On this day, I stand with Joe Biden and support his efforts in Afghanistan, COVID

[diehardblue]

vaccinations, voting rights, infrastructure, and those things that will correct the mess TFG made of Democracy. I understand that there will be times of great challenges, but it is always a part of the job. As long as he takes a stand and moves to correct and persevere, his battlefield will be fought with dignity. I further pledge that I am not subscribing to the daily witch hunt of the media that feels they have finally found his Achilles Heel. I recognize that many will disagree with me and that is okay, LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE. Proceed, Joe!

[njhoneybadger]

1. +1

solidarity

[pwb]

2. Well said.

All Cable news sucks, yes even the one with our favorites.

[denbot]

3. I stand with The President and his decision.

I served and deployed in the Persian Gulf. Twenty years is more than enough for them to get their shit together regardless of our help, and/or interference with their destiny.

[humbled_opinion]

37. I am pretty sure that's not the point.

We all agree that it was too long and too costly but no one can honestly look at this debacle and think it is OK.

Someone will be held accountable, I understand there will be bipartisan hearings so we will find out who dropped the ball.

We should all continue to pray that the barbarian hordes of Taliban stay cool headed until we get everyone out, if it becomes a bloodbath over there than God help us all.

[HighFired49]

42. I'm pretty sure that is the point

Even Pres. Biden said that was the point. He said that even if we stayed another 15-20 years that the result would be the same, except that we would have lost billions more dollars and thousands more people.

[soldierant]

48. It could never be done in a way that was OK.

And you're right, that is the point.

No, it is't OK, but it rhe least-not-OK way that could ever have been possible. And it needed to be done somehiw.

[certainot]

62. it's the fucking republicans, and don't forget it

are democrats once again going to let 1500 coordinated radio stations buzz the country with so much hypocrisy and 'concern' that it bleeds into the mainstream of city-dwelling 'analysts' who then go on TV and express so much concern for biden's actions that it scares the blue dog talk radio state dems into sabotaging action on global warming?

Matt Zeller, veteran and co-founder of the nonprofit organization No One Left Behind, also noted that the Trump administration took a sledgehammer to the Afghanistan visa program, which had allowed Afghan translators and others who aided the U.S. war effort to settle in our country. Zeller, who says an Afghan translator saved his life while he was deployed overseas, had plenty of tart words for the previous guy’s operation. Here he was during an Aug. 18 interview with CNN:

“The reason why all these people are stuck in Afghanistan right now is because the visa program that was created to get them here was purposely shut down by the Trump Administration for the last four years… They’re as complicit as the Taliban are for these people’s deaths” pic.twitter.com/ms5O9m4XDc

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 18, 2021

[Demsrule86]

4. I agree. K&R

[BlueJac]

5. K&R

[Bettie]

6. I do too

He's doing a lot more than I thought and is rising to the occasion in ways I never expected.

[MiHale]

7. KnR

[Jon King]

8. CNN is playing a very dangerous game.

Fact is if they keep slamming Biden and weakening his Presidency.....possibly no infrastructure gets done, Covid continues to ravage with every drop of lost credibility, voting rights do not get protected, climate change protections don't get done. That is what will happen when Repugs and vulnerable Dems feel Biden is wounded.

They are doing it for ratings. But all the executives have kids and grand kids and nieces and nephews. Yeah, we got some ratings but destroyed your future!!

Afghanistan does not affect your kid's and other kid's futures CNN....Biden failing would! WTH is wrong with these people?

[Treefrog]

9. You don't think they should report the news?

Interesting.

[gab13by13]

13. Maybe just report the news fairly,

What president Biden is doing seems to me to be pretty much the same policy that MF45 wanted to implement. I didn't see the MSM tie its panties in knots over MF45's Taliban peace plan or MF45's release of 5,000 hard core Taliban prisoners, and a set date to get out of Afghanistan.

[joshdawg]

14. The news, yes. Facts, data, etc

But not the "opinion" of some armchair general who has nothing worthwhile to say.

[Jon King]

38. Whats news? 800 died Americans from Covid or Afghanistan?

So its 'news' when they lead off with 10 talking heads bashing Biden on Afghanistan for 20 inutes......while 800 Americans die per day of Covid?

And never mention voting rights? Who decides what is news? Shouldn't news be what affects Americans the most?

[LanternWaste]

53. You think they are reporting the news accurately and without bias?

Interesting, part II.






No, not really. Not really interesting at all. Typical, but uninteresting.

[Elessar Zappa]

10. I don't think this attempt to wound Biden will ultimately be successful.

Sure, he’ll take a temporary hit in popularity. But after a few months when Afghanistan is out of the news, we can get back to work on the excellent infrastructure bills. I really believe that the passing of this will send Joe’s approval rating back up.

[Ligyron]

22. If we can get the people who want out on planes with no US deaths...

And the sooner the better, then the corporate MSM will have little to smear Joe with for very long.

Trump Would have created a diversion by now with some ridiculous, Over the top move if it were him taking the heat.

That is if they were not treating him as a hero for ending our involvement there Regardless of how many lives were lost in the process.

[PatSeg]

23. Yes, I am inclined to agree with you

No matter how things went in Afghanistan, the President would have taken a lot of criticism, because it was going to be unpredictable and messy. Biden has been around a long time and he knew that and I'm sure realized he would take a hit for his decision regardless of the consequences.

Presidents make the truly hard decisions, ones where there often are no good outcomes, just less bad ones and they have to consider the long range effects of those decisions. I cannot imagine what it must be like to make such decisions and have to live with the aftermath and barrage of criticisms.

So yes, I think the hit to his popularity will be short lived. The American people as a rule have a very short attention span.

[Tommymac]

55. Not just ratings this time - their Corporate Owners also own 'Defense' Industries.

They are trying to protect their vile cash cow.

The Afghan 'War' was a huge profit making endeavor.

Don't ever forget that there is no liberal or conservative main stream media - there is only CORPORATE mainstream media.

[Elessar Zappa]

64. Yes.

They can be “liberal” on some issues but when it comes to anything that might shake the system, which includes the military industrial complex, they’re always on the side of the status quo.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Seeing posters here trashing Biden all day every day.

So kick and rec this one.

[Karma13612]

12. Yea, CNN is being

Especially vicious and it will have dire consequences as we have seen in the past.

How do we try to mitigate this level of brute savagery????
This is seriously bad s**t they are peddling.

[Dopers_Greed]

18. CNN wants us to stay there for another 100 years it seems

[Karma13612]

60. Nah,

They just think it’s time to pressure Biden for no good reason.

Their efforts will cost us 2022 if we don’t push back hard.

[pazzyanne]

15. Exactly what you said.

Biden inherited the biggest clusterfuck in history from tfg. I've been around a long time, and have been politically active since 1965. We have had messes before, but nothing close to what we are experiencing now. I thank God and Georgia every day for giving us Biden at this point in time. Having followed Joe's political career since the late 1970's, I supported him knowing the contributions and the mistakes he has made. Those contributions far outweigh any actions I considered mistakes. He has my full support and complete confidence as my President!

[Bengus81]

16. 100% behind Biden getting us the HELL out of Afganistan.

Take the heat Biden,history will show only YOU had the guts to do this after 2500 of our military have died in that ridiculous charade.

[Blanks]

17. I watched a few minutes of the local news this morning...

If the press covered the suffering, stress, difficulties etc of regular Americans in regular American cities with the determination to make improvements for typical Americans that they put into exposing how difficult things are in Afghanistan, maybe our press wouldn’t be seen as such a joke.

[lark]

19. I stand with Joe.

Kick Miley to the curb, it's ridiculous that he didn't see this coming.

[The Wizard]

20. We used to

have the Fairness Doctrine until Reagan was told to veto it's renewal. Pox News, hate radio and Internet propaganda have damaged America for Putin's benefit.
Trump released 5000 Taliban enforcers from custody. Why won't the media talk about Trump's treason?

[niyad]

21. KNR

[praxEs]

24. And many more of us will agree.

[marble falls]

25. I support him to the max. When this crap is nailed down, he'll swivel a little more left.

[jaxexpat]

26. I've been in agreement on middle east withdrawal for 30 years.

Don't see a reason to change now, when it's suddenly fashionable.

And, yes, I have 25 year old shirts hanging in my closet. The blue silk one with the big guitar on the back should be, again, stylish by February 2023.

[gordianot]

27. I agree with Biden but some of the messaging is horrible.

I realize he walks a tight rope in opposition to a Fascist party and cannot call them out for what they are. Please fix the bureaucracy created by 4 years of Trump.

[oasis]

28. ImWithJoe

[wiggs]

29. Yes. Would rather have a leader with good intentions who sometimes falls short than a

leader who starts out with only corrupt self serving intentions and doesn't care where it leads

[MrModerate]

30. Ultimately Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan will be see broadly as the right choice. n/t

[secondwind]

31. K&R

[Texaswitchy]

32. President Biden didn't sell out the country to the Taliban.

Trump did.

We know he wanted a cut of the profits.

That is how he works.

Biden didn't release 5000 enemy soldiers.

Or the future President of Afganistan.

It is all on Trump's head.

[RVN VET71]

47. And don't forget that Biden knew the Afghan army was weak

but did not know how weak it was. Why didn’t he? Because FatMan-45’s Administration withheld intelligence from him before his inauguration and more than like doctored what intelligence they permitted to leak out.

FatMan-45 and Fat Mike both knew the afghan army was a tissue paper tiger that would melt away in the rain when Americans departed. Biden assumed they’d put up enough of a struggle to give his Administration time to pull out all Americans and American supporters before the final collapse. He, I am certain, did not think that even FatMan-45 and his criminal Administration would not betray America and American interests in Afghanistan by withholding vital information. Biden was wrong and I sincerely hope his last lingering drop of naïveté about FatMan45 has now been used up.

As for the media: Most of the negative crap it is flinging at Biden has to do with the humanitarian crisis caused by the faulty intelligence his Administration garnered regarding the weakness of the Afghan army. I have no objection to the media sympathizing with the suffering Afghans. I have nothing but contempt for the media’s eager willingness to lay all blame on Joe Biden for that suffering.

The press used to be better than this, much better.

[wnylib]

63. +1000.

[spanone]

33. K&R

[DippyDem]

34. Agree with it, 100 percent!

[marieo1]

35. Trust Joe Biden

I love Joe Biden and totally trust his choices. He is a great man and earned my trust a long time ago. All you naysayers can go jump in a lake!!!

[mcar]

36. +1000!

[Jon King]

39. Ha, someone actually said CNN reports the 'news'?!

Really? Give me a break. News would be the biggest issues that affect your audience any given day. Last time I checked 800 Americans died of Covid yesterday while our democracy and voting rights are being taken away.

But sure....its 'news' about what happens 9000 miles away that 'might' affect a few Americans. They lead with Afghanistan and devote most of their attention to finding every bad story they can report there.

CNN International should carry it, that is fine, but CNN US, no way they are trying to report the actual news. Its for ratings.

[Mme. Defarge]

40. Moi aussi!

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Please proceed, Mr. President.

[Joinfortmill]

41. Amen

[Politicub]

43. I stand with President Biden, too.

I can’t imagine the weight on his shoulders, and he is balancing more challenges, at the same time, than any president in my lifetime.

[reality1]

44. 100%

A truly great president that is facing difficult situations and making me proud with his efforts. I've got his back!

[Paladin]

45. As do I. (nt)

[LetMyPeopleVote]

46. We're so lucky to have Joe Biden as our President!

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[spanone]

49. Go Joe!

[AKwannabe]

50. Damn fuckin right!

[Ohioboy]

51. Joe was handed a bad situation after TFG

He's done a pretty good job considering what he was handed, actually not even "handed", TFG literally threw road blocks in his way and tried to deny him intelligence reports.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/biden-not-getting-intelligence-reports-because-trump-officials-won-t-n1247294

[Darwin2019]

52. Listen to someone who actually know what has happened in Afghanistan

Journalist Says Americans Are 'All Complicit' In The Situation In Afghanistan
by Steve Cool
][link:https://www.npr.org/2021/08/19/1029312157/journalist-says-americans-are-all-complicit-in-the-situation-in-afghanistan|

[kimbutgar]

54. I shudder to think where we'd be now is TFG was president

Every morning I wake up not afraid or worried because President Joe Biden is our president.

[Martin68]

56. Me too. It was a difficult decision, but it was the right one.

[SunSeeker]

57. K & R

[GoodRaisin]

58. I stand with you in standing with Joe.

He's doing great, across the board.

[shanti]

59. Absolutely stand with Joe

No more war! Period!

[Hoyt]

61. Stand by Biden and Democrats. But, criticism isn't abandoning anyone.