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malaise

(268,885 posts)
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:47 PM Aug 2021

"If I did anything, it was to prepare our forces for this situation," Afghanistan's ex-president sai

https://www.businessinsider.com/afghanistan-ashraf-ghani-confidence-taliban-resistance-us-troop-withdrawal-2021-8

Ashraf Ghani in a May interview was confident that the government could fend off the Taliban.
In April, President Joe Biden announced that US troops would withdraw from Afghanistan by September.
"If I did anything, it was to prepare our forces for this situation," Afghanistan's ex-president said at the time.

Ashraf Ghani, the former president of Afghanistan who fled the country on Sunday as the Taliban captured all the provincial capitals and advanced into the capital city of Kabul, said only months ago that the government could withstand attacks from insurgents "forever" without the US assistance.

President Joe Biden in April announced that he would pull all US troops out of Afghanistan by September.

During a May interview in Der Spiegel, a German news magazine, Ghani was optimistic that the country could stand on its own when the US would eventually retreat from having a substantial presence in the region.


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Reports suggest that he fled the country with loads of money, several cars and a helicopter

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"If I did anything, it was to prepare our forces for this situation," Afghanistan's ex-president sai (Original Post) malaise Aug 2021 OP
I don't see the humor here... any reasonable person would have done the same. secondwind Aug 2021 #1
The only thing he was prepared for was fleeing the country with cars, cash and a helicopter malaise Aug 2021 #4
I guess I just don't find any humor in any of this...oh well... secondwind Aug 2021 #17
It is dark humor malaise Aug 2021 #18
Were his forces the Taliban??? Docreed2003 Aug 2021 #2
they did not fight yesterday, but many did fight earlier this summer. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #9
See ya on the Lake Geneva shoreline, Ashraf BeyondGeography Aug 2021 #3
He had to know that the Afghan military was a fake and worthless army. dalton99a Aug 2021 #5
Well....he did say 'if' he did anything. At least he was honest. n/t Captain Stern Aug 2021 #6
At least the last Afghanistan president in the 90s fought to the bitter end ansible Aug 2021 #7
No shit TheRealNorth Aug 2021 #12
This guy was either lying or stupid. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #8
Baldfaced lying is a required skill in the Middle East. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #10
It was certainly a successful strategy in terms of keeping the US cash spigot open. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #11
We didn't stay because we believed Ghani's public statements. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #14
Corruption is prevalent here in the US as well. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #20
Is it equivalent in kind and degree? No. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #21
From whre did he get all that money we heard he fled with? malaise Aug 2021 #13
He got sold down the river by tribal leaders... JCMach1 Aug 2021 #15
Plenty of western security contractors made bank... TheRealNorth Aug 2021 #16
Planned the surrender? Wish we knew that years ago. LakeArenal Aug 2021 #19

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. I don't see the humor here... any reasonable person would have done the same.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:50 PM
Aug 2021

What am I missing.........

malaise

(268,885 posts)
4. The only thing he was prepared for was fleeing the country with cars, cash and a helicopter
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:52 PM
Aug 2021

I find that hilarious

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
17. I guess I just don't find any humor in any of this...oh well...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:15 PM
Aug 2021

What I AM happy about is that the US and the Taliban just agreed to continue to evacuate and that there will be "thousands" more that we will be bringing out of the country...

malaise

(268,885 posts)
18. It is dark humor
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:24 PM
Aug 2021

because Western powers always find themselves associated with the worst of scoundrels

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
2. Were his forces the Taliban???
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:51 PM
Aug 2021

The Afghan National army put up no resistance. None! The Taliban literally rolled into Kabul like sightseers. The ANA laid down arms and went home. So how was that preparation?

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
9. they did not fight yesterday, but many did fight earlier this summer.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:00 PM
Aug 2021

the special forces troops in particular, before the collapse started.

NYT casualty reports:
https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/afghan-war-casualty-reports

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
7. At least the last Afghanistan president in the 90s fought to the bitter end
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:55 PM
Aug 2021

He just looks like a coward who cut and ran

TheRealNorth

(9,475 posts)
12. No shit
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:05 PM
Aug 2021

Even the government the Soviets left lasted 3 years. That there were not many Afghanis willing to die for the American-backed government should tell us something- that we never had much buy-in from the people.

Irish_Dem

(46,880 posts)
8. This guy was either lying or stupid.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 12:58 PM
Aug 2021

If he can flee with a helicopter paid for by the US and a boatload of US cash, I guess he is not stupid.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
14. We didn't stay because we believed Ghani's public statements.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 01:10 PM
Aug 2021

I am not primarily upset about the graft. Corruption is endemic in the "Developing World", and it is a stubborn nut to crack.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
21. Is it equivalent in kind and degree? No.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 02:46 PM
Aug 2021

"Prevalent" is subjective. The US is 25 on this list; Afghanistan is 165:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

I can't believe I have to argue these points on DU. The US is not a corrupt nation in the same way as Afghanistan.

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