texas hospitals might deny ICU beds to the unvaxxed

[rdking647]

if hospitals reach capacity they may start using vaxxed status in deciding who gets a bed.

Good. No vax---- no scare resources that can be used by responsible adults


https://www.rawstory.com/texas-hospitals/

[Blue Owl]

1. As it should be

[SoCalDavidS]

2. Most Of Them Are Unvaxxed

The % of Vaccinated patients in ICU is low.

[Wingus Dingus]

3. Well, ICU's are used for a lot more than covid.

Heart and brain surgeries, kidney failure, liver failure, traumas, sepsis, etc. If they have to triage people, I think it's fair to make unvaccinated-by-choice people who need ICU because of covid wait the longest for a bed.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. That is an appropriate use of triage! n/t

[summer_in_TX]

5. My husband went to his cardiologist today (routine visit).

We're one county south of Travis County (Austin, TX). His doc has been trying to schedule bypass surgeries for some patients. But the hospitals are full, all the way from San Antonio to north of Austin.

Life or death procedures cannot take place without ICU support.

100% full hospitals throughout Central Texas.

Current number of active COVID cases in Hays County today: 2,243.

[rdking647]

6. im in far north travis county

pflugerville

[summer_in_TX]

7. Any hospital beds open in Pflugerville?

Or Round Rock or Georgetown?

[TexasTowelie]

18. Bryan/College Station here.

Don't head this way, there are no rooms at the inn. If you contact Texas A&M they might be able to find some space in the stables or vet clinic.

[susanr516]

8. It's really bad.

I found out about 8:30 tonight that my oldest grandson (age 27) has Covid. He went to a minor ER due to breathing issues. The clinic is trying to get him admitted to a hospital, but couldn't find an available bed in TX. They are treating him with steroids, but there's no place in the entire state of TX with an available Covid bed. He is not vaccinated, both daughter and ex-SIL are anti-vaxxers. I'm so frightened and so very angry. Tried to talk to them about getting vaccinated, because they have both remarried and have minor children. It's like talking to a brick wall.

[Skittles]

9. very sorry susanr516

I very much dislike the TOO BAD, IT'S KARMA crowd because it doesn't take into account the medical folk caring for these people and also their loved ones......I think it is important not to lose our humanity no matter how angry we are. I hope your grandson will be OK, he has youth on his side.

[Dorian Gray]

25. This!

I hope he will be okay, and that this experience will get him to ecourage his loved ones and friends who are not vaccinated to get vaccinated. I'm sorry YOU have to go through this.

[Brother Buzz]

10. Triage, Baby!

[Moebym]

11. I hate to say this

But it needed to be done.

[monkeyman1]

12. hate to say it ,but it will this way all over the country really quick ,very soon !

[luckone]

13. I know 2 people in Chicago both fully twice vaccinated , wear masks but also both were working with

the general public indoors (a general chicago public who until now were finally allowed to unmask in many stores and venues after being vaccinated )
So the mandatory mask indoors went away but they both wore masks at work anyway with public unmasked plus under 30 no health issues not overweight or smokers .
Yet both have covid now and Chicago is going back to mandatory masks indoors for those vaccinated or not
everyone back to masks indoors here age 2 and older

The 2 people I know both did everything they could, but anti vaxers aren’t even trying to stop the spread , so I understand where these TX hospitals are coming from with that kind of decision

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

15. The upside, at least so far, is that the vaccinated almost never have to be

hospitalized, and rarely, if ever, die.

I was chatting with a neighbor tonight, and her daughter who is a nurse in California has now gotten Covid for the second time, despite being vaccinated.

I'm beginning to think that this won't finally end until every single person on the planet has gotten it and either died or survived.

[FreepFryer]

23. Deaths are happening, they aren't as unlikely as the use of "if ever" suggests. And it mutates on.

Nearly 10,000 fully vaccinated Massachusetts residents have now tested positive for COVID-19 and just over 100 of them have died, according to state data on breakthrough cases published Tuesday.

The Department of Public Health tracked a cumulative 9,969 confirmed COVID-19 infections among those fully vaccinated in the state to date and a total of 106 deaths. Both figures remain a tiny percentage -- about 0.23% -- of the more than 4.3 million people who have been vaccinated.

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/nearly-10000-breakthrough-covid-cases-reported-in-mass-over-100-have-now-died/2464309/

[lagomorph777]

29. Thanks for very encouraging stats from MA. 0.002% death rate for vaxxed people.

That clearly supports the claim of "very unlikely" to die if vaxxed.

[FreepFryer]

31. Yup. But it makes "if ever" very inaccurate and misleading. Statistics can tell many stories!

[Jakes Progress]

14. Set up tent hospitals in parking lot

for the unvaxed Covid patients. Staff it with nurses and orderlies who won't vax.

[SunImp]

22. 1+ This is how they should be cared for

[Pachamama]

28. +1000000

Only exception would be children under 12 who couldn’t be vaccinated through no fault of their own versus the anti-vaxxers and those eligible who choose not to be vaccinated.

The idea to staff it with the unvaccinated healthcare workers is also brilliant. (Still don’t understand how anyone in healthcare could choose to ignore science).

[lagomorph777]

30. "how anyone in healthcare could choose to ignore science" - look at Lyme disease.

Most doctors look at you like you're reporting a UFO abduction if you tell them you have chronic Lyme. Apparently this "germ theory of disease" is too new-fangled for them.

[cstanleytech]

16. Why are they claiming that this may impact minorities or low income people more

when the vaccine is free and this if implemented would merely give slightly more priority to those that are vaccinated?

[totodeinhere]

17. People of color have learned from past experiences not to trust the government when it comes

health care issues. It goes back the scandalous Tuskegee experiments during the 1950's. But I think as time has gone by people of color are becoming more accepting of the need to get vaccinated. The main problem now is the stupid MAGA assholes who refuse to get vaccinated. And some low income people may not have the wherewithal necessary to travel to a vaccination center. That's why we need to make sure that low income people have access. In my area, for instance, all anyone has to do is call the Covid hotline and they will be provided with free transportation to and from a vaccination center. We also need to to require employers to provide paid time off so their employees can get vaccinated. Some low income people can't afford to miss work and lose income.

[cstanleytech]

20. Tuskegee though makes little sense given that the only thing related is that we are talking

about vaccines and I wish more people would realize that because this virus does not care about who catches it.

[Demobrat]

19. Tragic, but so is the alternative.

Something has to give.

[cstanleytech]

21. "Something has to give." Pretty much. nt

[Dorian Gray]

24. Fine

but remember in all of this, CHILDREN can NOT be vaxxed.

And a 12-17 year old is not responsible for the medical decisions their parents make.

(I know they're less likely to have severe disease, but still.)

[lagomorph777]

32. I assume kids would be exempt because the government won't let us protect them.

[Dorian Gray]

34. Me too

but i think the anger gets loud, and there are children who are able to be vaccinated who aren't because their parents either won't let them or made them believe it's dangerous for them.

[Maru Kitteh]

26. To any bleeding hearts - we do this with organ transplants EVERY DAY

There are not nearly enough organs to go around. Therefore, those who have made the choice to destroy themselves are ineligible. The innocent have priority.

[lindysalsagal]

33. As it should be. This knowledge has had plenty of time to sink in. Let their magical thinking save t

them, since they're willing to bet their lives on it.

[Azathoth]

27. Give them some hydroxychloroquine and a copy of Art of the Deal and send them home