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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:49 PM Aug 2021

Another former Trumper says Biden should not stuck with the deal hear boss made

Lisa Curtis, former Trump official, says US 'pulled the rug out from under the Afghans'

A former Trump administration official said Thursday evening that the Biden administration's decision to stick with the US' 2020 agreement with the Taliban is "why we are where we are now" and that the US has "literally pulled the rug out from under the Afghans."

"The Biden administration had an opportunity to withdraw from the agreement. They could have reevaluated it and renegotiated it and taken a different path on Afghanistan," Lisa Curtis, the former deputy assistant to former President Donald Trump and the former senior director for South and Central Asia on the National Security Council, told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "Cuomo Prime Time."

"But the Biden administration chose to stick with it. So, yeah. This is why we are where we are now. Now, it is also true that the pullout was extremely abrupt. We pulled out 16,000 contractors all at once. These are contractors that helped maintain the equipment for the Afghans. They helped keep air assets in the air. So, we literally pulled the rug out from under the Afghans. And we sort of played into the Taliban strategy," she continued.

The Trump administration's agreement between the Taliban and the US has come under fresh scrutiny in recent days after Afghanistan's civilian government in Kabul fell to Taliban fighters this weekend, almost two decades after they were driven from the city by US troops.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/lisa-curtis-former-trump-official-says-us-pulled-the-rug-out-from-under-the-afghans/ar-AANwdBD

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no_hypocrisy

(46,080 posts)
11. It was a treaty (so to speak).
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 02:00 PM
Aug 2021

You don't pull out of treaties made prior to your administration. (Except if your DJT and the Paris Treaty, of course . . . . )

reality1

(123 posts)
3. We pulled out 16,000 contractors all at once.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:52 PM
Aug 2021

If we didn't pull them then that's 16k more we'd need to get out now.

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
4. Keeping the military machines maintained doesn't matter if no one is willing to use them.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:56 PM
Aug 2021

Kabul fell without a shot being fired.

The Taliban, odious as they are, won the political war, not the shooting war.

reality1

(123 posts)
7. he didn't
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:03 PM
Aug 2021

he moved the withdrawal date to buy time for evacuations. If he would've reneged he would've needed to add more troops for a safer defense posture. He would've then reactivated direct attacks back on U.S. troops reigniting a full scale war again with our troops in the middle.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. Unfortunately, he still had to order 6,000 more troops in and may have to send more.
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:20 PM
Aug 2021

"White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan told reporters Tuesday that as administration officials watched the situation unfold, the decision was made to supplement the first contingent of some 3,000 troops with some 3,000 more. Sullivan's briefing was the first from the White House since Kabul, Afghanistan's capital, fell to the Taliban on Sunday."

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/17/1028519940/biden-kabul-national-security-adviser-sullivan-afghanistan-troops-taliban


Worse, here is what the National Security Advisor said yesterday:

Sullivan said the U.S. has the capacity to fly thousands of people from the Kabul airport to other countries each day. It's the responsibility of those fleeing to get to the airport themselves.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/top-adviser-biden-believes-us-can-evacuate-all-americans-by-end-of-august/ar-AANw68f

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
6. This doesn't make sense for many reasons
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:00 PM
Aug 2021

Trump's deal was to get out in May of 2021. Was Trump himself planning to ignore his own deal? As far as I'm seeing, Trump never handed off a plan for Afghanistan to Biden. It should have already been a work in progress- the visas for translators etc.

Based on his own deal with the Taliban, if Trump had won the election he would have had only 3 months to pull out. Three months would not have been enough time to evacuate without the same, it not more, of the chaos happening now.

To effectively pullout, I'm thinking the whole process should have been started well before Biden ever took office-like back when Trump first made the deal.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
10. The real question is "Why, after 20 years, could the Afghans not service their own equipment?"
Fri Aug 20, 2021, 01:59 PM
Aug 2021

Why did they need contractors to "keep their air assets in the air"? My uncle was an aircraft mechanic in the Air Force. It took him about a year of training to get certified to work on F-16's, T-38 trainers, and other jets. Then he got certified in another year or so, to work on C-130's and other transport aircraft. No need for contactors.

So, why then, was the Afghan Army, not taught how to work on their own equipment independently?

The Afghan Army was supposedly equipped and trained by our special forces instructors. Why then, would they have folded so quickly? Does the US not have the best training, best tactics, etc..? What am I missing here? The Afghans have been fighting along side the US for 20 years. In fact, it was reported that they were doing the majority of the fighting over the last 18 months, which accounts for the extremely low casualty rate for American soldiers in that time period. So, what gives?

I know that the Afghans are not unintelligent. They are certainly not cowards. Rachel Maddow had some insights in to why as does a You Tube commenter Beau of the 5th Column. Here is Beau's video.

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