Woman in line at the Trump rally today says she is hoping that he is about to reveal that he is...

[demmiblue]

Woman in line at the Trump rally today says she is hoping that he is about to reveal that he is still the president and “never left ... He’s the 19th president of the Republic ... It’s going to happen soon, because God is in this, and God wins!”

Link to tweet

[struggle4progress]

1. "Trump is really Rutherford B. Hayes! Take that, you libs!"

[Coventina]

73. !!

[joetheman]

84. Can we swap some Afghans for these people?

[ExciteBike66]

2. Do her math skills indicate that she has more than 10 fingers or fewer?

[bluedevil4]

4. Lol

[Thomas Hurt]

5. Trump is the 19th GOP President, the others don't exist I guess.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

19. I think they (the MAGA crowd and others) reset the clock with the beginning of the

New Deal. Don't quote me on that, because this is not my field.

[Maraya1969]

90. Yea, I read that Qanon says that after FDR the country became a corporation

(or some shit) and that's why there has only been 18 or 19 presidents and Trump is going to come back and return our country to a republic instead of a corporation.

It is so convoluted I'm confused trying to remember what I read. But it is all bullshit from Qanon.

I wish someone on the left would set up a Qanon and get these people to stop voting because the voting machines are radioactive or some other nonsense that they will believe.

[Retrograde]

77. They're counting Andrew Johnson as a Republican?

I suppose his positions are more like those of today's GOP than the Republican party of his time, but whatever. Or maybe they're counting Jefferson Davis. And why are they discounting earlier presidents like Jackson (Donnie's fave!), Tyler, and Polk, all vocal slaveholders and states' rights advocates?

I guess I just don't understand the finer points of QOP political philosophy

[Thomas Hurt]

82. just a bee ess dig like saying "Democrat Party"

[UnderThisLaw]

16. It works if you use base 36 math

Her species must have four hands with nine fingers each

[demmiblue]

18. Apparently, it is a Q thing:

QAnon’s latest conspiracy theory seems to borrow from the sovereign citizen movement, which believes that an act by Congress in 1871 did away with the U.S. government, and installed a corporation in its place, rendering every president and law passed afterward as illegitimate.

The timeline and logic are hard to follow, but QAnon followers predict Trump will be sworn in on March 4, because that was the start date of new U.S. Presidents until it was changed in 1933.

"They claim that the last legitimate president was Ulysses S. Grant and that now Donald Trump, instead of being the 45th president, will become the 19th president of the restored constitutional republic. January 20th was just a fake inauguration," said Jack Bratich, associate professor of journalism and media studies at Rutgers University, and author of "Conspiracy Panics: Political Rationality and Popular Culture."

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/qanon-followers-think-trump-will-take-office-march-4

[Midnight Writer]

36. Thanks.

[ShazzieB]

37. Thanks for this!

I was scratching my head over what she said, because 19th sounded so weirdly random. This is the background I needed.

I kind of wish the reporter had said something like "19th? I thought he was the 45th president," just to see what she would say. But I'm sure he was more interested in talking to as many people as possible than going off on tangents like that.

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

49. Someone ought to tell her even the Orange Asshole

considers himself the 45th president.

[hvn_nbr_2]

56. So, since Trump's only claims to power...

...are his own position in the illegitimate government and two elections held by the illegitimate government. And now, the divinely appointed and newly installed legitimate government will install the previous leader of the illegitimate government as the new legitimate leader of the new legitimate government. Wow!

[treestar]

87. Dummies

That makes Trump's term as 45 illegitimate too.

[Thomas Hurt]

3. Democrats and other Presidents don't count in christofascist delusions.

[Claire Oh Nette]

6. Constitutional Republic of 1776?

So, a constitutional republic right away. No Continental Congresses, no Articles of Confederation, straight to constitutional republic while still colonies!!!

Just, wow.

[pazzyanne]

50. Just a quick aside...

The first Republican president was Abraham Lincoln in 1865, so not sure why their reference was to 1776. Strange people.

http://www.us-presidents-list.com/Republican-US-Presidents-List/Republican-US-Presidents-List.html

[Tommymac]

81. 1776 is some strange Qanon code word or something

I really don't want to wade through da stupid to try and remember...

But I heard and read it here.

I think.

Maybe it was BarbieBoebert or MTraitorGirl...last December...oh my head hurts...aggghhhggdhhhhaaa

Sorry, I tried.

[pazzyanne]

86. Wise people stay away from Qanon!

Stay safe!

[kentuck]

7. My question remains:

Where is Merrick Garland? Charge his ass. Make him defend himself. Don't give him free rein to continue to tear down our democracy and to divide our country. Charge his ass with sedition and incitement to insurrection. It doesn't matter if he is found guilty or not. Just put him on notice. Or continue to do nothing. And hope for the best.

[JanMichael]

8. Merrick? Thinking and trying to be serious. Time time time. nt

[kentuck]

9. I don't believe we have the "time" we think we might have?

I think this has become an urgent matter. When criminals control the game, it doesn't end well.

[JanMichael]

11. I was being sarcastic. nt

[kentuck]

14. I thought so.

[Justice matters.]

10. The orange terrorist would fundraise (grift) his Qultists like crazy upon news of

unsealed indictments. They then would try to lie in order to try to infiltrate the Jury.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

20. "Charge his ass."

With what?

[kentuck]

24. With sedition or jaywalking. What does it matter?

Link to tweet

?lang=en

[mahatmakanejeeves]

25. It matters a lot.

I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say this, but in the United States, we do not put people in jail on the grounds that they said something that upset you.

I'll keep posting this until people finally figure out that I am not going to back down.



Source: https://blog.library.gsu.edu/2012/03/23/secularists-descend-upon-d-c-for-reason-rally/

Fri Jan 25, 2019: Johns Hopkins to buy Newseum building in D.C. as journalism museum plans to relocate

Full disclosure: I went to George Mason Elementary School. If you don't know who George Mason was, please take advantage of this wonderful opportunity to look him up.

[kentuck]

27. Why do people say you can indict a ham sandwich?

By the way, Donald Trump did not say "something" to offend me. He attacked my country. He incited a mob to attack our Capitol. You know it's true.

Is there enough evidence to take it to a Grand Jury. I think so. Perhaps you do not think so?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

28. "Is there enough evidence to take it to a Grand Jury. I think so. Perhaps you do not think so?"

No, I do not. Thank you for asking.

[kentuck]

31. What type of evidence are you looking for?

Do you think he is a danger to this country?

[mahatmakanejeeves]

33. I posted a transcript of his remarks at the Ellipse rally on January 6 seven months ago.

I can dig that post up, but it will take a while.

The rally on the Ellipse was 100 percent Constitutionally protected. People peaceably assembled to redress their grievances. This was within the concept of 1A all the way. No ifs, ands, or buts.

Smashing the doors and windows of the Capitol? Not so much.

Two different events. Two completely different things.

[kentuck]

34. He knew who he was inviting to his event.

And he knew what they were capable of doing.

It was planned and coordinated.

I am not convinced otherwise.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

38. With your beliefs and four dollars, you can get a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

But not much more than that.

[kentuck]

40. Do you think I don't know that?

And a chicken has a very small brain but it has the sense to get out of the rain.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

46. Which no doubt explains how come I got caught out in the rain while shopping this afternoon.

Here is a link to the transcript of Trump's remarks at the Ellipse at noon or thereabouts on January 6, 2021.

Sun Jan 10, 2021: Here is a first draft of a transcript of Trump's speech at the rally at the Ellipse.

FirstDraft - Speech: Donald Trump Holds a Political Rally on The Ellipse - January 6, 2021

Remember, this is just a first draft.

The word "Capitol" appears twice (other than as a tag or keyword):

00:15:52 - 00:16:17 (25 sec)

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing And only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

01:10:39 - 01:11:07 (28 sec)

So we're going to -- we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give -- the Democrats are hopeless, they never voted for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help.

The word "capital" incorrectly transcribed instead of "Capitol" appears once. The other appearances refer to "the nation's capital":

00:15:25 - 00:15:52 (27 sec)

Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down -- Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the capital and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

The character string "peace" appears once:

00:15:52 - 00:16:17 (25 sec)

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing And only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

The character string "march" appears once:

00:15:52 - 00:16:17 (25 sec)

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing And only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

The character string "walk" appears six times:

00:15:25 - 00:15:52 (27 sec)

Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down -- Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the capital and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

and

01:10:39 - 01:11:07 (28 sec)

So we're going to -- we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give -- the Democrats are hopeless, they never voted for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help.

and

01:11:07 - 01:11:30 (23 sec)

We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America. Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.

The character string "occup," which would cover "occupied," "occupying," "occupation," and so forth, does not appear at all.

[kentuck]

51. But the question is, is there a correlation between the speech and what happened afterwards?

My point is that it would be better to have him occupied in court, defending himself from ridiculous charges, than to tie ourselves in knots over the meaning of a few words in our Constitution, while our country is destroyed.

After all, if he was in the same position, he would take you to court in a New York second. He has done that all his life. He loves the courts.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

52. At what point does he tell his followers to smash through the doors and windows?

All I have is this first draft. If there's a final, authoritative transcript of his remarks at the Ellipse, please direct my attention to it. I will gladly put that transcript online at DU.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

55. "... it would be better to have him occupied in court, defending himself from ridiculous charges,"

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

[reACTIONary]

48. +10000

You got the extra order of magnitude.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

58. Just five orders of magnitude? Should be about fifteen or twenty, don'tcha think?

Apologies for the late reply. I've got "The Three Stooges" on in the kitchen.

Priorities...

It's the one where they're ironworkers in New York. This, but with Larry, Moe, and Curly:



Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunch_atop_a_Skyscraper

[reACTIONary]

80. I'd have to switch to "scientific notation" ...

.... +10⋀25 (took a bit to find that caret character on my tablet )

Enjoy the stooges - at least those stooges are entertaining. Unlike the stooges IRL.

[ShazzieB]

44. Of course it was planned and coordinated.

I know that, you know that, lots of people know that.

But (you knew there was a "but" coming, right? 😉 while it's all well and good to "know" something, acquiring and assembling the kind of admissible evidence that is necessary to prove that something in a court of law is a completely different kettle of fish. Please believe me when I say there is a HUGE difference between the two.

IANAL, just a long time avid reader of true crime and follower of a number of prominent court cases. An actual lawyer could, I am sure, explain this much better than I can.

[reACTIONary]

45. +5000.....

... i'm running out of 0's, but I'll keep giving you points!

[reACTIONary]

42. +1000! Keep saying it!

[marybourg]

67. Thank you for your fortitude.

I got tired of being attacked and gave up.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

69. I'm too dumb to give up.

Thanks for writing.

[marybourg]

70. You're the polar opposite of dumb.

[reACTIONary]

41. +100

[sop]

12. Republicans think stupid makes them strong.

[Girard442]

13. Hey Trumpie! Got enough hair on yer ass to git 'em to drink Kool-Aid out of a washtub?

[kentuck]

17. Maye they will have free horse paste for everyone with a MAGA hat tonight?

But, they will have to stand in line and sign a donation card, in order to be protected from Covid.

[OAITW r.2.0]

21. With bleach chasers!

Can you see Trump passing out the horse paste and bleach ala Jim Jones? Everyone of these idiots would be fighting to get their to the front of the line....

[Hugh_Lebowski]

15. If 'God is in this' and never loses, why did IQ45 lose in the first place?

Oh!

Is it one of those 'works in mysterious ways' kinda deals?

[KentuckyWoman]

22. Q people think the Congress killed USA in 1870

Which would make Trump 19th.

[secondwind]

23. Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

[ItsjustMe]

26. The Stupid Is Strong With This One

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

68. What a great meme!

"I'll take death for 500, Alex."

[Deuxcents]

29. Yes..

We call them stupid, but too many stupids vote.

[HipChick]

30. Poor God

He gets dragged into everything..not many masks in sight

[Duncanpup]

32. Qidiots it's a cult

[Stuart G]

35. When you got 330 million people in U.S.A....Some are very smart, some are very stupid...So, this

lady represents the ..."Very Stupid Contingent"

.............If one looks, there are all types in the U.S.A.........................................ALL TYPES I SAID.!!

.....smart
.....stupid
.....ignorant
.....brilliant
.....idiotic
.....incredible
.....lost
.....imbecilic
.....intelligent
.....enormous
.....small
.....reasonable
.....regular
.....complacent
.....wealthy
.....artistic
.....furious
.....dumbfounded
.....resilient
.....beyond description
.....lousy
.....kind
.....mean
.....reasonable
.....poor
.....tall
.....short
.....young
.....old
.....immigrant
.....long term types
.....athletic
.....genius
.....middle of road people
.....lack of education
.....PHD
.....southerners
.....northerners
.....easterners
.....westerners
.....YOU NAME THE REST...i AM RUNNING OUT OF STEAM.............................................

and if you got this far, thank you for reading all of this....

. .


(at least I tried to be a bit funny).....Not successful??...Ain't the first time, and it ain't the last time...

[kskiska]

39. What will they do when he's just not there anymore?

Maybe dead or incapacitated in some way.

[kentuck]

43. He will be a martyr...

Like Elvis.

[ShazzieB]

57. OMG, I'll bet you're right!

When TFG is dead and buried, there will probably be rumors of "sightings" for a while, like there were with Elvis.

It probably won't last as long, though. Elvis was only 42 when he died and would be 86 if he were alive today.
TFG is already 75, and he'll probably end up dying of "natural causes." It's harder to gin up viable conspiracy theories about the more or less expected passing of an old man than the untimely death of a 42 year old.

[MustLoveBeagles]

72. At least Elvis had talent

[treestar]

88. they won't believe he's dead

fake news!

[sheilahi]

47. so true

Well, like they say a tRump rally is like an explosion in a moron factory.

[Farmer-Rick]

53. Trump has been dead since he caught Covid-19

His robot clone replaced him in October 2020.

All these fools don't even know he's a fake......

One bad conspiracy theory deserves another.

[ad121rome]

54. Surveillance at Trump rally

I hope the FBI has set up surveillance cameras at the Trump rally, maybe they can catch a few more Jan 6 terrorists. Hope so. We deserve better than Trump folks, that’s why we can’t have nice things anymore. Scum bags.

[DenaliDemocrat]

59. Lol. Scooby Doo ending.

Biden pulls of a mask to reveal Trump

[IronLionZion]

60. Trump shall forever be known as the COVID-19th president

[paleotn]

61. The complete idiots have found their champion!

And he is them.

[dbonds]

62. This is in my town and they have the speakers so loud I can hear it 7 miles away.

At least I can't hear it as much when they are just speaking, but the music is loud.

[marybourg]

71. Call the Sherrif!

[Javaman]

63. As someone once said of god answering ones prayers

Sometime the answer is no

[ailsagirl]

64. Delusional to the nth degree!!!

[lonely bird]

65. Ok, a couple of things...

Paula White was full of shit. Haven’t seen the spirits from Africa yet.

Kenneth Copeland was full of shit.

God doesn’t give a damn about who gets elected here. When you mix religion and politics you get politics.

As for freedom of speech? Trump’s words were carefully spoken. His actions during his term are something else and unrelated to freedom of speech.

[Major Nikon]

66. No nut like a Q-nut

[peppertree]

74. Whut? Did someone dig up and zombify Rutherford Hayes?

The only way that dimwit would ever see "the 19th president."

[Jon King]

75. Sorry to the religious....but all religious stuff sounds the same to me.

What this lady says does not hit me as any more strange than any of the stuff I was taught in Sunday school. I guess I can't laugh at her too much when most religion's beliefs sound like utter hogwash to me.

[hadEnuf]

76. They must empty out behavioral health facilities for these rallies.

It's the only sensible explanation.

[barbtries]

78. oh, migawd.

that's insane.

[spanone]

89. wrong op

[GoCubsGo]

83. I was expecting that to be the crackpot who is at her 50th rally.

I saw a good chunk of this interview elsewhere earlier today. These people are so far detached from reality, that even the best cult deprogrammers probably couldn't bring them back.

[FakeNoose]

85. Is this about the Confederacy?

Holy shit! This woman is seriously delusional.

There is no Republic, other than the United States of America. The Confederacy ended in 1865, and it only ever had ONE president, Jefferson Davis who probably should have died in prison, if it weren't for a pardon and large bail posted by sympathetic followers.

Chump was never a southerner - he never supported the Confederacy. He was born and spent most of his life in New York, as a grifting, tax-avoiding real estate guy. He told lies for a living, and he still does it for fun.