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Larry Sabato and David Rothkopf nail Biden's critics in the media (Original Post) highplainsdem Aug 2021 OP
Biden took a stand. The kind of leadership we need. tecelote Aug 2021 #1
Which part of the Afghan government didn't want them to evacuate people because they thought JohnSJ Aug 2021 #2
A true no-win situation... DAMANgoldberg Aug 2021 #3
Thank you, David Rothkopf. crickets Aug 2021 #4

JohnSJ

(92,174 posts)
2. Which part of the Afghan government didn't want them to evacuate people because they thought
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 04:49 PM
Aug 2021

it would create panic don’t they understand

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
3. A true no-win situation...
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 06:59 PM
Aug 2021

We all know the "Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't" aspect of this. I trust Biden to ultimately get it right, and that's the best one can hope for now after what I have now learned/rejogged about 40+ years of this current situation @ minimum. But it's all about ratings during "Breaking News" time.

crickets

(25,963 posts)
4. Thank you, David Rothkopf.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:56 PM
Aug 2021
David Rothkopf @djrothkopf

I hear some commentators saying Biden didn't explain why events unfolded as they did. But he did. They just don't want to hear the reasons he gave...that the Afghan military and government provided zero resistance and rejected taking steps to enable earlier evacuations.
4:35 PM · Aug 16, 2021


"and government" -- One thing Biden didn't mention specifically was that a certain individual involved in that plan decided to desert the country early, with no warning. The US plan to leave did not take place in a vacuum. There are some logistical elements beyond Biden's control. This was one of them:

Vincent Lee @Rover829



Bloomberg: Afghan and Taliban negotiators reached a deal for a 2-week ceasefire in exchange for President Ashraf Ghani’s resignation and the start of talks on setting up a transitional government. But it collapsed when Ghani fled the country, sources say
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Afghan Cease-Fire Deal Struck in Doha Collapsed After Ghani Fled
The weeks leading up to Kabul’s collapse saw a flurry of diplomatic activity by the U.S. and its allies in Qatar aimed at heading off exactly the chaotic scenes in the Afghan capital that have so...
bloomberg.com

3:40 PM · Aug 16, 2021


I admire the hell out of Biden for taking his lumps with the statement, "I am President of the United States of America, and the buck stops with me." That took courage and integrity. Thanks, Joe.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2021/08/16/remarks-by-president-biden-on-afghanistan/
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