking time bomb.” But there’s little he can do.

MountainView Hospital, where he was scheduled to have his procedure last week, has put all surgeries requiring an overnight stay on hold as Covid-19 case counts and hospitalizations climb, according to a statement from spokesperson Jennifer McDonnell.

“I’m not getting any treatment so on any given day it could spread to another part of my body or it can grow and cause a much bigger problem,” Kagan told CNN’s Brianna Keilar on Tuesday. “I’m just living with a time bomb and I’m just letting it tick down, basically.”

With Covid-19 case numbers surging across the United States and many unvaccinated Americans falling ill, the number of available hospital beds has been dwindling in parts of the country. Some hospitals now report their intensive care units, which are usually reserved for the most critically ill patients, are full – a grim reality that’s forcing health care leaders to make tough decisions, whether that be redirecting new patients to other facilities, canceling surgeries or creating makeshift ICU beds in the middle of emergency rooms.

“It’s a nightmare,” said Dr. Teri Dyess, director of hospital medicine at St. Dominic Hospital in Jackson, Mississippi. “We’ve had people drive here (from) three hours away for their planned surgery and we have no beds to put them in after they operate.”

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/14/us/full-icus-summer-covid-surge/index.html
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And people still don't want to wear masks or get vaccinated because FREEDUMB!
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What it's like when hospitals say they've run out of ICU beds (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Aug 2021 OP
This is nothing like cancerous lymph nodes leftieNanner Aug 2021 #1
You must be from sillywabbit Aug 2021 #3
You are correct! leftieNanner Aug 2021 #9
Heat/Smoke/Covid sillywabbit Aug 2021 #27
My mother recently got diagnosed with a cyst on her spine. Mariana Aug 2021 #6
That's awful leftieNanner Aug 2021 #10
The anti-vaxxers don't think they're hurting anyone else. Mariana Aug 2021 #12
I think Laurelin Aug 2021 #21
People who have been vaccinated are testing positive Warpy Aug 2021 #17
Yes, how can any health care facility allow unvaccinated workers. CA gov Newsome mandated ShazamIam Aug 2021 #18
Kick dalton99a Aug 2021 #2
Drive extra carefully, everyone bucolic_frolic Aug 2021 #4
It's funny. I live in rural NE Nevada and often in the past people in my area got flown totodeinhere Aug 2021 #5
This will all be over by summer IronLionZion Aug 2021 #7
Car accidents. KentuckyWoman Aug 2021 #8
My offspring canceled their trip Lars39 Aug 2021 #11
Time to triage their sorry asses right the hell Phoenix61 Aug 2021 #13
It's past time for: "Not vaccinated? No admission." Grins Aug 2021 #14
Works for me. Although I would be willing to Phoenix61 Aug 2021 #15
The professor needs to get his doctor to call marybourg Aug 2021 #16
I don't know about the insurance aspect of it but Disaffected Aug 2021 #19
Maybe. But he can't just sit home and do nothing. marybourg Aug 2021 #20
On further reflection, Disaffected Aug 2021 #23
He doesn't have insurance in Canada. LisaL Aug 2021 #24
Of course not. Disaffected Aug 2021 #26
I presume the money/insurance aspect of it make it difficult. LisaL Aug 2021 #25
The willfully unvaccinated are terrorists and murderers. Crunchy Frog Aug 2021 #22

leftieNanner

(15,081 posts)
1. This is nothing like cancerous lymph nodes
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 07:24 PM
Aug 2021

But I had an important procedure that has been percolating for 3 years cancelled ten days ago and my husband needs a hip replacement soon. He can hardly walk. But our hospitals are absolutely slammed with Covid. Our county is only 46% vaccinated. We have right wingers here as well as new-age natural health kinds of folks. Bad combination when you're trying to fight a pandemic.

One of the local hospitals had 61 EMPLOYEES test positive! How can any health care facility allow employees to opt out of the vaccine?

This is beyond nuts.

sillywabbit

(24 posts)
3. You must be from
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 07:32 PM
Aug 2021

Jackson County, Oregon. Our friend broke his femur right at the place where it attached to his hip replacement, and he had to be taken by ambulance to Portland for surgery because there was no room here. Thankfully, he wasn't at Asante when they announced all of those positive tests.

leftieNanner

(15,081 posts)
9. You are correct!
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 08:33 PM
Aug 2021

Between the rise in Covid cases and the heat/smoke, we were going crazy. Drove up to Seattle for a few days. We might have to move up here!

sillywabbit

(24 posts)
27. Heat/Smoke/Covid
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 06:02 PM
Aug 2021

That sounds like a good plan! We are considering buying a place on the coast. I grew up in Gold Beach, so it would be at the top of my list.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
6. My mother recently got diagnosed with a cyst on her spine.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 08:02 PM
Aug 2021

It's pressing on a nerve, causing her severe and debilitating pain. Simple and quick outpatient procedure to remove it and resolve the issue. But no, she can't get it done because it's not life threatening. This is in Florida.

Warpy

(111,243 posts)
17. People who have been vaccinated are testing positive
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 09:54 PM
Aug 2021

because this is a much more aggressively contagious form of the virus that takes hold quickly. There is no indication those 61 people were unvaccinated or if they'd been vaccinated with mild or no symptoms, or where they worked in the hospital, like medical records or transcription or IT or any other area with no contact with patients.

Given the USSC's ruling about a vaccine mandate in Indiana last week, I think you'll see not only hospitals, but everything from factories to burger joints mandating the shot.

ShazamIam

(2,570 posts)
18. Yes, how can any health care facility allow unvaccinated workers. CA gov Newsome mandated
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:03 PM
Aug 2021

health care facility workers to be vaccinated and now there is a push to mandate home health care workers to be vaccinated since those being cared for at home are as vulnerable as those in care and medical facilities.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
5. It's funny. I live in rural NE Nevada and often in the past people in my area got flown
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 07:53 PM
Aug 2021

to a hospital in Utah for medical treatment. But lately it's been the other way around. The hospitals in Utah are so full that they have been flying people here to our rural hospital because it still has some beds available.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
8. Car accidents.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 08:25 PM
Aug 2021

The grandchild of an acquaintance was very seriously injured in a car accident in Florida a few days ago. I don't know all the logistics but they managed to slow bleeding at a local hospital and then put the child on a chopper to Atlanta. It is the closest place they could get a trauma unit.

I was told the child's mother was driving and died. My acquaintance is of the opinion her daughter in law would have survived if Florida was not so bogged down with Covid.

These won't be counted among Covid's victims.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
11. My offspring canceled their trip
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 08:39 PM
Aug 2021

from near Chicago to middle TN because it was just too risky with hospitals here full.
I hadn’t seen them since before the pandemic.

Phoenix61

(17,000 posts)
13. Time to triage their sorry asses right the hell
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 08:58 PM
Aug 2021

out of there. Send them home and let their fellow anti-vaxers care for them.

Grins

(7,211 posts)
14. It's past time for: "Not vaccinated? No admission."
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 09:29 PM
Aug 2021

The wanted a choice, here’s one back for them.

Phoenix61

(17,000 posts)
15. Works for me. Although I would be willing to
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 09:32 PM
Aug 2021

set aside a certain number of beds for covidiots. However, when they fill up, that’s it. Those empty beds are for heart attacks, strokes, assorted accidents…

marybourg

(12,618 posts)
16. The professor needs to get his doctor to call
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 09:35 PM
Aug 2021

some hospitals outside of the red zone. He could even call Memorial Sloan Kettering in NYC himself to get an appointment to be seen there. It NOT true that “ there’s little he could do”.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
19. I don't know about the insurance aspect of it but
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 10:28 PM
Aug 2021

Canada is now allowing vaccinated Americans to enter for "non-essential purposes". Our hospital situation here is a bit worrisome but not nearly as bad as many areas of the US. Maybe he could come here?? Vancouver or Calgary would be the major centres closest to Nevada.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
23. On further reflection,
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 11:16 AM
Aug 2021

such a move seems like a long shot as there is a considerable operating room backlog here now due mainly to delays from Covid that have happened previously and built up over the past year or so. Bummer all round....

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
26. Of course not.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 12:34 PM
Aug 2021

However, he will find that the cost of uninsured medical care in Canada is often (always?) far less than what is typically charged in the US for the same service. IIRC, 1/4 to 1/3 the cost at least in some instances.

Having cancerous lymph nodes removed in a (possibly) more timely manner may be well worth it.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
25. I presume the money/insurance aspect of it make it difficult.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 11:22 AM
Aug 2021

But I agree-start a gofundme if necessary.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
22. The willfully unvaccinated are terrorists and murderers.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:38 AM
Aug 2021

Where necessary, they should be thrown out to make room for people who are legitimately sick.

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