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I live in Montana. Florida has been showing 40 times the number of infections for weeks, yet their number of daily deaths have been virtually the same as Montana. When you compare their numbers of deaths to California and Texas, who have both been posting lower numbers of daily cases, the survival rate in Florida seems so much better. Simply Amazing. Or could they have a different way of counting in Florida? Maybe it is the quality of health care. I am only an old audio engineer. What do I know? In my world physics and science are constant and professionals get consistent results no mater where they work, all things being equal. Snark aside, something looks off in the Florida data. Nothing against their doctors.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)to find out who they might've shared the real data with.
Does that ... answer the underlying question at hand?
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Florida doesn't always report deaths, and the #'s on Worldometers each day are ALWAYS incorrect.
They are averaging around 175 deaths/day on a 7-day average basis.
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+deaths+florida
mjvpi
(1,388 posts)You made me read real news reports.
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)Florida is doing some funny things in reporting so it's not the daily headline.
I don't think they can get away with all out lying, so they're not reporting it regularly and are hiding the worst days they report.
oasis
(49,376 posts)He's planning to make a bid for the presidency in 2024.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)Im seeing death counts of like 6 or 7 a day on worldometer but if you go to google and look at a 7 day rolling average the daily deaths have been in the 130-150 range. Ive heard theyre using something akin to accounting tricks by reporting very low daily rates then going back and correcting for them when they tally up the damage done for the previous week.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if lots of Covid-19 deaths are being counted as something else. It's true the doctors are very unlikely to falsify the death certificates, but it's also true that many of those death certificates may be open to "interpretation" by those who compile these numbers. Something like, "This death certificate says the person died of a stroke because he had blood clots from Covid-19. Count it as a stroke." may be going on in some jurisdictions, and possibly at the state level.
RockRaven
(14,959 posts)Even blue states have red counties -- and corrupt, partisan, or incompetent persons therein. The one thing that cannot be hidden -- in the US, for the most part -- is the fact that the person died at all.
"Excess deaths" might be less precise, but it will probably be more accurate when making state-to-state comparisons.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)but there can be long lags in reporting from some jurisdictions.
scipan
(2,341 posts)I can't seem to copy the graph but it looks like 1300-1400 excess deaths per week, so about 200/day.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
ananda
(28,858 posts)
Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)???
Phoenix61
(17,002 posts)Too easy to get caught. The county knows the numbers it sent to Tallahassee. Of course that didnt stop DeSatan from trying to spin it that the children in the hospital could be there for RSV not covid.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)but I wouldn't be surprised to find out there's some "interpreting" of the causes of death going on, when it comes to reporting Covid-19 deaths. Something like, "It says he had a stroke because he had blood clots from Covid-19? List it as a stroke."
Chainfire
(17,530 posts)Variable and flexible to fit the political message and having nothing to do with facts.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)possible to make things worse, just like DeSantis, but the Worldometers numbers do seem to show that standard 2-week lag time between case increase and death increase...
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/texas/
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)I think Worldmeters is pulling in the data funny.
Johns Hopkins seems to handle Florida's data fine.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/florida
ScratchCat
(1,981 posts)Florida has a very high median age. We have very high vaccination rates of the elderly. The current hospitalization numbers are populated by people 30-50 who were not vaccinated. Previously, the median age for a person hospitalized by Covid-19 was higher. This could partially explain the lower death rate for Florida. Though, as others have pointed out, numbers aren't being reported daily which then makes it more cumbersome to parse.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)If I die in FL of the Covid, it will get reported as kidney disease.
Cooking the books indeed.
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)They have probably been overruled many times on their cause of death.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)It's a thing down here.