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kpete

(71,979 posts)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 11:50 AM Aug 2021

The rush to judgment and hysteria from media wasn't necessary. Actually, it was embarrassing

Richard Engel

At kabul airport, military side, more order than before. Evacuations picking up. Seeing more Afghan families being taken through. Planes taking off. Base well guarded.


I understand chaos is normal in a country where a war was going on for 20 years. This wasn’t a planned social entertainment event which went wrong-it’s an ongoing war ending-hence chaos. The rush to judgment and hysteria from media wasn’t necessary. Actually, it was embarrassing

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so in less than 48 hours... despite the Afghanistan military roll over and its government deserting its own people, the US continues to evacuate both its citizens and Afghans at risk... as was ALWAYS THE PLAN

glad you had a nap and a xanax


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Scrivener7

(50,934 posts)
3. I think he is an extroadinarily valuable reporter who regularly gives us eyes into the world's most
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:10 PM
Aug 2021

dangerous places.

Not sure I would be stoic and perfect in my reactions to the sights he sees.

agingdem

(7,827 posts)
4. so he's a twenty years on the ground
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:19 PM
Aug 2021

real time witness to the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld catastrophe and it took him less than twenty minutes to excoriate Biden for what was never going to be anything but a chaotic exist and now Engel is backtracking...good...to paraphrase Billy Joel..Biden didn't start the fire...

McKim

(2,412 posts)
13. He does a good job but.....
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 02:51 PM
Aug 2021

He does a good job, but like too many Americans he is addicted to the forever wars. For too many they are a football like spectacle. Keep us focused over there so we don't notice how poor we are and lacking in social goods like Western Europe.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
5. the media in America
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:20 PM
Aug 2021

seeks drama, not truth. Rare journalists and Rachel Maddow media personalities do. Visual events like this and the media misconceptions they spawn are MSM bread and butter. They aren't looking for truth. The prior person who ruled this country poisoned this country. It is in an advanced stage of rot. Hopefully with the competent hand of the Bidens and Harris's we will get back on track in search of an equitable and all-inclusive society-culture.

RockRaven

(14,950 posts)
7. There is an entire cohort of reporters and pundits whose career is built on war coverage
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:27 PM
Aug 2021

and commentary in the middle east/central asia who were faced with the daunting prospect of re-orienting their professional life due to apparent sudden irrelevance plus embarrassing ignorance of their area of supposed expertise. It's not surprising they freaked out and shrieked like their hair was on fire. But it does highlight that most of them should not be listened to, they are too far up their own ass to see or speak clearly.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
15. There's those retired generals "old warmongers" also those foreign affairs warmonger guys -
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 02:57 PM
Aug 2021

David Ignatius, David French and others. They’ve never seen a war they didn’t like. They are deeply upset to see the occupation ending.

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
8. Cable media over the top digging up every Biden critic for several days
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:34 PM
Aug 2021

But that won’t stop them from continuing.

BannonsLiver

(16,342 posts)
10. Engel embarrassed himself Monday IMO
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 12:43 PM
Aug 2021

He also tried to start shit about the dogs being evacuated and was thoroughly rebuked on Twitter. GOOD.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
11. He just did it again, tweeting about Taliban with whips.
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 02:44 PM
Aug 2021

Engel just tweeted a video labeled Taliban with whips. It was actually an orderly line of people and one Taliban guy walked buy carrying a small whip like thing. Not unlike the way the authorities in India keep a line orderly.

Katinfl

(156 posts)
14. I usually like Engel's reporting
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 02:54 PM
Aug 2021

But he was over the top these past few days. I had to turn off MSNBC because of the one-sided coverage they were giving the situation. Constant showing of the video with people hanging onto the plane was redundant. Was there ever going to be a good withdrawal that went according to plan? No. It was never going to be easy or safe. But the media coverage is way over the line. What about Haiti? What about the Covid situation? What about voting rights? what about women’s rights here in the US? The withdrawal and the chaos surrounding it is a story, but it is not the only story pertinent to the times we are living in. The media is making this out to a story about Biden and failure because they have nothing else to “get” him on. IMHO.

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