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Person of Interest

(365 posts)
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 06:06 PM Aug 2021

Texas hospitals may soon deny unvaccinated patients access to ICU beds


Hospitals in North Texas have "quietly developed" a plan to allow doctors to take vaccination status into account when deciding how to triage intensive-care beds if the coronavirus pandemic overwhelms ICUs, The Dallas Morning News reports.


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Texas hospitals may soon deny unvaccinated patients access to ICU beds (Original Post) Person of Interest Aug 2021 OP
Definitely. roamer65 Aug 2021 #1
The article is interesting. It discusses the social inequities and how POC are a factor mucifer Aug 2021 #2
Well POC need 5o get over it. There are 20 year old black people who they "don't trust medicine" Dream Girl Aug 2021 #14
They have been dumbed down as the rest of America has. It's part of the GOP plan. Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #17
interesting point admonish Aug 2021 #21
That's a good first step. captain queeg Aug 2021 #3
and some hydroxycloriqin reality1 Aug 2021 #8
Good. People who don't get vaccinated don't deserve an ICU bed. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Aug 2021 #25
I hope that in the future your wife will be able to get a vaccine. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #27
It HAS to come to this reality1 Aug 2021 #5
It is necessary and proper dalton99a Aug 2021 #6
Abbott has brought "death panels" to Texas... RockRaven Aug 2021 #7
I 100% agree with the policy (with exceptions for those who CANNOT get vaxxed) Coventina Aug 2021 #9
Rationing must happen when resources are limited.nt VarryOn Aug 2021 #10
Good Botany Aug 2021 #11
Immoral. Nt lostnfound Aug 2021 #12
Triage. Nt, Part IV LanternWaste Aug 2021 #13
What's immoral is these jerks not getting vaxxed and masked. AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #16
Immoral is putting health care providers Demobrat Aug 2021 #23
No, letting those MAGA jerks die is one of the most moral things we could do. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #24
Finally! housecat Aug 2021 #15
If they reject modern medical science (the vaccine), then modern medical science should reject them. CaptainTruth Aug 2021 #18
If the hospitals have to be the responsible grown-ups, so be it. Move on America and beat this virus Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #19
Excellent! Physicians and their administrative support, littlemissmartypants Aug 2021 #20
According to the anti-vaxxers Demobrat Aug 2021 #22
About TIME!!! We now have 380 DEAD from Covid in Kansas since June 1st Bengus81 Aug 2021 #26
No vaccine types can go sit in a tent Texaswitchy Aug 2021 #28
We should do the same Zeitghost Aug 2021 #29

mucifer

(23,487 posts)
2. The article is interesting. It discusses the social inequities and how POC are a factor
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 06:24 PM
Aug 2021

that should be taken into consideration. The mistrust People of Color have due to the history of medicine in the USA is very powerful.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
14. Well POC need 5o get over it. There are 20 year old black people who they "don't trust medicine"
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 07:36 PM
Aug 2021

With no idea why, just that they’re supposed to feel that way. If you ask them what the Tuskegee experiment was about they haven’t a clue. I believe a lot of black people are just parroting what they hear. There is definitely a historical basis to this, black men and women were poked, prodded and subjected to horrendous experimentation, sterilization, etc. My own sister will not take it and cannot articulate why exactly. She thinks it’s cute.I just think, use your common sense - are the nurses instructed to switch to a special toxic vaccine vial for black or other POC?

totodeinhere

(13,057 posts)
4. Good. People who don't get vaccinated don't deserve an ICU bed.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 06:28 PM
Aug 2021

That's what those MAGA assholes deserve for refusing a vaccination and putting the rest of us at risk. Of course we should make an exception for people who cannot get vaccinated for medical reasons.

Response to totodeinhere (Reply #4)

totodeinhere

(13,057 posts)
27. I hope that in the future your wife will be able to get a vaccine.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:03 AM
Aug 2021

But in the meantime, that's why the rest of us need to get vaccinated so we can protect people like your wife.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
16. What's immoral is these jerks not getting vaxxed and masked.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 07:48 PM
Aug 2021

They can just go to the end of the line. Why should a heart attack patient, say, get denied a bed on account of a COVID denier? That is triage.

It’s all on them if they get sick. Yes, I am — unapologetically — harsh. They are a huge reason why we’ve taken 10,000 steps back since spring and why we cannot get a handle on this plague. They can wait their turn for care.

EDIT: An exception should be made for those kids and others who can’t get vaxxed. But they are a minority compared to those who brag about not getting vaxxed and then want all the care in the world when they do get sick. I’m over them.

Demobrat

(8,961 posts)
23. Immoral is putting health care providers
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:49 PM
Aug 2021

is a position where they have to even make these decisions. That’s on the willfully unvaccinated. ALL of it.

totodeinhere

(13,057 posts)
24. No, letting those MAGA jerks die is one of the most moral things we could do.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:53 PM
Aug 2021

Trying to save our country from them is entirely moral.

littlemissmartypants

(22,594 posts)
20. Excellent! Physicians and their administrative support,
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 07:54 PM
Aug 2021

Are righteously fed up. Staff members are getting sick and dying, while others are quitting in droves. Past time to be proactive and set boundaries.

We're at war with an enemy virus. Contingency plans are more than appropriate and every tool in the toolbox should be considered and utilized.

Time for some extra tough love. It's a great way to gain the upper hand and we need more of that.

Demobrat

(8,961 posts)
22. According to the anti-vaxxers
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 07:58 PM
Aug 2021

Covid is no worse than the flu. So they shouldn’t be at the hospital anyway.

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
26. About TIME!!! We now have 380 DEAD from Covid in Kansas since June 1st
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 09:00 PM
Aug 2021

After seniors/doctors/nurses etc were first on the list in Feb/March, vaccinations have been open to all age groups in Kansas since April 1st. Everyone in Kansas could have been fully vaccinated by April 22nd. Yet here they are dying right and left four months later.

FUCK EM....they endanger EVERYONE because of their stupidity and political views.

Zeitghost

(3,850 posts)
29. We should do the same
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 04:38 PM
Aug 2021

With all who make poor healthcare choices. Want to smoke or live a sedentary life 100+ pounds overweight? To the back of the line.

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