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JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 06:46 PM Aug 2021

Shows won't book voices supportive of withdrawal on TV says communication professional


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Yesterday's newsletter detailed how the media is largely overlooking voices that supported Biden's decision to withdraw from Afghanistan. Instead media reports are almost exclusively highlighting criticism of the withdrawal — often from people complicit in two decades of failed policy in Afghanistan.

We have reason to believe that this is not an accident. On Wednesday, Popular Information spoke to a veteran communications professional who has been trying to place prominent voices supportive of the withdrawal on television and in print. The source said that it has been next to impossible:



https://popular.info/p/where-are-the-anti-war-voices
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Shows won't book voices supportive of withdrawal on TV says communication professional (Original Post) JoanofArgh Aug 2021 OP
I dont get it reality1 Aug 2021 #1
Leading with outrage to keep the doors open. They must not have enough readers and viewers who chowder66 Aug 2021 #4
The M$M pulled the same crap over Iraq RVN VET71 Aug 2021 #21
Many of the pundits they have on work or have links to JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #26
Yeah, they tired of Covid... BlueJac Aug 2021 #2
It can be effective journalism, or it can be for-profit. LanternWaste Aug 2021 #3
Further proof there's no such thing as 'liberal' media. J_William_Ryan Aug 2021 #5
Explanation? Corporate Media rickyhall Aug 2021 #6
Don't the media want to "both sides" this? gratuitous Aug 2021 #7
Controversy sells. lpbk2713 Aug 2021 #8
twitter thread no win for Joe reality1 Aug 2021 #9
Has anybody noticed that most of the U.S. MSM keeps doing exactly what sPUTIN abqtommy Aug 2021 #10
Well, it's certain to please tfg. nt crickets Aug 2021 #13
Play and replay video of Trump supporting withdrawal a few weeks before. And complaining it was to keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #11
it seems they've made a concerted effort stillcool Aug 2021 #12
Anyone know of any elected Democrats who were refused an opportunity Hoyt Aug 2021 #14
It doesn't matter to me since I turned them off a long time ago. totodeinhere Aug 2021 #15
Buh-bye cable news Generic Brad Aug 2021 #16
Brian Williams made a kind of anemic attempt. LisaM Aug 2021 #17
MSNBC had tamped down their Afghanistan JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #27
They're prepping and laying the ground work for a 2024 horserace Aviation Pro Aug 2021 #18
Can never be too cynical about these media guys. You could be right. :-( TheRickles Aug 2021 #19
I'm almost 100% sure Elessar Zappa Aug 2021 #22
I was wondering about this today. Lonestarblue Aug 2021 #20
Don't think reason Democratic Congresspersons have not appeared in Biden's Hoyt Aug 2021 #23
I haven't watched an ABCNNBCBS news broadcast for almost 2 years now Blue Owl Aug 2021 #24
That's because the "media" is partly to blame for the lies that got us in their. rockfordfile Aug 2021 #25

reality1

(123 posts)
1. I dont get it
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 06:50 PM
Aug 2021

M$M have their knives out for Joe. I knew there had to be people ready able and willing to defend a defensible position.

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
4. Leading with outrage to keep the doors open. They must not have enough readers and viewers who
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 06:53 PM
Aug 2021

are interested in anything other than that.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
21. The M$M pulled the same crap over Iraq
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 09:57 PM
Aug 2021

The major media outlets absolutely shut out any anti-war voices. They were interested in keeping up viewership by playing to the right wing and its hot and heavy jingoistic patriotic fever.

Now they’ve decided to paint Biden’s efforts only in dark and shadowy hues by calling on GOP mouthpieces to speak boldly in half-truths and outright lies about what led up to the temporary debacle in Afghanistan.

At least there are some strong voices on MSNBC and CNN who aren’t buying into the bullshit.

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
26. Many of the pundits they have on work or have links to
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:38 AM
Aug 2021

the defense industry , like Leon Panetta , Richard Haas etc and the news shows don’t disclose those links.

reality1

(123 posts)
9. twitter thread no win for Joe
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 07:17 PM
Aug 2021

Interesting reading the twitter thread. People are mainly upset at how we left and didn't get enough of our "allies" out.

BUT we are currently getting a lot of them out and the attack from the right that's mounting is that we're getting TOO many
out.

I saw some major push back where right wingers are pissed at their republican governors for letting these people in their state.

No win for Joe, and M$M are constantly shoving the mic into the face of Afghans so we hear how they "felt betrayed".

I have seen no one that is concretely saying what should have been different even with the benefit of hindsight.

The countries government was a sham and evaporated. Joe did the best with a bad situation.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
11. Play and replay video of Trump supporting withdrawal a few weeks before. And complaining it was to
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 07:34 PM
Aug 2021

Play and replay video of Trump supporting withdrawal a few weeks before.

And complaining it was too slow.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
12. it seems they've made a concerted effort
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 07:45 PM
Aug 2021

on what they want the American people to perceive is going on. Kind of hard to determine who the good guys are. Every federal agency seems a little off. Then we have terrorists from coast to coast, and state governments that do not care that people are dying. Feels like this free-floating anxiety is never going to end, but I'm almost afraid it will.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Anyone know of any elected Democrats who were refused an opportunity
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:17 PM
Aug 2021

to speak in favor of the past few days?

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
15. It doesn't matter to me since I turned them off a long time ago.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:22 PM
Aug 2021

I don't need CNN to tell me what to think and my support for President Biden is unshakeable.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
16. Buh-bye cable news
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:22 PM
Aug 2021

It's been unwatchable this week. CNN and MSNBC have both been just as bad as FOX this week. It's like madness has descended on them all.

LisaM

(27,802 posts)
17. Brian Williams made a kind of anemic attempt.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 08:51 PM
Aug 2021

He had Eugene Robinson on who seems to support withdrawal. The other guest didn't, but both sides got to speak their piece, at least.

It's disheartening, bur remember how the cable channels were all so pro war before the Afghanistan and Iraqi conflicts started.

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
27. MSNBC had tamped down their Afghanistan
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 03:45 AM
Aug 2021

coverage a lot from what it was when I watched yesterday afternoon and last night. They know thei viewership won’t stand for it too long.

Aviation Pro

(12,151 posts)
18. They're prepping and laying the ground work for a 2024 horserace
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 09:31 PM
Aug 2021

If they didn't, President Biden would win in a walk with the networks and cable outlets losing a ton of ad revenue.

Can't have that.

Elessar Zappa

(13,964 posts)
22. I'm almost 100% sure
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:02 PM
Aug 2021

that this Afghanistan stuff will blow over in a month or two. Once all the Americans are out, people will quickly forget that country. Joe will regain his popularity once the infrastructure bills pass.

Lonestarblue

(9,977 posts)
20. I was wondering about this today.
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 09:55 PM
Aug 2021

I was listening to an NPR interview with H. R. McMaster, who was merciless in describing the withdrawal as unnecessary and as totally botched. He did not say nice things about Trump, but neither did he excoriate Trump about getting 5,000 Taliban fighters released from prison. I finally stopped listening because he was incredibly annoying and basically wanted military to stay there indefinitely to protect the rights the Afghans have achieved, at least in the cities, over the last 20 years. Never mind the annual cost.

That was actually the third interview of McMaster I’ve heard—not just repeats of one program but three different programs. The media is just using this withdrawal to stir up disapproval of Biden. This morning, WaPo had four negative opinion pieces on Biden—out of six—on the home page. I’m really getting disgusted with how the media is treating this.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
23. Don't think reason Democratic Congresspersons have not appeared in Biden's
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 10:27 PM
Aug 2021

defense has anything to do with media not letting them on.

I do think some will be more willing to appear for Biden if he gets situation under control. There are some positive signs in that respect.

I expect some to be on Sunday shows saying, “Look, no one can defend the execution this past week, but we have turned the corner and are making progress.”

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
24. I haven't watched an ABCNNBCBS news broadcast for almost 2 years now
Thu Aug 19, 2021, 11:55 PM
Aug 2021

Damn it feels good to be a gangster…

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