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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJosh Marshall on Kabul's fall "Vindication and the Fall of Kabul"
I tried to include four pertinent parts - it is worth reading it all. Marshall gets it.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/vindication-and-the-fall-of-kabul
"Yesterday I wrote this: In the coming days or weeks were likely to see a situation in which the government only controls Kabul. If youre in the Afghan army how hard are you going to fight in that final battle? Why fight? The question answers itself.
As we can see this morning, not days or weeks but hours. Overnight in the United States the army and government of Afghanistan melted away and remaining authorities are in the process of turning over power to a transitional Taliban government. Its over.
People are lining up to say that this is all on Joe Biden, that he lost Afghanistan, that he mismanaged or failed to manage the US withdrawal, that this is on him. In the calculus of US military-political culture thats likely right. But I see it quite differently. This seems to me like the ultimate vindication of his decision.
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What we have seen over the last couple weeks shows decisively and irrefutably that the entire politico-military project in Afghanistan was an illusion. Lots of criticism from this or that person, look at whats happened to everything we built, look whats been squandered. But what you built was the Afghan state and the military. What were seeing here shows you built nothing. We built nothing. The Taliban havent so much conquered the post-2002 Afghan state as nudged it over. Asked it to step aside and it complied. There was simply nothing there.
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After Bidens inauguration, Pentagon leaders reportedly told the new President that despite his desire to withdraw, it wasnt the right time. The Taliban had been strengthened under Trumps feckless management of US national security policy and effort to negotiate what amounted to a handover of the country to the Taliban. Maybe. But I doubt it. Trumps foreign policy to the extent one can call it that was catastrophic. But I dont buy efforts to put this on him. Like I said, theres plenty of blame to go around. And those most to blame are, I think, more guilty of self-delusion than deceit.
big snip - last para
This is right. However ugly the denouement, Biden understood the reality of the situation better than his military advisors. He was and is more in line with US popular opinion which long ago soured on our perpetual occupation of Afghanistan. Whether they will reward him or punish him for following through on that judgment I cant say. But the best way to ensure the former outcome is to be clear, direct: After 20 years it was up to the Afghans to decide their own future. This is a fight for Afghans not another generation of American boys. A perpetual deployment was not in the security interests of the United States.
at140
(6,110 posts)time to call it quits.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Pakistan is now fully indebted to China and Iran is cozying up to them as well.