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JohnSJ

(92,134 posts)
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 01:07 PM Aug 2021

While it takes more than 50% of the voters to remove the Governor from a recall,

it only takes a fraction of that to get elected

That is insane, and if California does NOT reform the way it does its recall after this, it does not speak highly of those in the legislature who have the power to do it


https://calmatters.org/commentary/2021/07/4-needed-reforms-of-californias-recall-election-rules/

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peppertree

(21,624 posts)
1. And the signature treshhold is FAR too low.
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 01:17 PM
Aug 2021

What was it? 1.8 million idiots?

You could get that many Republicans to sign a petition to blow up the moon, if Needy Amin supported it.

peppertree

(21,624 posts)
3. It's a loophole you could drive a truck through
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 01:20 PM
Aug 2021

Perfect for Repug circuses - and at $215 million in CA taxpayer cost.

Because, you know, the Golden State has nothing else they need to spend that money on right now.

haele

(12,647 posts)
11. Not only that, but the current round of GQP bozos were given an extension for signatures.
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 03:03 PM
Aug 2021

They couldn't get the minimum to recall in six months, even when going into mall/mega-church parking lots at the end of services to collect signatures.
They had to find a conservative nut-judge to approve a two month extension to get signatures, then sent out an emergency bat-shit signal to get the remaining 100k or so they were short.

And there was and is still.some question on how legit all the signatures were, because before the deadline, they kept having to toss out signatures as being invalid or faked - after all, there can't be 500 people named Mickey Mouse who are registered to vote in CA...

Haele

peppertree

(21,624 posts)
12. +1
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 06:14 PM
Aug 2021

Amazing. It's a rule made for cheaters.

Which, of course, is why it's become the go-to response from the CA GOP whenever an election doesn't go their way.

I wish they could be sued to recoup the $215 million sacamento is being forced to wasted on this.

Because you know: there's nothing else going on right now.

JohnSJ

(92,134 posts)
5. Not enough time, which is another reason this was not only a complete waste of money
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 01:38 PM
Aug 2021

but the next election for Governor is in November 2022

The legislature can do things though. Reform the recall process at the very least


Sympthsical

(9,072 posts)
6. I still say it's insane not to have a backup
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 01:44 PM
Aug 2021

Yeah, yeah, all the eggs in the Newsom basket.

But if he does lose, we could get Larry Elder. Republicans are coalescing around him.

We decided on no one.

Let's see how it plays out.

JohnSJ

(92,134 posts)
7. I agree, and I put in Paffrath as an alternative. Not because I think he is
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 01:46 PM
Aug 2021

so great, but because he has the best chance out of all the other Democratic candidate alternatives


Salviati

(6,008 posts)
8. A monumentally stupid decision
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 02:05 PM
Aug 2021

to completely cede any decision making opportunity to those who vote for the recall

cojoel

(957 posts)
9. I wish after the Davis recall
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 02:47 PM
Aug 2021

possibly during the Brown administration, the laws has been changed. Some changes might be more signatures required to have a recall election, and if the recall is successful, instead of a sham election the Lt. Governor becomes the governor.

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
10. It should be a minimum number in each county based on last election.
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 02:53 PM
Aug 2021

Not total of state. That way they couldn't get everything just from certain areas.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
13. Are you really suggesting
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 07:25 PM
Aug 2021

An "electoral college" system by county?

Have you seen a map of California counties? They are largely Red with the coastal big city areas being Blue...

LiberalFighter

(50,888 posts)
14. No. I am suggesting a minimum number of voters must sign for a recall
Wed Aug 18, 2021, 08:02 PM
Aug 2021

in each county. There are 58 counties. If 40,000 total voted in a county in the last Governor's election then they must have say 20 or 25% sign the recall in that county.

Not based on 20 or 25% of the total for the whole state. That would be easier to reach because they could focus on areas they know would support it.

They would have difficulty in counties like Alameda, Marin, San Franciso, San Mateo, Santa Cruz, and Sonoma.

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