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Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 12:02 PM Aug 2021

British teachers encouraged to tackle incel movement in classroom

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2021/aug/20/teachers-given-flexibility-to-tackle-incel-culture-in-lessons

"Teachers can help counteract the rise of the “incel” movement and the dangers of misogyny with school lessons on respect for women and healthy relationships, ministers believe.

A government source said that Gavin Williamson, the education secretary, expects teachers to be able to tackle the risks from incel culture through the relationships, sex and health education (RSHE) curriculum within schools.

It follows concerns sparked by Britain’s worst mass shooting in over a decade, in which Jake Davison, 22, killed five people including his mother and a toddler in Plymouth last week.

After the attack, it emerged he had shown interest in the incel – or involuntary celibate – online culture fuelled by misogyny and abuse of women. Police are investigating whether this was a motive for the shootings. On Thursday, an inquest heard that he argued with his mother, for whom he expressed hatred online, before the killing spree."...(more)

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British teachers encouraged to tackle incel movement in classroom (Original Post) Tanuki Aug 2021 OP
I hope American teachers follow. nt chowder66 Aug 2021 #1
They certainly do in Florida but the teachers keep getting arrested nt cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #4
The 'incel movement' cannot be dealt with unless you can fix the actual problem Calculating Aug 2021 #2
Yes, dating culture has changed. haele Aug 2021 #3

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
2. The 'incel movement' cannot be dealt with unless you can fix the actual problem
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 02:07 PM
Aug 2021

Human beings have certain emotional and sexual NEEDS that are met by being with a partner. When you deprive people of these they handle it differently. Some people blame themselves and get depressed, while other people blame the world and get angry. Those who fall into the latter group are the ones who might snap someday and do something really bad.(serial killers, mass shooters, rape, etc).

The question I would ask is, WHY DO WE HAVE AN UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNT OF INCELS in our society? Obviously something has gone wrong. I see a lot of charts like this suggesting a 'slight' increase in yearly celibacy for women, but it's been skyrocketing in young men. It's like something has broken in the dating dynamics of society and a lot less men are having success.


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haele

(12,640 posts)
3. Yes, dating culture has changed.
Sat Aug 21, 2021, 03:05 PM
Aug 2021

However, dating culture in the past sucked for women in general who were constantly being pressured to have a guy in their lives or they weren't real women somehow.
All we needed was a guy, and if we couldn't get the good provider, we had to settle with any guy who wanted attention from us.
The problem with most "Incels" is three-fold. Their expectations are tend to be too high when it comes to "girls" they want to date(the hot chick with porn star sensibilities), their social media is infected with older cynical misogynists who end up pretty much being borderline pedophiles because no self-respecting grown woman would want anything to do with them, and finally, they really don't like themselves and expect having a girlfriend who will love them unconditionally will somehow change that.

There were Incels when I was growing up. But most of them dealt with it without punishing other people for their own personal frustrations.

Haele

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