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garybeck

(9,939 posts)
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:10 AM Aug 2021

RFK Jr used to be a hero of mine....

A decade ago RFK Jr was a hero of mine. He was one of the few people speaking up about the electronic voting machines, Diebold, etc. He's done some respectable work for the environment. I went to see him speak when he came to my town.

I knew at the time that he was "anti-vax" but this was long before COVID and I didn't really know that much about it. And it didn't seem to his big issue at the time.

I haven't heard his name come up much lately, and was wondering what his stand is now on vaccines, considering COVID. So I poked around a bit.

What a disappointment. Evidently, even in light of a pandemic that has killed hundreds of thousands of americans, he has become a spokesperson for anti-vax disinformation and he even put out a video discouraging people from getting vaccinated.

This article on FactCheck.org describes his video and tears it to pieces.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/scicheck-rfk-jr-video-pushes-known-vaccine-misrepresentations/

Several vaccine falsehoods and misrepresentations have been strung together in a video aimed at discouraging Black people from getting vaccinated against COVID-19.

The hourlong video, called “Medical Racism: The New Apartheid,” is hosted by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s anti-vaccination organization, Children’s Health Defense. It includes mostly rehashed claims about vaccine safety framed to exploit distrust of the medical establishment in Black communities.

The video, which was made available on March 11, doesn’t offer any evidence that COVID-19 vaccines are harmful. Instead, it relies on innuendo — citing historical examples of ethical failures in medicine, misrepresenting various scientific studies, and suggesting that the medical establishment can’t be trusted.

For example, Kennedy — who is a lawyer, not a doctor — ends the video by discouraging viewers from following the advice of public health officials, like Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “Don’t listen to me, don’t listen to Tony Fauci, and don’t listen to your doctor,” Kennedy says before advising viewers to review the package inserts for vaccines and question whether the ingredients are safe.


This is BS and I have lost my respect for Mr. Kennedy. Vaccination disinformation kills people.

It is sad, or even shocking, when a hero disappoints.
But what can I say, when I was a kid my favorite football player was OJ Simpson.
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AZ8theist

(5,417 posts)
1. He was NEVER a hero of mine. More like despised...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:35 AM
Aug 2021

...along the lines of the anti-vax imbecile Jenny McCarthy and their fraud hero, Andrew Wakefield.

The guy was an anti-vaxxer as long as I knew about him. He can go fuck himself. What a disgrace to the family name.

RockRaven

(14,907 posts)
2. He's been killing people with misinformation for decades...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:50 AM
Aug 2021

Anti-vax bullshit has been on my radar from the time Wakefield published his fraudulent "study" and the first time I ever noticed RFK Jr as a public figure was as an antivax shithead around the same time (late 90s).

But you have my sympathy for becoming disillusioned with someone you previously admired/liked. That's happened to just about all of us, I'm sure. Certainly has happened to me.

orleans

(34,042 posts)
3. wow-- this made me wonder about his twitter crap
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:26 AM
Aug 2021

so i went on his twitter feed and OMFG! the absolute shit the people who love him are posting

it's rather ,,, infuriating

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
5. He's been an Anti-vaxxer for decades. He said when
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 03:44 AM
Aug 2021

he was first approached by someone in the anti- vax movement he thought it was bullshit . He wasn’t always anti- vax. The anti- vax movement has a lot of money attached to it and I’ve often wondered if he simply sold out for a bigger paycheck because initially THEY went after him and basically recruited him.

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
8. I don't know how Mike Papantonio (lawyer and college friend) nor Sam Seder can work with him
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:32 AM
Aug 2021

AFAIK, neither buys into this BS. But, though I haven't listened to ROF since its old AAR days, my understanding is they are all still involved. It is sad. RFK JR has all but been disowned by his family over this--they've repeated written and spoken out against his views and him personally for doing this.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,496 posts)
14. My understanding is that he left ROF a while back. But not finding the
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:02 PM
Aug 2021

article. I believe it was due to his quackery.

Ms. Toad

(33,999 posts)
15. The Mike Lindell playbook for his election fraud lies is taken directly from RFK Jr
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:09 PM
Aug 2021

Perhaps it was only confirmation bias that made you believe RFK Jr. was anything other than the huckster he has always been.

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
16. He came to my town to speak a number of years ago. I eagerly bought tickets to hear him speak.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:19 PM
Aug 2021

I was expecting an invigorating motivational speech about the importance of environmental protection.

What we got was a nearly incomprehensible screed against vaccinations, and how they give you autism. (BTW, )

He went on and on about how China never had autism until they started mandatory vaccination. Then, he declared with the surety of a hellfire-and-brimstone preacher, cases of autism in China skyrocketed! *GASP!*

I lost any respect for him...

He's a whack-job...

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