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gab13by13

(21,264 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:28 AM Aug 2021

Cyber Ninja Fraudit report

Well I see the Cyber Ninja fraudit report is coming out this Monday. The Ninjas are fighting to keep everything they did a secret and how they did it. It is going to the state supreme court.

What should we have expected? Our DOJ allowed this to happen because it only wrote a stern letter to the Ninjas, and stern letters and subpoenas don't count with the GQP.

Laugh at this report at your peril, for one thing it will occupy news space, for another it will invigorate the cult.

I just don't get it DOJ. Title 52 - Voting and Elections - Subtitle I and II is where federal election laws were violated. Ballots, voting systems, and other election materials were no longer in the custody of election officials.

Kristen Clarke is a wonderful choice to head the civil rights division of DOJ, I expected her to act. Maybe I missed something?

People who dismiss this as a sham are missing my point, why did DOJ allow this sham to happen?

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Lovie777

(12,218 posts)
1. They can't prove fraud . . .
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 08:52 AM
Aug 2021

if they try I'm pretty sure it will be debunked and the people conducted the sham audit will have to answer to it in court.

Nevertheless, RWer's goal again is to soil doubt and mistrust. They always will be penned as liars and anti-Democracy.

And the rate GOP's politicians are going with COVID - they sure are cutting their cult membership bigly.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
8. "Ballots, voting systems, and other election materials were no longer in the custody"
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:16 AM
Aug 2021

That fact is not in dispute, and is a violation in and of itself.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
3. Someone will be along, soon, to tell you,
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:25 AM
Aug 2021

the DOJ is working hard in the background on things you have no clue about, so shut up. I'm not saying that. I totally agree with you—where the fuck is the DOJ on this?

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
9. Garland (from any visible appearance) is a major disappointment so far.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:17 AM
Aug 2021

Time to bring in somebody more aggressive.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
10. We have some bulldogs in our party but we keep them on a short leash.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:22 AM
Aug 2021

And Franken? We kicked that dog to the curb.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. Mustn't wet any powder or ruffle any feathers.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:34 AM
Aug 2021

Can't be too aggressive in defending democracy; after all, decorum and collegiality and the Filibuster are more important.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
5. The DOJ going after this idiocy would ...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 09:33 AM
Aug 2021

… only give it more airtime and still invigorate the mob “ ‘cuz the deep state” or something.

We should not ignore it politically, and we should attack the bullshit voting rights legislation passed under its banner. But prosecuting these keystone ninjas would be likely backfire and be unwise.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Mustn't punish the perps; it'll only upset people.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:39 AM
Aug 2021

Same line of reasoning that allowed the progression of escalating crimes from Watergate to Iran Contra to the Iraq/Afghanistan wars to baby jails to open insurrection.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
13. THey haven't done anything illegal
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:44 AM
Aug 2021

They have not violated any Federal Statute.

For christ's sake, two Florida newspapers recounted the 2000 election under a different standard, got different numbers and nobody gave a sh!t or claimed they committed a federal crime by doing so.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
14. You forgot the sarcasm emoji.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:45 AM
Aug 2021

Handing over the ballots to a private entity is a violation of Federal law. But you knew that already.

Whiskeytide

(4,459 posts)
16. What crime, exactly, would you have these ...
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:50 AM
Aug 2021

… cyber ninjas prosecuted for? What should the DOJ go after them for? They are sanctioned by the AZ Republican legislature to conduct an audit. The fact that they have done it incompetently and with a clear bias doesn’t amount to a crime.

It’s stupid. We all know they’re full of shit. We all know it’s really a grift to keep $ rolling in from the base. And we all know it’s true purpose is to claim a bogus foundation for oppressive voter suppression laws in AZ and elsewhere. But it’s not a crime to my knowledge. The DOJ shouldn’t get involved in politically charged prosecutions unless they have a high probability of getting a conviction. I just don’t see that here.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
7. The Maricopa County Supervisors already told them to be prepared to
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 10:06 AM
Aug 2021

defend their findings in court, so this could get interesting.

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