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How awful can the Taliban be if someone holds on to a flying plane to avoid it ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 OP
The Taliban castrated the last president of Afghanistan before dragging him to death in a pickup ansible Aug 2021 #1
I was thinking the same thing Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #2
The 12th century. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #3
Probably similar to the German cities in the path of the Russian Juggernaut in WW2. WarGamer Aug 2021 #6
The young women and girls have no future. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #8
In March 1945, the British printed a German-language black propaganda postcard, supposedly issued by Celerity Aug 2021 #15
NONE Their religion prevents it. Just as it prevented them from killing men in their sleep. Runningdawg Aug 2021 #11
I don't know. Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #16
Define awful. WarGamer Aug 2021 #4
This is a dreadful thing either the Afghanis support or they get to bring down themselves. marble falls Aug 2021 #5
Really awful. Which is why they should have fought for their own country. NH Ethylene Aug 2021 #7
Given the literacy rate and education system in the country BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #9
Yeah, too bad their president and army decided to just run away. PSPS Aug 2021 #10
Rather than fall hopelessly from a plane, why not pick up a gun and fight? mainer Aug 2021 #12
These transfers of power usually end in a purge or two Johonny Aug 2021 #13
I am guessing those grabbing onto a plane didn't have much of an understanding of how dangerous Quixote1818 Aug 2021 #14
There's videos of bodies getting trapped in the landing gear too ansible Aug 2021 #18
They're a minority treestar Aug 2021 #17
 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
1. The Taliban castrated the last president of Afghanistan before dragging him to death in a pickup
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:40 PM
Aug 2021

Pretty bad.

WarGamer

(12,427 posts)
6. Probably similar to the German cities in the path of the Russian Juggernaut in WW2.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:45 PM
Aug 2021

Thousands of women committed suicide rather than take the abuse that was imminent.

Celerity

(43,286 posts)
15. In March 1945, the British printed a German-language black propaganda postcard, supposedly issued by
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 08:14 PM
Aug 2021
the Nazi government, giving detailed instructions on how to hang oneself with the minimum amount of pain.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080208060341/https://www.psywar.org/postcards.php



This one is addressed to "Frau Edith Lenk, Falkenstein, Vogtld." Vogtland is an area in the easternmost part of Germany in Saxony / Sachsen.

"If you want to avoid useless suffering pay attention to the following instructions:
1.) Choose a strong cord, about the strength of a clothes-line. A thin one cuts and hurts.
2.) Tie the knot of the bow in a way that the bow will not tighten the cord. The cord must go unhindered through the bow.
3.) Grease the bow and cord well to achieve a sleek fastening of the noose.
4.) Avoid getting strangled before jumping, or you will have to struggle longer.
5.) Secure a full jump. This guarantees a break of the neck instead of getting strangled. Climb a chair or a table and fix the noose high enough (use a hook in the ceiling or wall), so that your feet will hang free after the jump.
6.) Put the neck through the noose. Make sure that the knot and bow are behind the neck, not in front of the throat.
7.) Jump courageously. If you want to be sure, then jump as high and bold as you can to fall down near your jumping location, as if you wanted to make a joyful jump from the diving board into the water. The stronger the leap, the safer the break of the neck.

Don't hesitate!
The Horst Wessel standard is calling!
Hail Hitler!"

WarGamer

(12,427 posts)
4. Define awful.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:44 PM
Aug 2021

If you mean beating women for showing their ankles, throwing gay men from rooftops, practicing Sharia Law which dictates "HOW" a man may/must beat his wife, keeping women uneducated and pregnant, beating men on the streets for inappropriate beards, burning down churches and crucifying religious leaders...

If that sounds awful... then yeah, they're pretty awful.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
5. This is a dreadful thing either the Afghanis support or they get to bring down themselves.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:45 PM
Aug 2021

It's just plain not our fucking fight.

When the soviets got tired of the USSR, they brought it down in four days with a very, very few casualties.

When the Afghanis reach their tipping point, they will dump the Taliban.

NH Ethylene

(30,807 posts)
7. Really awful. Which is why they should have fought for their own country.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:54 PM
Aug 2021

The whole thing was just a huge disaster in slow motion. There is some blame to be laid on the feeble and corrupt army, which seemingly laid back and let others protect them for years, and then gave up without any fight at all.

I recall the news reports so many years ago of the Afghan girls having their first chance to go to school. They were as heart-warming as the return of oppression is heart-wrenching.

BannonsLiver

(16,352 posts)
9. Given the literacy rate and education system in the country
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:56 PM
Aug 2021

I’ve been wondering if some of them actually thought they could just hang on.

PSPS

(13,588 posts)
10. Yeah, too bad their president and army decided to just run away.
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 07:57 PM
Aug 2021

Bad things happen in the world. It's sad, to be sure, but sometimes you can't do anything about it.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
12. Rather than fall hopelessly from a plane, why not pick up a gun and fight?
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 08:05 PM
Aug 2021

If you're going to die for your liberty, why not put up a fight? If only there was the will. They certainly had the weapons.

Quixote1818

(28,927 posts)
14. I am guessing those grabbing onto a plane didn't have much of an understanding of how dangerous
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 08:08 PM
Aug 2021

that was. They might have thought it was like grabbing onto a bus or a train.

 

ansible

(1,718 posts)
18. There's videos of bodies getting trapped in the landing gear too
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 11:50 PM
Aug 2021

The flight crews are going to have nightmares for the rest of their lives

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. They're a minority
Mon Aug 16, 2021, 10:16 PM
Aug 2021

who would ask for asylum elsewhere, but the country as a whole has no problem with living under the Taliban.

Though we complain, we are lucky to be born American. And we took in asylees and refugees well until the TFG administration.

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