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Biden and his team have clearer memories of the long litany of egregious and crippling missteps Americas leaders made during the first years of this century than do their critics
In world affairs, first impressions can be misleading. Soviet and American generals were photographed toasting the triumph of a great alliance in 1945 but in the blinking of an eye the Cold War was underway and we were great enemies. Crowds pressed against the U.S. embassy gates as Saigon fell and America lost a long, bloody war mere decades before Vietnam embraced a market economy and became a top tourist destination for Americans.
Statues are toppled, regimes collapse, city squares are thronged with tens of thousands of people demanding change, Mission Accomplished moments occur, and yet what follows is not what the pundits caught up in the drama and imagery of individual events predict. With time, members of the Biden administration anticipate, we will come to see the events of the past week very differently.
In fact, with perspective, we may well come to see their exit from Afghanistan as part of a major, generational, foreign policy reset. In fact, if events unfold consistent with the presidents vision, this moment will be seen as a watershed in a return to American global leadership after two decades of misguided, erratic, damaging foreign policy in the wake of 9/11.
[link:https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-insiders-our-afghanistan-exit-is-a-part-of-a-much-bigger-reset/body|]
Yorkie Mom
(16,420 posts)Biden seems to have done a reset with Putin as well giving him what he wants.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/26/biden-merkel-putin-nord-stream-2-gas-pipeline-germany-russia-ukraine-geopolitics-central-eastern-europe/
Obama tried the reset thing with Putin. How did that work out?
wnylib
(21,347 posts)and say that Biden gave Angela Merkel what she wanted for Germany.
stopdiggin
(11,254 posts)Yes, history and perspective may provide different answers than the ones seen today. Honesty and integrity is in fact a worthwhile national pursuit - and the U.S. has too often fallen cynically short on those fronts. That said - the world we live in today, is the 24 hour news cycle - mid-terms - and allies that are offended, while opponents are emboldened.
(and this is not at all to say that this is a crippling blow for 2022, or anything of the sort. just that this is the narrative that the WH has to be managing today.)
elleng
(130,773 posts)Seems we've missed doing that in recent decades. Serious disappointment here.
The U.S. ignored corruption within the Afghan government.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017675779
The latest on Afghanistan as Taliban take charge.
*Here's how General Clark explained it:
"The truth is that these people in Afghanistan have been through this before. This is a country that's been at war for 40 years. People signed up with the Afghan military to make money. They fired their weapons. Did they want to die in service of the Afghan military? Remember, Afghanistan is not a conventional nation. It's really tribal. And so they were earning a paycheck -- some of them didn't even get that paycheck -- but they did not sign up to fight to the death, for the most part."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017675309
TomCADem
(17,382 posts)What I find interesting is that even on DU, you find a lot of folks repeating right leaning, hawkish talking points because the news is saturated with pro-war views.
https://www.vox.com/2021/8/19/22629559/afghanistan-hawks-fox-news-biden-blame
But watch cable news and youd think some of the retired officials who helped orchestrate and continue the war had learned nothing.
Fox News watchers particularly have been inundated with the message this week that its all President Joe Bidens fault a message coming from veterans of the George W. Bush administration. Take Fox News contributor and former Bush speechwriter Marc Thiessen, who told host Dana Perino during a segment on Monday that the idea of pulling US troops out was shameful.
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed predicted this, Thiessen continued, referring to the alleged architect of the 9/11 attacks. He told his interrogator, after he was captured, he said, You Americans, what you dont understand is we dont have to defeat you militarily. We only have to wait long enough for you to defeat yourselves by quitting. He predicted this day would come. And on the 20th anniversary of the attack that he carried out, its come true because of Joe Biden.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)the Taliban President to be offer it to the US and it was refused.
[link:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5|]
[link:https://www.baltimoresun.com/bal-te.attacks15oct15-story.html|]
Warpy
(111,175 posts)has pretty much rotted out from under us, and I'm not just talking roads and bridges.
We the people have been systematically ripped off since the end of WWII, networks of public services from mass transit to well equipped parks for kids largely disappearing.