America's Anti-Vaxxers Are Getting More Dangerous

[babylonsister]

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/08/americas-anti-vaxxers-are-getting-more-dangerous/

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America’s Anti-Vaxxers Are Getting More Dangerous
“One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine.”
Nathalie Baptiste

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But there’s still a frightening number of people who are refusing to get the shot for no good reason. As I’ve looked at their Twitter feeds and public statements, it seems that at least three distinct groups with three very different reasons are endangering public health. Some are motivated by political convictions, others by accepting scientific misinformation, and a third group has bought into conspiracy theories. Clearly there are no bright lines distinguishing them, and the Venn diagram might have a few intersections, but the unholy trinity can be found whining to reporters, delivering delusional speeches at City Hall meetings, or loudly protesting outside local schools.

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Those who have refused to get vaccinated for whatever reason now find themselves facing restricted access in some places. New York City, for example, plans to require vaccination proof to enter restaurants, gyms, and other businesses. San Francisco is requiring vaccine proof for certain indoor businesses as well. Brian Kilmeade, a host of Fox & Friends, had a solution! He told viewers in New York City to purchase a fake vaccine card. Isn’t it better, really, for the unvaccinated to commit a crime than get the shot?

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What all these people have in common is the dire consequences of their actions. Their refusal can and already has harmed vulnerable people. The surge and the backlash have coincided with school reopenings, with some teachers refusing to get vaccinated and placing children under 12, who are not eligible for the vaccine, and their families at risk. School districts in Mississippi and Alabama have already had to shut down because of outbreaks. Clearly, nursing homes are another incredibly vulnerable population. In a Washington Post op-ed, New Jersey–based writer Louise Dubin described an outbreak in her father’s nursing home because of unvaccinated nursing staff that led to the deaths of two residents—though her father survived.

The most alarming part isn’t that they don’t care about collective health; after all, individualism is one of the founding principles of American conservatism. Rather it’s astonishing to see how little regard they seem to have for their own lives. Denial is a powerful move. Purposely remaining unvaccinated increases your chance of hospitalization and death. Oftentimes the reality of the situation doesn’t become clear until anti-vaxxers are near death. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine,” Alabama doctor Brytney Cobia told the Washington Post about her patients suffering from COVID-19. “I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.” This is collateral damage from the tyranny of the anti-vaxxers. In the end, we’re all more vulnerable than we ever were.

[hlthe2b]

1. Threatening the very HCWs who will be their only hope for saving their lives...

And those coming through the ERs are so damned belligerent and non-compliant, I can't imagine why they would think that they might not face some consequences for those actions/attitudes. Yet they seem to be so addicted to "combat" against the rest of us, they seem not to think twice and there are no restraints on their behavior.

[genxlib]

2. Prosecuters should come out now

And announce that fake vaccine cards will be charged with "Assault with a Deadly Weapon"

I'm tired of fucking around with these people.

[Salviati]

11. Buying and selling fake vaccine cards can already be charged as a felony...

... and it should be. I'm tired of these insurrectionists and sabotagers being given slaps on the wrist so that they can carry on with their destructive behavior.

[Moostache]

24. Bring back the public stocks...put these people in a public cage and shame them

THEN throw them in prison for a mandatory 5 years at hard labor.

I'm sick and tired of allowing the lowest common denominator to run the country and get away with it.
Its time to set a floor on expectations for social acceptance. Mandated vaccination for participation may not end COVID-19 tomorrow, but it will bring it down from the current trajectory and for the vaccinated it will offer an assurance that life will go on with a new normal that does not include risk cowboys who don't care it others or themselves die just so long as they can puff out there chest one last time to own a lib...

[magicarpet]

3. Okay,... Okay,... I was only fucking with the Libs,...

... Now quick give me the Covid shot,.... he!p me,.. help me please,... I don't want to die.

[cojoel]

4. In Colorado one can add the vaccine to their electronic state ID

However, you don't add it by scanning your vaccine card. Rather, you add it by finding your vaccine card in the state records, who have assembled all of the vaccine cards from the many medical providers that gave the vaccines to the people. You cannot fake this for a dollar.

It would seem if a state was going to require vaccines then it should be based on this sort of state record and not an easily forgeable piece of stiff paper.

[mopinko]

7. they would be easily checkable. but you're right.

colo has a phone ap as well, i think.

[haele]

10. Same in CA, it's a QR code.

So you have both a copy of your vaccine card and the QR code that verifies you without personal info other than name from the state registry in accordance with HIIPA. Just show it as a picture on your phone, and you're good to go.

Win-win all around.

Haele

[dianaredwing]

20. You can even do this in Louisiana

Ain't technology somethin' else?

[Grins]

25. You mean....like a passport?? NM

[Moostache]

26. I can already hear the conspiracy theorists on that approach...

Arrrrggghhhhh....Mark of the Beast!!! Mark of the Beast!!! End times ARE NIGH!!!! Repent for the hour of doom is here!!!

Frankly, I do not care. Torment these imbeciles already with their own superstitions and irrational beliefs. If someone wishes to remain locked in the land of law for goat-herding nomads of 1st Century Palestine, so be it...but at least have the dignity to go all in on your fairy-tales...I respect the Amish for this. AT least they LIVE the way they SAY they believe. Anyone who is professing "Jesus" and living in air conditioning is a total hypocrite. Anyone telling of their wonderful "saved" afterlife and still taking up beds in a modern hospital to prolong life is a GIANT hypocrite - if life on this moist pebble is just the precursor to your assured ascension into "heaven", then get on with it and STOP using medicine to fuck up 'god's plan'. Take you disease and your death like a good Christian man or woman and vamoose already!

[keithbvadu2]

5. It's just the flu, right? Give 'em two Tylenol and send them back home.

It's just the flu, right? Give 'em two Tylenol and send them back home.

[Thunderbeast]

9. Send them to their church.

Let their charlatan pastor who told them to forego the jab empty their bedpan until they finally meet Jeebus.

[Moostache]

27. Exactly right!

If they believe the shit they spew, REALLY believe it...just start saying rosaries or get on your knees and pray away the 'Vid...just like they say its OK to pray away teh ghey too.

Fuck these imbeciles. Rational, secular society should start moving on without them.

[joetheman]

6. Should we give it time and they will soon be gone? ? nt

[Deuxcents]

8. And during this time

They will have infected how many innocent kids n vaxxed people? Time is past being up..16 months is plenty of time to get a damn shot n put on a mask. I’m on my last nerve with these deniers..and that includes my niece n nephew...I’m sorry to say but they got a piece of my mind, too.

[struggle4progress]

12. "I'm a liar. He's a liar. She's a liar. We're all liars! Wouldn't you like to be a liar too?"

[lindysalsagal]

13. Dopes should be fired for saying such dangerous things on TV. "Fair and balanced", my ass.

[lame54]

14. This terribly run city has a 75% fully vax rate

[Crowman2009]

15. Let call them for what they are: Domestic Terrorists!

[Initech]

21. Actually bioterrorists would probably be more appropriate!

Since they are playing with a biological weapon that's essentially a ticking time bomb.

[Crowman2009]

23. +1

[Roc2020]

16. Some people can't be saved

Unfortunately to avoid them no matter how hard it is avoid crowds, wear a mask. We are not going back to 2019. it's not happening.

[Initech]

17. They are literally protesting children's health care where I live.

Can't sink much lower than that. And I fear things will get worse before they get better.

[llashram]

18. in these people

willful ignorance is not bliss, it's premeditated murder No excuses from these wicked, evil human beings.

[calimary]

22. And the penalties should be severe.

[Jon King]

19. A fake vaccine card is a criminal offense.

It would be illegal to falsify an official CDC vaccine card. Not to mention civil liability.