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Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:13 PM Aug 2021

Hoo boy, just got 8 California ballots in the mail. Not great.

Two of them are legitimately ours.

Two are right house number, wrong street.

Two are right street, wrong house number.

Two are people who don't (no longer?) live here.

The four in my neighborhood I'll be walking over in the morning. Our two will get mailed when I do that.

Still. Eesh, USPS. Good thing it doesn't matter, eh?

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Hoo boy, just got 8 California ballots in the mail. Not great. (Original Post) Sympthsical Aug 2021 OP
One manifestation, one vote? marble falls Aug 2021 #1
Thank deJoy. Overworked, understaffed, badly equipped, badly managed. He & his ilk are... Hekate Aug 2021 #2
Believe me, it was the first name that entered my mind n/t Sympthsical Aug 2021 #6
I hate him with a passion. BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #23
All roads except toll roads are designed for USPS ... aggiesal Aug 2021 #26
Cool trivia-- but also tells us how important the POs are! Hekate Aug 2021 #31
It's basically the only Federal building ... aggiesal Aug 2021 #42
It won't be any more if deJoy and the people who put him in charge have their way. nt Hekate Aug 2021 #45
As long as you vote to keep Newsom in office blogslug Aug 2021 #3
Yep Sympthsical Aug 2021 #7
Why give someone else a vote to get Newsom out? Best to vote for Newsom by... brush Aug 2021 #13
I believe in having contingencies Sympthsical Aug 2021 #14
Not making a choice if the recall moonscape Aug 2021 #32
Cal Dems recommend leaving question 2 blank.... IcyPeas Aug 2021 #22
I don't understand the reasoning behind this at all. moonscape Aug 2021 #33
Here's the names of the other Dems on the ballot... IcyPeas Aug 2021 #37
What I don't get though is that it's moonscape Aug 2021 #38
It doesn't sound like there is any 'reasoning' behind this. Captain Stern Aug 2021 #39
Exactly. Further "you Republicans just pick moonscape Aug 2021 #43
It's a, it's a, it's a. . . TheBlackAdder Aug 2021 #4
Oooh, is this all the Democratic fraud I keep hearing about? Sympthsical Aug 2021 #10
At 11 at night on a Saturday? ornotna Aug 2021 #5
It's 8pm in California Sympthsical Aug 2021 #8
Doh! ornotna Aug 2021 #12
We all live in the human time zone Sympthsical Aug 2021 #15
Be sure you file a complaint to the Post Office. Maybe it'll spur them to get off their... brush Aug 2021 #9
I wouldn't want to get my carrier in trouble Sympthsical Aug 2021 #11
That's quite a number of mistakes. She may not be doing the greatest job. brush Aug 2021 #16
You have a fair point Sympthsical Aug 2021 #18
Maybe over worked Deuxcents Aug 2021 #19
Sorry, but it's their job to get it right. This is too important. IcyPeas Aug 2021 #24
When mail for someone on our street is misdelivered to us, hubby takes it to the right house... Hekate Aug 2021 #29
Ballots Are Bulky Mail- Sad That The Postal Worker Wouldn't Notice Leaving 8 Ballots at 1 House n/t Indykatie Aug 2021 #17
Not that unusual for us Sympthsical Aug 2021 #20
DeJoy's announced policy is to slow delivery of first class mail. link below. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #21
I got in the mail today... BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #25
That sort of aberrant result makes one wonder about your local USPS people... RockRaven Aug 2021 #27
All we got was the voter's handbook? NullTuples Aug 2021 #28
They're official ballots Sympthsical Aug 2021 #40
Fascinating - it looks like some counties jumped the gun & othe are keeping it simple & on schedule. NullTuples Aug 2021 #44
Solano County in North Bay Sympthsical Aug 2021 #47
Just over a few hills. NullTuples Aug 2021 #48
2020 Presidential election I got FIVE ballots all with my name on them and Raine Aug 2021 #30
Hoo boy, just got 8 California ballots in the mail. Not great. LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #34
F*cking DeJoy. He has destroyed USPS. CousinIT Aug 2021 #35
Apparently he is there until December. secondwind Aug 2021 #36
They aren't just misdelivering in California. GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #41
Isn't this one of the main reasons give for no mail from in ballots? forthemiddle Aug 2021 #46

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
2. Thank deJoy. Overworked, understaffed, badly equipped, badly managed. He & his ilk are...
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:19 PM
Aug 2021

… deliberately trying to destroy this venerable American institution, one so important it was founded by Ben Franklin and mentioned in the Constitution. It is not designed to turn a profit — it is designed to render a vital service.

before I really start to rant

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
26. All roads except toll roads are designed for USPS ...
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:29 AM
Aug 2021

When we used to use maps (way before GPS), the matrix that showed distances between cities, was determined by distances between the main post offices at each city.
That's a bit of trivia.

brush

(53,745 posts)
13. Why give someone else a vote to get Newsom out? Best to vote for Newsom by...
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:27 PM
Aug 2021

just checking item number 1, which means "No" on the recall of the governor.

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
14. I believe in having contingencies
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:29 PM
Aug 2021

If Newsom wins - and I've already filled in NO on the recall, then what I do on question two doesn't matter. But if he loses, and Republicans coalesce enough around Elder, hard pass.

I think it's irresponsible for me to leave it blank.

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
22. Cal Dems recommend leaving question 2 blank....
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:17 AM
Aug 2021

Rusty Hicks is the Chair of the California Democratic Party.


?s=19

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
37. Here's the names of the other Dems on the ballot...
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 03:11 AM
Aug 2021
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_California_gubernatorial_recall_election

None of them are even recognizable names and would stand zero chance. I'm going to follow their guidance and put all NY money in one pot.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
38. What I don't get though is that it's
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 05:18 AM
Aug 2021

all the money in one pot on question #1. Then, they roll out another pot. Not trying to belabor this, and will dig in tomorrow, but I guess at least there are no marginally palatable dems if the recall succeeds so not to tempt disaffected dems from voting yes.

I still don’t think I can leave it blank. I’ll write in Obama!

Captain Stern

(2,199 posts)
39. It doesn't sound like there is any 'reasoning' behind this.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 05:56 AM
Aug 2021

By answering 'no' to question 1, and leaving question two blank, one is essentially saying:

"I don't want Newsom removed, but if he is, I don't care whether his replacement is a Democrat or not."

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
10. Oooh, is this all the Democratic fraud I keep hearing about?
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:25 PM
Aug 2021

My god, the fraud was coming from inside the house!

At least they came to a place where we'll get them to the right people. I imagine an apathetic type tossing them. Or worse.

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
8. It's 8pm in California
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:24 PM
Aug 2021

And I'm lazy and didn't go out to get the mail until a bit ago. Our mail usually hits around 4pm-ish.

brush

(53,745 posts)
9. Be sure you file a complaint to the Post Office. Maybe it'll spur them to get off their...
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:24 PM
Aug 2021

ass and get DeJoy out of there so the PO can get back to efficient, speedy deliveries.

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
11. I wouldn't want to get my carrier in trouble
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:26 PM
Aug 2021

I genuinely like her. She's probably got a truck full of the things and they got shuffled around. Like I said, they were close! Two are a few houses down, and two are just another street over.

brush

(53,745 posts)
16. That's quite a number of mistakes. She may not be doing the greatest job.
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:31 PM
Aug 2021

Alerting the PO may spur her to do better. What if the mistake was made on a check for you, or some of the other peoples' mail you got?

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
18. You have a fair point
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:32 PM
Aug 2021

If everyone's getting ballots today, they're probably having a complete day of it. I feel for them. They're already getting hosed by DeJoy, and now they have this completely nonsensical ass ache courtesy of Republican shit heels.

Deuxcents

(16,095 posts)
19. Maybe over worked
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:40 PM
Aug 2021

Under appreciated and under paid. Please don’t report for this.. imo..Dejoy wants the p o privatized. A big union and its benefits...hmmm.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
29. When mail for someone on our street is misdelivered to us, hubby takes it to the right house...
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:05 AM
Aug 2021

I have to say he gets to know a lot more people than I do!

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
20. Not that unusual for us
Sat Aug 14, 2021, 11:57 PM
Aug 2021

We're kind of a mini post office ourselves. Since we both largely work from home, friends and family who don't will often have Amazon or anything important sent to us to avoid porch pirates in their neighborhood. It feels like there are always boxes in our foyer waiting to be picked up.

I'd be surprised if the carrier didn't think eight billion people lived here.

BigmanPigman

(51,571 posts)
25. I got in the mail today...
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:20 AM
Aug 2021

I literally kissed it. GOTV is on my mask and when I wore it to my supermarkets today I got a lot of "thumbs up"s.

RockRaven

(14,916 posts)
27. That sort of aberrant result makes one wonder about your local USPS people...
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 01:44 AM
Aug 2021

Or at minimum their working conditions.

Thankfully my household got a ballot for each voter living here, no more, and no less.

Thank you for fixing what you can fix. It matters. A hell of a lot.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
28. All we got was the voter's handbook?
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:00 AM
Aug 2021

"Voter Information Guide and Sample Ballot" it says on the front.

Below that,

"All active registered voters will get a ballot in the mail."

"Ballots will be mailed starting August 16; allow 5-7 days for delivery.

Perhaps it would be good if the OP checks the cover of whatever they received?

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
40. They're official ballots
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:08 AM
Aug 2021

They say "Official Mail-In Ballot" on the envelope. Inside is a sample ballot, an official ballot, a voter's information guide, a ballot stub with an I Voted sticker, and the yellow return envelope.

Why they put the sample ballot with the official ballot is beyond me. They look identical except for "sample ballot" written vertically in the margins.

Kind of seems like an accident waiting to happen there for people not paying attention.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
44. Fascinating - it looks like some counties jumped the gun & othe are keeping it simple & on schedule.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:04 PM
Aug 2021

Weird thing is, in the still anecdotal, non-statistically significant sampling I've found so far (ie, 3; two in SoCal & 1 in the Sierras) it appears to be red counties that sent them out early?

Also, thanks for all the info. This is indeed weird.

Sympthsical

(9,041 posts)
47. Solano County in North Bay
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:47 PM
Aug 2021

We're fairly solidly Democratic. 45/21/28 D/R/I. The (D) House representative typically gets ~55%.

But outside of the main three cities, it's pretty rural (I have a vineyard literally 100 ft. from my house). Not a ton of people. So maybe they just processed everything more quickly? Only 240k registered voters here compared to the million each in Contra Costa and Alameda.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
48. Just over a few hills.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 03:43 PM
Aug 2021

And I'd say Solano is solidly Dem indeed.
Registered Voters as of 08/09/2021 Democrat: 128,483 Republican: 58,451
https://www.solanocounty.com/depts/rov/






Raine

(30,540 posts)
30. 2020 Presidential election I got FIVE ballots all with my name on them and
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:06 AM
Aug 2021

my brother got ZERO ballots, looks like nothing has improved.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
34. Hoo boy, just got 8 California ballots in the mail. Not great.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:43 AM
Aug 2021
OMG, a friend in Northern California got 4 ballots, and 2 were for her husband just last week 😳

She's been a widow for over 5 years!!

Only ONE ballot was proper, which was for her. But her husband's name showed up on two of the other ballots and the final ballot had a wrong address on it and her name. It scared her to death, so she called her voter registrar's office, and the woman told her to destroy the 3 unnecessary ballots, throw them away but keep the one for her which was correct, and fill it out and mail as normal. She asked the woman how this happened, and the woman told her that sometimes it happens due to human error, also that more ballots are being mailed out than normal, so that more people can vote from home due to the pandemic. After she talked with the woman, she said she felt better.

Her ballot has been mailed in, AND of course she voted NO on the BOGUS GQP Gavin Newsom recall of course

CousinIT

(9,226 posts)
35. F*cking DeJoy. He has destroyed USPS.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:47 AM
Aug 2021

And he was installed to do JUST THAT. Vote by mail USED TO BE very reliable. DeJoy was installed to ensure that is no longer true. Speaking of which - WHY IS THAT SONOFABITCH STILL THERE?

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
41. They aren't just misdelivering in California.
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 08:22 AM
Aug 2021

I got three pieces of mail yesterday (SC). Two belonged to a house around the corner. Same number, wrong street. Biden really needs to replace the head of the USPS board with someone who get rid of DeJoy. What's really disgusting is that the current guy is A DEMOCRAT! But, he just loves him some Louis DeJoy--even with DeJoy's self-dealing. Sickening.

forthemiddle

(1,375 posts)
46. Isn't this one of the main reasons give for no mail from in ballots?
Sun Aug 15, 2021, 02:35 PM
Aug 2021

How long before your post becomes a meme on reasons to disqualify your vote? Or mail in voting?
Couldn’t you theoretically mail them all back with “No” to the recall?
It would then be up to the legitimate voters to prove they hadn’t already voted.

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