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speak easy

(9,238 posts)
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:20 PM Aug 2021

Taliban Press Conference: "There is a huge difference between us now and 20 years ago"

The Taliban have held a press conference is in media center used by former government officials, taking questions from both male and female journalists. Their spokesman, Zabihullah Mujahid said

Government

"We are working seriously on forming the government. It will be announced after completion." "We are all going to make sure that we can include all other sides and factions. "After the government is formed we are going to decide what laws will be presented to the nation"


Unity

"We want to make sure Afghanistan is no longer a battlefield of conflict We have pardoned all those who have fought against us. Animosities have come to an end. "

"We don't want anybody [forced] to leave the country," he adds. There is an amnesty.We have pardoned everybody for the benefit of stability or peace in Afghanistan"


Reprisals

"When asked about contractors and translators who have worked with foreign powers, Zabihullah Mujahid says: "Nobody is going to be treated with revenge The youth who have grown up here, we do not want them to leave. They are our assets."

"Nobody is going to knock on their door and ask them who they have been working for. They are going to be safe. Nobody is going to be interrogated or chased."


Terrorism

"Afghanistan's soil is not going to be used against anybody," Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid says when asked about the risk of the country housing al-Qaeda fighters. We can assure the international community of that."


Press Freedom

I would like to assure the media that we are committed to the media within our cultural frameworks. Private media can continue to be free and independent.

"You in the media should pay attention to [our] shortcomings so we can serve the nation ... But the media should not work against ... the unity of the nation."


Women's Rights

"[We] are committed to the rights of women under the system of [Islamic law]"

"We do not want to have any problems with the international community"

"We have the right to act according to our religious principles. Other countries have different approaches, rules and regulations... the Afghans have the right to have their own rules and regulations in accordance with our values."

'Women will be allowed to work and study'. "They are going to be working shoulder to shoulder with us. We would like to assure the international community that there will be no discrimination."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-58219963

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Taliban Press Conference: "There is a huge difference between us now and 20 years ago" (Original Post) speak easy Aug 2021 OP
this is interesting. Let's see if they hold to their word. Maybe power means more to them than JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #1
There sure is, they now have a military paid for by billions of dollars of US taxpayer money ansible Aug 2021 #2
Read, bookmarked, and will pray that these statement will be the frame work for an honorable Ninga Aug 2021 #3
Watch what they do not what they say uponit7771 Aug 2021 #4
If true and they stick to these words, then they are to be applauded. Thomas Hurt Aug 2021 #5
if Afghan women "continue to live according to Sharia, we will be happy, they will be happy" FelineOverlord Aug 2021 #6
I don't know how women are supposed to be happy under Sharia law wryter2000 Aug 2021 #7
One difference is that Mullah Omar, the founder of the Taliban, has been dead for years andym Aug 2021 #8
Mullah Omar's daughter was married to Osama Bin Laden. speak easy Aug 2021 #9
It sounds reasonable. honest.abe Aug 2021 #10
The Taliban said the correct things at their press conference PufPuf23 Aug 2021 #11
'We don't want any problems with the international community' speak easy Aug 2021 #13
It's all bs. Oneironaut Aug 2021 #12
And so are the Iranians; speak easy Aug 2021 #14
They talk a good game. lpbk2713 Aug 2021 #15
They don't want the 1980 sanctions the U.S. imposed on Iran speak easy Aug 2021 #19
I will wait to see how this plays out. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #16
I'll take a small patch of blue sky at the moment. speak easy Aug 2021 #20
I agree ☝️ sheshe2 Aug 2021 #22
Actions will speak far louder than words relayerbob Aug 2021 #17
We'll see. Solly Mack Aug 2021 #18
The Taliban have Iran sitting next door speak easy Aug 2021 #21
Uh huh..... n/m BradAllison Aug 2021 #23
Maybe MenloParque Aug 2021 #24
I'd like this in the US... Claire Oh Nette Aug 2021 #25
Then there are articles about their recent behavior like the one below. CentralMass Aug 2021 #26
And you believe that incident was officially/non officially sanctioned? speak easy Aug 2021 #27
I think that their reputation proceeds itself. CentralMass Aug 2021 #29
Probably 100% bullshit. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #28
Oh, sure. 🙄 nt Raine Aug 2021 #30
Walk the talk Taliban. nuff said MoonRiver Aug 2021 #31

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
1. this is interesting. Let's see if they hold to their word. Maybe power means more to them than
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:22 PM
Aug 2021

religion.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
3. Read, bookmarked, and will pray that these statement will be the frame work for an honorable
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:26 PM
Aug 2021

Afghanistan.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. If true and they stick to these words, then they are to be applauded.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:28 PM
Aug 2021

I imagine these freedoms will probably be more restricted than the western world is used to.

wryter2000

(46,037 posts)
7. I don't know how women are supposed to be happy under Sharia law
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:33 PM
Aug 2021

If they're right about forgiveness and amnesty, maybe things won't be as horrid as we've feared. I'm not going to take this on their say-so, though.

andym

(5,443 posts)
8. One difference is that Mullah Omar, the founder of the Taliban, has been dead for years
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:33 PM
Aug 2021

Omar was the inspiration behind the Taliban, creating it in 1994.
His co-founder Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar had been in prison in Pakistan for almost a decade before being freed-- perhaps the time in prison provided some perspective.

speak easy

(9,238 posts)
9. Mullah Omar's daughter was married to Osama Bin Laden.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:40 PM
Aug 2021

It is an open question how much of the previous regime was a reflection Al-Queda values, subsequently assumed in extremis by ISIS. But I doubt Omar required much encouragement to be more repressive.

PufPuf23

(8,767 posts)
11. The Taliban said the correct things at their press conference
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:43 PM
Aug 2021

Words now and actions over time may and likely will be different.

Best hope is that the current situation calms rapidly and everyone that wants to get out, gets out.

Some items, specifically, "[We] are committed to the rights of women under the system of [Islamic law]", are unlikely to be fair to women nor acceptable to the sensibilities of most Americans.

POTUS Biden and the Democratic Party are taking a political hit that likely could not be avoided. IMO this is the product of an immediate failure in intelligence and military planning; TFG's agreement with Taliban; and the whole sorry mess when GWB et al decided to invade rather than have special ops (as happened) address UBL.

Here is TFG's agreement (that I read for the first time today, and did not know existed). Everyone should read this (short).

https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf



speak easy

(9,238 posts)
13. 'We don't want any problems with the international community'
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:48 PM
Aug 2021

It was the one thing their spokesman repeated over and over again. They have Iran sitting next door as an example of a sanctioned state.

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
12. It's all bs.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:47 PM
Aug 2021

They’re religious fundamentalists. In a month from now, they’ll go back to arbitrary executions over things like dancing, and they’ll go back to systematically abusing women and girls. All of this “we’ve changed” garbage is just PR.

speak easy

(9,238 posts)
19. They don't want the 1980 sanctions the U.S. imposed on Iran
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:57 PM
Aug 2021

let alone the current sanctions. Iran is next door. No doubt it is a pretty sobering spectacle.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
17. Actions will speak far louder than words
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:54 PM
Aug 2021

We will see. I hope, against all hope, that they are telling the truth. Seems unlikely, but ..... hope

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
18. We'll see.
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:55 PM
Aug 2021

Won't be holding my breath though.

Lot of wiggle room in those statements and not for the good.

speak easy

(9,238 posts)
21. The Taliban have Iran sitting next door
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 12:59 PM
Aug 2021

as an example of what happens if the U.S. is seriously offside.

MenloParque

(512 posts)
24. Maybe
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:05 PM
Aug 2021

In the Stan all things are possible. As someone who has lived and fought in the Kandahar region for two years, I’ve seen the supposed good guy Afghan soldiers do horrible, heinous things. I have also witnessed the Bad Taliban provide food and aid to poor villagers. Nothing is what is seems in the Stan, and any media coverage regarding day to day operations is hilariously wrong. So, who the fuck knows.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
25. I'd like this in the US...
Tue Aug 17, 2021, 01:41 PM
Aug 2021
"You in the media should pay attention to [our] shortcomings so we can serve the nation ... But the media should not work against ... the unity of the nation."


Our media chases ratings. Agreement doesn't create conflict. Conflict drives ratings.

Our media fell apart when the Powers that be decided the news division had to turn a profit, too.


I remain skeptical of sharia law making women happy, but all we can do it wait and see, and sponsor Afghanis.
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