An Afghan woman in Kabul: 'Now I have to burn everything I achieved'

Although there are some here that would deny it to their dying day and pointing out this fact is quite un PC...it's Islamic culture.

Radical Islamic culture.

Then again, the same can be said of many other Religions. Male led, with a dogma that pushes the ideal that men are inherently superior to women.

But some take it to a whole other dimension

I am jewish. Israel is having a real problem with their "fundamentalist' Orthodoxy. Don't any of you remember how some of the major newspapers in Israel Photoshopped Hillary Clinton out of the "War Room" pic when the Seals killed Bin Laden? There are also extreme Orthodox sects in NY that treat the women in their sects horribly by our standards.

When I was a young man I knew this convert from the States who on a visit to Israel lectured an Orthodox rabbi on the role of women.

look at the " good Christians" here in the US

even the most patriarchal, are comparable to the Taliban.

Iran despises the Taliban for their treatment of women which they feel makes a mockery of Islam.

But, we are still NOT treated equally to men in our overall culture. Women could not get loans or their own credit card without a cosigner until the 1970's. How many women lead big (and small) companies? How many women are Senators and Congress people? What is the percentage of women partners in Law Firms and Accounting Firms? What about all of the laws governing women's bodies? How safe do women feel going out at night by yourself? I could go on...

we should have trained the women.

but our country is run by a bunch of macho twits, too.

Their women are amazing fighters.

They're the ones with everything to gain and everything to lose.

Was that the men were happy to go back to taliban rule….the same men who were probably in the Afghan military…know wonder they gave up so easily

Why did they give up so easy?

Authoreligion.

I mean.. that was 20 years ago. Most armies are young men.. Id assume that most of the afghan army that just folded was either children or not yet born when we took over the nation.

the leadership, though, certainly.

since i always hear how fast things are changing

They will suffer under a vile system and we don’t have to worry about them.

Out of sight and out of mind.

And we did NOTHING but turn their lives into tragedy.

We really should ashamed.

Please don’t respond to this.

Those poor terrified women.

I am hurting tonight, and I just feel a heavy oppression.

It’s really heartbreaking.

I wish I knew what I could do to help in some small way.

I was feeling the same earlier this evening, when the news was coming in from every direction. Terrible, just terrible, is how I felt in thinking about their dashed hopes and dreams.

I had many Iraqi women in my classes, and there may have been some women from Afghanistan, too, although I do not recall that nationality specifically. They were such intelligent, persistant women who were very dedicated to their scholarly work. It touched me as a teacher--to know that these women might not necessarily be given this chance in their home country. They were so eager and serious about their studies.

I would often have males from the same country in the class, too, and I recall thinking that if they just once crossed that line that indicated they thought they were superior to women that I would let them know about it. But interestingly enough, they never did. In fact I was quite amazed that they treated their fellow female students and me with a good deal of respect.

It kind of makes one wonder about the effect the overall culture has on one's behavior in regard to gender.

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on another note: I loved the comment upthread about who we should have trained.

Afgan got to damn complacent with the U.S. protecting them & business as usual until we decided to get the hell out .just like V.N. . the policy of the U.S. is we'll stick our nose in somebody else's business because it's right & us congress critter's need to make some money. been that way since late 1700's & not going to change that fact ! just like this damn pandemic & freedom right's crap . hiv going on & said this in another article. had hiv & knowing spread it , your ass when to a special prison cell ! what the fuck is the difference ?

Let the Taliban have their miserable sausage fest where they can't hurt oppress anyone but themselves.

What makes you think they would do that for Afghani women?