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I do care about the influence they may have on less well-informed Americans. (Which is probably a much larger section of the population than most of us would wish.)
I stand firmly behind what Joe's doing right now. I would hate like hell to see the media coverage/criticism of the Afghanistan withdrawal tank his approval rankings, because of the possible impacts on other things he's trying to do. But sometimes a president has to do what needs to be done and worry about picking up the pieces later. I'm sure he knows that, and I believe he's up to the job. 
are losing their collective shit about this, you have to wonder. Did they give this much of a shit when MF45 "negotiated" the release of 5,000 Taliban fighters? Those are the same Taliban terrorists who are taking over Afghanistan at this very minute.
All day, nothing but hand wringing, wailing and gnashing of teeth about the poor Afghani people, and how we've let them down. 
20 years, untold billions of dollars, thousands of American dead, and the minute we start to leave the entire country folds like a 2 legged card table? Bullshit. We didn't let them down. They let themselves down.
especially messy because we backed the losing side.
The past 2 days did not happen in a vacuum.
It is just the RW Corporate backed MEDIA and Neocons on both sides who are trying to make President Joe look bad and deflect the blame from THEMSELVES!!!!!!!!
The military was blindsided by the SPEED of the collapse of the Afghan Army. They are dong the BEST they can under the circumstances, and diplomatic efforts (plus wielding a BIG STICK by our General on the ground at the airport) are thus far keeping the worst of the Taliban at bay.
We were NEVER there to fight for Women's rights. We were NEVER there to stop the Opium trade.
We were there to PROTECT CORPORATE assets like oil pipelines. The rest is simply kabuki fed to us by the 1%.
and accurate.
I was watching the speech on CNN. Turned it off 2 seconds after when Tapper said Biden was "forced, forced" to speak to the nation.
should have done ai much better job of leaving, and certainly.of keeping our.promise of evacuation to our Afghan Allies, who now face almost CERTAIN death at the hands of the Taliban. 
I think we all know Blind Loyalty when we see it. 
Most of us here don't watch THAT media.
whom she calls a "friend", on her show the other night. I'm sure you'll excuse those who may be inclined to accept her endorsements over yours. 
No one here is anti- Biden, but he needs to take responsibility and do the right thing...That's all.
